Posting Recipes

[Glibbidy]

I am still a firm believer that posting recipes should be left to onlythse thathave been tried ad true by the OP.
I'm disappointed that clone recipes like this one are getting posted without being tested.

I think this stuff should be posted in the recipes/ingredients forum, and not in the recipe database.

 

[blacklab]

I think most of us that have been around for a bit only post recipes that have been brewed and were successful. That's why I try to include a picture of the final product. Obviously the picture does nothing for knowing the taste of the beer, but at least you can get some small idea of how it turned out.

 

[TeleTwanger]

I don't really care about tried and true vs noob recipes. I usually look at them for ideas/guidelines. It would be nice to know the source though like in The Kaiser's Alt recipe his source was a trad German text book and an actual Alt brewery brewer, now that's a source!

I've brewed a tried and true ESB clone right out of Zymurgy that was crap, it had like 2 lbs of crystal and was coyingly sweet and almost undrinkable. So much for tried and true lol. I learned my lesson with that beer.(and how much crystal is potable in a beer ie less than 2 lbs!)

 

[wildwest450]

I would be scared to death to post a recipe that I haven't brewed. Those of us who who are still new to formulating recipes need recipes we can rely on to make a good beer. I recently posted my first recipe, only because it turned out so damn (i've made it twice) good i just had to share.

 

[olllllo]

IMO putting a recipe in the db is like sending your final draft off to be published.
If you anticipate further editing (i.e. actual brewing notes) use the recipe area instead.

By posting the recipe in the database, you are taking ownership of it, meaning you should be able to answer questions about it, recommend substitutions, provide guidance on the mash, etc.

If you don't have answers to these questions then the recipe area is a better use of the forum.

 

[FSR402]

I got burned once by a recipe that ws posted before it was tested.

So I eneded up with 10 gallons of crap beer. I choked down about 7 gallons of if and then just pulled the keg to put something good in that spot. I'll let it sit until I have an open tap or if I need a keg I'll dump it.

 

[KingBrianI]

I got burned once by a recipe that ws posted before it was tested.

So I eneded up with 10 gallons of crap beer. I choked down about 7 gallons of if and then just pulled the keg to put something good in that spot. I'll let it sit until I have an open tap or if I need a keg I'll dump it.

This is why I think we should post both our good, and bad, experiences with the recipes under them. If a recipe sucks, people need to know. The recipe forum is no place to avoid stepping on toes. If the person put a recipe up there that was untested or just plain bad, then we should have a way to watch out for it.

 

[Chriso]

I'm curious to know which one, FSR.

+1 to posting experiences after brewing a recipe out of the DB. I try to do it whenever I borrow a recipe.

 

[Ecnerwal]

Posting recipes either about to be done or in progress is appropriate here, looking for feedback, etc. Also appropriate for I did this, and that happened, and what should I change? stuff that's done, but not great.

Database should only be done and worth sharing.

Of course, you should also filter by personal taste - some will find X amount of ingredient Y too much, others just right, and others not enough. So it's always good to compare to things you actually like, and question things that look out of line.

As an example, TeleTwanger probably would not like my recipes (none in database thus far) with 2-4 lbs of chocolate malt, if he find 2 lbs of crystal unpalatable - on the other hand, 2 lbs of crystal would very likely be OK by me, but I would not even be looking at an ESB in the first place (and it sounds dubious for an ESB, frankly, but might make a good brown ale, IMO).

 

[FSR402]

I'm curious to know which one, FSR.

+1 to posting experiences after brewing a recipe out of the DB. I try to do it whenever I borrow a recipe.

It was this one

 

[Chriso]

Aha, I recognize that one, thx.

 

[blacklab]

It was this one

Cheesefood strikes again!

I wish people would use the rating system more, or leave more comments if they've brewed a recipe. Right now there are 1 or 2 recipes at the top of each section with 4 stars and none of the others are even rated.

 

[KingBrianI]

It was this one

oh man, cumin in beer? no wonder it's unpalatable!

 

[FSR402]

oh man, cumin in beer? no wonder it's unpalatable!

yeah I was not going to put it in right up to the time I did. Oh well...

 

[FSR402]

Cheesefood strikes again!

I wish people would use the rating system more, or leave more comments if they've brewed a recipe. Right now there are 1 or 2 recipes at the top of each section with 4 stars and none of the others are even rated.

That rating thing is new

 

[Yooper]

The rating (with the stars) is not new- it's been here at least as long as I have!

You know, it would be very helpful to others if we posted our experiences with recipes that may or may not have worked. I wouldn't be very happy to make a recipe that looked good to me, and find out that 10 people HATED it but were too nice to post any criticism.

In the case of the example shown, there would be no need to say much more than, "This beer definitely didn't turn out for me. I think the cumin was a bad idea and won't be making it again. I don't recommend this recipe." I think that if we're willing to post a recipe, we must be willing to accept some constructive criticism. Just like the rest of the forum, though, no personal attacks would be permitted. I bring that up because I also made a recipe that didn't turn out. I wanted later to say, "WTF is the matter with you????? I was a noob and you let me make this!"

 

[Chriso]

I'll be the first to fess up, I've never really used the star-based rating system. I have my view set to 40 posts per page, so it's a LOT of scrolling up to get to it. I don't know how much phpBB allows customization of the bottom of a page, but I'd LOVE some redundant links -or- a link To The Top or something.... It'd encourage me to use those features much more....

+1 to posting back even if a recipe is not good. I can't think of anyone who would get upset about a post like Yooper described, in which you simply say that "This recipe did not work out well for me and I don't recommend it" because you're not insulting the person, you're just being honest and sharing your experience.

I'll try to use the stars more often.

 

[KingBrianI]

I think it's a good idea to not only post that you didn't like the recipe but also why. As in, "The cumin made the beer taste like chili," or some such. That way it's not like getting a "C" on a paper and not being told why. It's better to know that it was because the paper was supposed to be on moirés and you wrote about eels.

 

[BierMuncher]

It was this one

Any Hoegaarden clone that needs to age for 6 months before it's drinkable...well...that should tell you something.

I'm not really big into posting recipes so...meh...

 

[FSR402]

Any Hoegaarden clone that needs to age for 6 months before it's drinkable...well...that should tell you something.

I'm not really big into posting recipes so...meh...

Yeah that was posted in a different thread not his recipe thread. I found that After I brewed it.

As for the stars, I have never seen that button before so I figured it was new. In fact it took me a few minutes to find it today. lol

I'll post in the recipe thread later tonight, I'm about to walk out the door.

 

[Chriso]

I'm not really big into posting recipes so...meh...

And I'm not really all that into drinking beer.