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Grod1

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So now i have decided to add another sour on my to do list. Its going to be pretty dam different then anything i have done. i have developed the idea over the course of the day.i am going to make a Sake plum wine hybrid then sour it up with mixed fermentation.
for the plums im not sure if i want to go the campden tablet rout or the pasteurization rout. I would prefer to pasteurize but i dont think wine people ever do this.

7 gallons
ABV 5.61%/IBU 9.51/SRM 6.04
FERMENTABLES:
5 lb - American - Pale 2-Row
5 lb - American - Rye
7 lb - Plum
2 lb - Rice Syrup Solids
8 oz - American - Aromatic Malt
3 oz - German - CaraFoam
3 oz - United Kingdom - Crystal Rye

HOPS:
1 oz - Amarillo 10 min, IBU: 8.84
1 oz - Styrian Goldings, 1 min, IBU: 0.67

YEAST:
Wyeast - Sweet Mead 4184 primary and some bootleg biology yeast potentially with additional plums after a few days.


please anyone feel free to comment tell me what you think it will be like or what you would do different.
 
so i got some Shanghai Yeast Balls – Chinese Rice Wine Starter it has yeast lacto and other bacteria in them. What do you guys think about these in primary?
I think i might make some traditional rice wine and blend it. Either in primary or at bottling.
I would really love it if anyone had any input. I feel like im about to do something crazy and im in the dark. Even if this is not your cup of tea how do you think you would approach it?
 
So0o0o i guess i will just continue to talk to myself as i mull the idea over. I have decided to make this a goal. so this is going to require a good deal of time and money.The new plan is to buy a new barrel and secondary plum wine in it.It takes 6 months for the plum wine so that will give me time to make 3 different sake inspired sour recipes. After the 6 months i will re brew the recipe that i like best and primary in the barrel.
i would enjoy talking to anyone about theoretical recipes /techniques/ ingredients
 
going to brew this Saturday...In a few months i will share some results for the people who helped out.
 
brewed this yesterday, its fermenting now. the recipe worked better then i imagined.It came out a nice blond and the plum skins turned the whole thing a perfect plum color.But i got no rice flavor, i guess i need to add a large % of minute rice to the mash.
i will do 2 more variations before deciding the one that will get the plum wine barrel.
anyways thanks to all that helped above its great to have people to talk about beer with!
 
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