Pittsburgh

[kbuzz1]

So kbuzz, how 'bout dem Buccos?

Yeah...**** that Liriano trade...was there ever an explanation for that ****?

I was okay with everything overall until I heard that McGuire was thrown into the Liriano trade. I was a little perturbed that they needed to give up a top ten prospect to unload him, but is what it is I guess....but TWO top ten prospects?? Just doesn't make any sense. Why was it that necessary to get rid of Liriano that you trade away two good prospects?

 

[preluderl]

Yeah...**** that Liriano trade...was there ever an explanation for that ****?

I was okay with everything overall until I heard that McGuire was thrown into the Liriano trade. I was a little perturbed that they needed to give up a top ten prospect to unload him, but it was it is I guess....but TWO top ten prospects?? Just doesn't make any sense. Why was it that necessary to get rid of Liriano that you trade away two good prospects?

Come on, bub. You know the answer.

 

[kbuzz1]

Bucco gone' Bucco. Did just enough to say they tried, but not enough to really, actually try.

I can't even say that this year. Normally I defend their frugality because I understand why they do it. And this year I would have made even more exceptions because they are playing like crap...but man, I just don't get why they did it. Why not just keep Liriano and your prospects? Not like you improved dramatically over the output he was giving you...there has to be some other factor we're unaware of. Like that they felt Liriano was becoming bad in the clubhouse or something like that.

Come on, bub. You know the answer.

It has to be more than just a salary dump. You don't use two talented prospects to dump a single salary.

 

[preluderl]

It has to be more than just a salary dump. You don't use two talented prospects to dump a single salary.

You do if your owner doesn't really care all that much about winning.

 

[beerman6686]

I can't even say that this year. Normally I defend their frugality because I understand why they do it. And this year I would have made even more exceptions because they are playing like crap...but man, I just don't get why they did it. Why not just keep Liriano and your prospects? Not like you improved dramatically over the output he was giving you...there has to be some other factor we're unaware of. Like that they felt Liriano was becoming bad in the clubhouse or something like that.



It has to be more than just a salary dump. You don't use two talented prospects to dump a single salary.

Go Nutting's wallet! Go Nutting's wallet!

 

[kbuzz1]

I can't get into the Nutting thing. He's not a free spender, sure...but he's also not just trying to simply pocket cash. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Regardless of anyone's thoughts on Nutting's motivation, the Liriano trade, to me, is an aberration from the recent norm in that even as a salary dump it makes no sense.

 

[preluderl]

They always do just enough to keep the fan base on the hook to keep buying tickets without ever truly trying to win on a larger level. I don't think they'll ever win the World Series, and probably not the NL Central while he owns the club.

Just my opinion as a non-Buccos fan. I wish em' the best, but they're in an extremely tough division to win when winning isn't your primary concern.

 

[beerman6686]

I can't get into the Nutting thing. He's not a free spender, sure...but he's also not just trying to simply pocket cash. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Regardless of anyone's thoughts on Nutting's motivation, the Liriano trade, to me, is an aberration from the recent norm in that even as a salary dump it makes no sense.

It's all global warming's fault. He needs as much money as he can get now cuz soon there won't be no more snow at 7 springs (said in the most yinzerish voice possible).

 

[Grodd87]

Yeah...**** that Liriano trade...was there ever an explanation for that ****?

I was okay with everything overall until I heard that McGuire was thrown into the Liriano trade. I was a little perturbed that they needed to give up a top ten prospect to unload him, but is what it is I guess....but TWO top ten prospects?? Just doesn't make any sense. Why was it that necessary to get rid of Liriano that you trade away two good prospects?

Could they not of put that kids a package with one more for Moore? How about throw meadows into that package for sale r archer wtf is wrong with this organization!

 

[preluderl]

It would have taken a LOT more than those two plus Meadows to get Archer or Sale.

 

[jeevo]

I can't even say that this year. Normally I defend their frugality because I understand why they do it. And this year I would have made even more exceptions because they are playing like crap...but man, I just don't get why they did it. Why not just keep Liriano and your prospects? Not like you improved dramatically over the output he was giving you...there has to be some other factor we're unaware of. Like that they felt Liriano was becoming bad in the clubhouse or something like that.

Like clockwork, Huntington gave the usual "We plan on using the money saved from the the dumped salaries towards acquiring and extending next season's assets".

 

[MooseLang]

Like clockwork, Huntington gave the usual "We plan on using the money saved from the the dumped salaries towards acquiring and extending next season's assets".

Just like they did when Happ signed in Toronto and Burnett retired. They used those savings to invest in this current club...

 

[Dogleg1]

At least the Steelers started practice so we'll have something to talk about. Don't see the rest of the season going well for the Buccos unfortunately.

 

[dtx00]

Yeah...**** that Liriano trade...was there ever an explanation for that ****?

I was okay with everything overall until I heard that McGuire was thrown into the Liriano trade. I was a little perturbed that they needed to give up a top ten prospect to unload him, but is what it is I guess....but TWO top ten prospects?? Just doesn't make any sense. Why was it that necessary to get rid of Liriano that you trade away two good prospects?

