questions about bottle cleaning

[jdelvo06]

I am brand new to home brewing and wondering about cleaning bottles. I ended up doing a little research and this is what i ended up doing:
I used used bottles and soaked them in soapy water and cleaned them with the bottle brush. I then soaked them overnight in the b-bright cleanser that came with my brewing kit to remove the labels. I then removed the labels and poured the bottles out, placed them in the dishwasher to rinse them out and they are currently drying in the dishwasher. There appears to still be a cloudy residue on most of the bottles.

Was using the soapy water to clean them a mistake?
Was soaking them overnight too long?
Did either of those things cause the cloudy residue and is the cloudy residue a problem?

Thanks in advance.

 

[NeoBrew]

How did you rinse them after the b-bright? Did you run them in the rinse only cycle of the dishwasher?

If you have hard water at your house, the dishwasher can tend to etch glass giving it a white appearance. With my water it tends to take repeated washes to start showing up.

I would tend to think you did not rinse the b-bright well enough. One trick to these type cleaners is that you need to rinse in water at least as hot as what you started soaking in. That will help the detergent rinse off more completely.

Another thing to note is that a dishwasher typically will not rinse the inside of the bottles very well. The chances of the jets getting up into each bottle fully is slim.

I use a bottle brush, regular dishwashing soap, and then rinse with a jet bottle nozzle on my utility sink. Then I spray the inside with starsan on a Vinator bottle sprayer before filling.

 

[jdelvo06]

Thanks for the help. I used the regular wash cycle with no soap.

 

[unionrdr]

I rinse out bottles to be de-labeled first to get the main bulk of the gunk out. Then soak them in PBW, 1 1/2 ounces per gallon of water by weight, not volume. My digital scale comes in handy for this as well. After the labels come off easily, the the glue either dissolved away or is very soft. On most bottles anyway. The ones with what looks like computer labels are downright tough to remove. Anyway, i use a dobie brand scrubber on the outside, bottle brush on the inside. Rinse'em off & onto the bottle tree to dry.
If they're bottles already used for my homebrew, I dump out the dregs, then fill up to the shoulder with tap water. Place the butt of my hand over the opening & shake it a bit to loosen what may be left on the bottom of the bottle. Then fill to the shoulder again. I haul bottles around in one of those 5 quart ice cream pails, as they hold 7-12oz bottles. After rinsing & filling, I take the first one filled to scrub out with the bottle brush. Rinse & quickly inspect each one for tell-tale spots. Most of the time, they're squeaky clean. Onto the bottle tree to drip dry before storage.

 

[jrgtr42]

Personally I don't bother taking the labels off the bottles I use. If they come off eventually, great, if not, I don't worry much. I also do use some with painted on labels like Stone.
My bottle routine is: as soon as I empty it, I rinse several times with hot water. I then leave upside down to dry. Once dry, they go into a standard case box.
On bottling day, I rinse again, checking to make sure there is no gunk inside. If it's a small amount, I will use the bottle brush. If a lot, it goes into the recycle pile.
THen I fill with Star San, leave in for a few minutes (I know 2 minutes is standard) then dump.
I put back in the case, upside down with a clean paper towel in the bottom.
Then to bottling, there is almost always still foam in the bottle. Fill and cap a half dozen at a time.
I have never had an issue using this routine.

 

[jdelvo06]

What exactly do you mean by "fill" with starsan? just rinsing the bottles out with the reccomended mixture?