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timgman

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Can I use a second ale pail for a secondary ior does one always use glass. I have a 5 gal glass carboy but It seems like a PITA to deal with.. I want to step it up a notch and get more clear beers but the glass think seems like a PITA...
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If you're not going to secondary for more than a few weeks there is no problem at all. Really you can just leave your beer in primary for a month and then bottle/keg, you don't need to secondary most of the time. Look into better bottles if you want to keep the carboy concept but don't want the hassle of the glass.
 
Well, plastic for clearing and aging isn't the best idea, due to the huge amount of headspace. The carboy has a very narrow opening, and works great for clearing.

I don't know why it would be a huge PITA though. It would be the same as a bucket, except a bit smaller. Maybe dryhopping would be a bit more difficult, but I don't seem to have any problem. Glass is actually easier to sanitize, I think. You can see any crud, and then see that the entire surface is covered with sanitizer.
 
Actually with a carboy it's not that much more difficult than using anything else...you use the same autosiphon whether you are transferring it to a bucket or a carboy...

I just skipped the secondary step on my last batch and just left in the primary for a couple extra weeks after fermentation was complete...
 
The PITA part is the cleaning and possibility of a break.. I'm quite accident prone... maybe I can get someone over at the classifieds section to swap a second pail for my 5 gal glass carboy.. and just do 1 steps...
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I wouldn't give up on it. Especially if you want to do a wine someday or a "bigger" beer. I am a 135 pound klutz, and have never had a problem. Eventually, I'm going to get rid of all the plastic buckets I have and switch to glass. Glass is super easy to clean and santize- buckets will scratch and hide "nasties" in the scratches. Of course, it's up to you- but almost every brewer would love to give you a bucket for a carboy!
 
One-and-a-half words for you: OxyClean. Man, I don't know how I did without it. A scoop of OxyClean, fill the thing up with water, and let it sit for an hour.

Having said that, I'm slowly switching over to Better Bottles, but still using OxyClean.
 
timgman said:
The PITA part is the cleaning and possibility of a break.. I'm quite accident prone... maybe I can get someone over at the classifieds section to swap a second pail for my 5 gal glass carboy.. and just do 1 steps...
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Get a Better bottle to replace the glass carboy, quite a few of us have switched to them to replace the glass....And regardless of glass or betterbottle, Oxyclean make cleaning it a breeze....I haven't had any gunk in a carboy that enough oxyclean and hot/warm water could clean out.
 

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