So you're okay with them essentially trading Neil Walker for someone who they already had on their roster.

 

[kbuzz1]

So you're okay with them essentially trading Neil Walker for someone who they already had on their roster.

No, not okay with it...but understand the need to dump Niese at least. It was a mistake sure...but do you continue on in denial? Or correct it? All I'm saying is that I understand what they're doing (other than the Liriano deal). I wasn't thrilled with the Niese deal back then, but was willing to wait it out. Didn't work out obviously. So what are you gonna do...continue to carry that salary in your bullpen? No...you dump it.

 

[thebouch01]

Could they not of put that kids a package with one more for Moore? How about throw meadows into that package for sale r archer wtf is wrong with this organization!

Because they will never commit that high a % of payroll to one player (Sale).

 

[McMatt7]

Finished off all the Grats and Ba Grats last night while watching this dope-ass documentary

Horrible movie/beer pairing really but straight up **** it who cares i don't get off my back.

Any of you Cockemons excited for the Olympics? I am. Working on event based beer pairings as we speak.

 

[preluderl]

For some reason I've always found the winter games to be more enjoyable.

 

[jeevo]

Tonya Harding hiring a hitman to take out Nancy Kerrigan's knees was one of the most 90's things ever. I haven't watched the Olympics since then, and it's still the first thing I think of when I hear people talking about the Olympics.

 

[chefduff2]

Tonya Harding hiring a hitman to take out Nancy Kerrigan's knees was one of the most 90's things ever. I haven't watched the Olympics since then, and it's still the first thing I think of when I hear people talking about the Olympics.

Oddly, I've met that dude. He worked as head of security at my brothers bar in CA. Fast cash didn't work out well for him.
EDIT: I'm not supposed to talk about it, but screw him.

 

[McMatt7]

For some reason I've always found the winter games to be more enjoyable.

Track and Field is my jam, got supreme love for skiing too but dem lady pole vaulters get my bowels in an uproar if you know what i'm saying.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Sorry to derail the conversation, but jagoffbrewer posted a pic of a saison he's brewing with whole ears of corn, which sounds kind of awesome.

 

[PSUMike]

For some reason I've always found the winter games to be more enjoyable.

Same here. Outside of wrestling (moreso freestyle than greco), I probably won't watch any of it.

 

[shuggy1]

Sorry to derail the conversation, but jagoffbrewer posted a pic of a saison he's brewing with whole ears of corn, which sounds kind of awesome.

Mashing with whole ears of corn sounds ******* stupid.

 

[epicureIO]

Mashing with whole ears of corn sounds ******* stupid.

I agree that it sounds odd. You can brew with maize, though, right?

 

[shuggy1]

I agree that it sounds odd. You can brew with maize, though, right?

You can but throwing the whole ear in the mash wouldn't provide much of anything useful along with taking up a hell of a lot of space. Might as well not crush the grains either.

 

[rodosman]

Regarding Rusty Gold brewery, their opening date is being pushed back to September sometime. I know a couple of the construction guys working there now.
Also, I'm on "the list" for a sample tasting event pre-opening to public with a +1 if anyone is interested.

 

[brother rebus]

Tonya Harding hiring a hitman to take out Nancy Kerrigan's knees was one of the most 90's things ever. I haven't watched the Olympics since then, and it's still the first thing I think of when I hear people talking about the Olympics.

Nancy Kerrigan Arena was my home ice rink for years growing up
she lejend

 

[jagoffbrewer1]

Sorry to derail the conversation, but jagoffbrewer posted a pic of a saison he's brewing with whole ears of corn, which sounds kind of awesome.

Thanks man. I figure because all of our beers taste of rotting taint adding off flavors on purpose might help! The thought behind the beer is when farm workers from Wallonia first immigrated to the US and made beer they may have been using corn so I tried to replicate what they might have done. I didn't add whole ears, I cut the kernels from the cob and added some husks. The corn was very sweet because of the Summer we've had and gave 6 points to the gravity even though it was only roughly 10lbs. I also used 10% flaked maize. I added more kernels, cobs, and husks to the whirlpool and knocked out.

This beer will basically be fermented corn soup! MMMMMMmmmmmmMMMMMM

GET ******* JACKED TO DRINK MY GARBAGE CORN BEER!

 

[MooseLang]

Thanks man. I figure because all of our beers taste of rotting taint adding off flavors on purpose might help! The thought behind the beer is when farm workers from Wallonia first immigrated to the US and made beer they may have been using corn so I tried to replicate what they might have done. I didn't add whole ears, I cut the kernels from the cob and added some husks. The corn was very sweet because of the Summer we've had and gave 6 points to the gravity even though it was only roughly 10lbs. I also used 10% flaked maize. I added more kernels, cobs, and husks to the whirlpool and knocked out.

This beer will basically be fermented corn soup! MMMMMMmmmmmmMMMMMM

GET ******* JACKED TO DRINK MY GARBAGE CORN BEER!

Stillwater Classique is possibly the beer I drink the most, and I'm pretty sure it's just the old National Premium malt bill (six row, rice, corn) with Saison yeast. I've attempted to clone it twice, with varying results.

Tl;dr Corn all the Saison