Promash

[DeRoux's Broux]

tasty stuff! thanks Scott. i need to get into my ProMash and fart around more. you guy's have made me wonder??????

 

[El Pistolero]

Anyone ever use beer smith? Just wondering how it compares?
http://www.beersmith.com/

I've used Beersmith, and for extract or steeped grain I like it much better than Promash. As far as a comparison, they both have a lot of the same features, but their UI's are so much different that it's tough to compare the two...BeerSmith is a lot closer to Beer Recipator, and I think they're both a lot easier to use for beginning brewers.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

it's just cool we have these different tools to choose from now. sure makes brewing fun and as technical as you want to get. i still don't use all the features of my Pro Mash.
El P, how was the fishing?

 

[El Pistolero]

El P, how was the fishing?

The fishing was great but the catching was a little spotty. The weather was wonderful, not too many people on the water, but we stumbled into a bunch of sand trout and couldn't get away from them. They were huge sandies (18 - 20"), and they'll make for a nice fish fry today, but we just couldn't find the real fish. Still, it was a wonderful day.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

And is there a way to get promash to calculate and estimated FG based on the Yeast you are using's apparent attenuation rate?

Over all though I like this program. [edit: man my typing is getting bad!]

Denny, when you brew, do a brewing session for the recipe your doing. enter in your OG, and put at what temp the wort was checked. it will make the correction for you and give you an estimated FG.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

no birds were working the water for you?
nothing wrong w/ sandies. like you said, good fry'n!

 

[El Pistolero]

No gulls working at all...the warm weather is keeping the shrimp from moving much right now. There were lots of liars out, but it was the sitting pelicans that always seemed to be right on top of the sandie schools...almost every fish we caught had a big pelican bite in it's back.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

we're seeing more and more brown pelicans. 3-4 years ago, you'd hardly ever see one.

i'm sure you caught a buzz ????

 

[justbrewit]

how'd we get from promash to birds????? LOL

 

[El Pistolero]

how'd we get from promash to birds????? LOL

It's a very natural progression...really it is.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Denny, when you brew, do a brewing session for the recipe your doing. enter in your OG, and put at what temp the wort was checked. it will make the correction for you and give you an estimated FG.

Thanks. I didn't know that. I'll give it a try.

Sitting here wondering if this damn beer is ever going to finish carbonating and trying not to drink the barlywine I've put away (the rest of) for long term storage.

Moral learned: Don't EVER stop home brewing. It will just throw you out of sync!

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

sorry El P and i hijacked the thread. fishing thing!

denny, did the #'s work out?

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

What tab in the session does it do the est fg. I see fields for actual OG and FG and est OG but not est FG.

Tounge tied yet?

I never played around with the session part before. I kept putting it off because I was going to do the tutorial, but then I started playing around with the recipe design section and forgot what the sessions were even about!

I think I'll try out the tutorial now...finally.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

it's under the fermentation tab.

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

Unless I'm missing it somewhere it doesn't actually have a field for 'Estimated FG', but if you click on the 'Fermentation' button it will pre-populate the observed FG with an estimate based on the yeast you've selected. You can go back later and write over it when you actually measure your FG.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

it estimated mine because i never put in the FG, because it's not kegged yet. it doesn't say "estimated FG" but it does give a FG, like you said, based on your recipe and ingredients, ferm time, temps, etc.

give the ABV and ABW also.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

OK, Thanks. I saw that but wasn't sure if it just an arbitrary value or if it was actually calculated. It was giving me a FG of 1.012 and I thought it should be about 1.015 using Windsor yeast. (OG of 1.063)

Do you find you hit the Est FG?

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

usually i do!

 

[gibfried]

Thanx fellas,

Just did my first all-grain batch using promash, and I was very impressed. The strike temps were very accurate, and my final gravity turned out to be right on. 70% efficiency - not bad..not bad...

We have good steady bubbles this morning!

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

sounds like all went well for the 1st AG. no good stories to confess????? :~)

 

[gibfried]

sounds like all went well for the 1st AG. no good stories to confess????? :~)

Maybe...

My second all grain batch I decided to store (for fermentation) out in the garage. I shoved a blowoff tube down the carboy's throat that led down to a gallon ice cream bucket of sanitizer. As the wort cooled from 75f to about 45 (over a couple of cold spells) the volume of the wort shrank. Thus a vaccuum decided to show up in my blowoff tube sucking up a good deal of the nasty sanitizer. Mama's flowers got drunk that day.

Upset? Nope. The best excuse yet to make more beer.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

that's the attitude! eh, we all do goofy stuff sometimes. that's how we learn. is that Monkey Paw from Papazian's book?

 

[gibfried]

that's the attitude! eh, we all do goofy stuff sometimes. that's how we learn. is that Monkey Paw from Papazian's book?

Yes sir! Mama's mums are happy from it now.

 

[oregonNate]

I just ordered ProMash...been using the evaluation version to do calculations and I'm tired of having to type everything back in every time!

I wish there was a free, web-based application that did all of this, but that would be a pain to develop. (I'm a web developer by profession.)

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

www.beertools.com but, it's limited on what you can do. not near as good as ProMash.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

i gotta bitch about ProMash. i got my stuff today to brew a ESB tomorrow and decided to use the White Labs Platinum Whitbread yeast strain. well, it's not listed on ProMash! did i over look something where i can add it myself to the recipe?????

 

[El Pistolero]

I wish there was a free, web-based application that did all of this, but that would be a pain to develop. (I'm a web developer by profession.)

The Beer Recipator does a lot of that stuff...not as much as promash, but it's web based and free.

We're all web developers here...and frustrated musicians.

 

[ScottT]

i gotta bitch about ProMash. i got my stuff today to brew a ESB tomorrow and decided to use the White Labs Platinum Whitbread yeast strain. well, it's not listed on ProMash! did i over look something where i can add it myself to the recipe?????

Yes, you can add anything yourself. Just look at the botom of the first window that pops up when you first open promash. Those icons at the bottom are your data base files. Just click on one of those (which ever the other yeasts are stored in) and then click new. A form to fill out will pop up and you can add the details of the item.

I'm at work right now sorry I can't give a more detailed descripton.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Yeah, you can add to the database. What would be nice for the next version is the ability to do that right from the recipe screen. A simple New option with a the database pooping up would be pretty simple for them tp add.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

i figured it might be in the brew session area, was going to toil with it tomorrow.

thanks guys, i mess around with it tonight.