1. It's not sanitary
2. You want to oxygenate the wort, not carbon dioxideate (word?) it.
Dan said:I don't have the exact same setup but same air sucking venturi effect. Works great!
Weizenheimer said:I drop it through a strainer, pitch my yeast and then shake the piss out of it.
Any reason I should pitch the yeast after I shake it vs. pitch and then shake? It is a pain if the arse getting those lids on and off the ale pails.
Bobby_M said:I'm just curious why people think that a head of foam on top of wort is an indication of dissolved oxygen.
Pure O2
Brewskii said:If you are referring to the wisking method I use, it really is about maximizing the amount of ambient air mixed in the liquid.
So called "micro- bubbles" are taken up as quickly or quicker by yeast cells and immediately metabolized. Whether I'm achieving this or not is subjective but I can tell you it makes a big difference in my fermentations vs shakin the carboy.
Kettle on the stove...fermenter on the floor...open the spigot and let it fall!![]()
I'm just curious why people think that a head of foam on top of wort is an indication of dissolved oxygen.
I'm just curious as to why you don't enlighten us instead of being smug about it.
I perceive the six inches of foam on top of my carboy following a pass through my funnel strainer as a good indicator that the wort was very well "splashed around" on the way in. I tend to liken it to the aerator on my kitchen sink which introduces air to the water while running it through a screen that is remarkably similar to the strainer on my funnel.
i use pure o2- i gto a general feel for how much volume per minute my reg is putting out using gas displacement in a bottle filled with liquid held in a vacuum upside down in sink full of water- so i am saying from what i learned from this little science project (many thanks to ajdelange- getting me the hands on info over the hum of the equations) that i can very quickly produce a HUGE "head" of foam in my fermenter just by blasting my reg, or by not even using a stone at all. BUT this, in itself, doesn't mean my ppms of o2 for the solution are where i want them to be. If i run at the right rate, for the right amount of time, the foam on the top of the wort is not all that buxom. So i guess the moral is, the appearance of the top of your wort does not necessarily indicate the quantity of o2 in it.
oh - you don't want to buy anything from me. i hid pubic hairs in all the merchandise.See, now I am enlightened and if you were a vendor, I would consider shopping at your place of business.
Bobby_M said:Sorry if I came across as smug. There are a lot of different methods that will achieve enough dissolved oxygen and many of the ones listed here are fine. I was simply referring to statements about how much foam head is generated as being an indication of "job well done". My point, more specifically, is that you can generate a bunch of foam on the top of wort without getting anywhere near the 8ppm DO we're looking for. It would be better to say something like "I shook the hell out of my carboy and I'm pretty confident that it's well aerated".....and leave off the "because there's a huge frothy head on it". That's all.
I'm just curious why people think that a head of foam on top of wort is an indication of dissolved oxygen.
I'm just curious as to why you don't enlighten us instead of being smug about it.
I don't do it and haven't suffered for it, with both Danstar and Fermentis. I'd probably give a big wort a shot, just in an abundance of caution.
From the Fermentis site's HB FAQ's:
8/ Does the wort need Oxygenation / aeration?
As the yeast is grown aerobically, the yeast is less sensitive on first pitch. Aeration is recommended to ensure full mixing of the wort and yeast.
So it's not aeration for oxygen's sake they're recommending, it's to ensure mixing.