Pittsburgh

[OneDropSoup]

Really interested to see what he does without all of the restraints he had at Church.

Per this article, it doesn't sound like the owner is looking to go crazy, at least not right away. Stout, lager, brown or amber, IPA, blonde, rotating seasonal. http://www.observer-reporter.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20151202/NEWS01/151209894/1264

 

[PSUMike]

Per this article, it doesn't sound like the owner is looking to go crazy, at least not right away. Stout, lager, brown or amber, IPA, blonde, rotating seasonal. http://www.observer-reporter.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20151202/NEWS01/151209894/1264

Nothing wrong with that. Dial in the staples before venturing out into the one-offs. The only thing they are missing, imo, is something like a saison or a belgian pale. Aside from that, they have the popular staple styles covered.

 

[docreight1]

the people who commented on that article should try traveling outside of Washington county once in awhile...

 

[dadavat]

Nothing wrong with that. Dial in the staples before venturing out into the one-offs. The only thing they are missing, imo, is something like a saison or a belgian pale. Aside from that, they have the popular staple styles covered.

I totally disagree. That list sound boring as hell. This isn't 1995.

 

[Tedwarhc]

Shameless self promotion:

I have started a new position with Steel City Beer Wholesalers and will be working with the accounts and ordering and whatever else. We are a small operation as you may already know. If you are out and about at your favorite bar, restaurant or distributer and don't see any of our brands (Pizza Boy, Knee Deep, Evil Twin, Off Color, Stillwater, Against the Grain), let me know. Ill post up events and special tapings that are planned here if you don't mind. Many of you know me either personally or from beer events, so don't hesitate to message me, post here or just flame me. Cheers.

 

[bren4220]

Shameless self promotion:

I have started a new position with Steel City Beer Wholesalers and will be working with the accounts and ordering and whatever else. We are a small operation as you may already know. If you are out and about at your favorite bar, restaurant or distributer and don't see any of our brands (Pizza Boy, Knee Deep, Evil Twin, Off Color, Stillwater, Against the Grain), let me know. Ill post up events and special tapings that are planned here if you don't mind. Many of you know me either personally or from beer events, so don't hesitate to message me, post here or just flame me. Cheers.

How about market district shadyside?

 

[OneDropSoup]

Shameless self promotion:

I have started a new position with Steel City Beer Wholesalers and will be working with the accounts and ordering and whatever else. We are a small operation as you may already know. If you are out and about at your favorite bar, restaurant or distributer and don't see any of our brands (Pizza Boy, Knee Deep, Evil Twin, Off Color, Stillwater, Against the Grain), let me know. Ill post up events and special tapings that are planned here if you don't mind. Many of you know me either personally or from beer events, so don't hesitate to message me, post here or just flame me. Cheers.

Congrats, Tim! I thought the idea of a new wholesaler was crazy when Steel City launched, but they/you seem to be doing pretty well for yourselves so far & pulling in some good names. Also great to see an all-craft wholesaler, too.

 

[Tedwarhc]

How about market district shadyside?

We have been working to plan something with Randy. GE is going to use it as a test location.

 

[kbuzz1]

From Roundabout's newsletter (I realize this was already discussed a bit a while back, posting anyway):



Introducing our new 32oz Quart Can. Our Quart Cans are purged and then pre-filled back in the brewery with equipment designed to ensure less oxidation. We do not fill our Quart Cans from the tap in the tasting room.

We released our new Quart Can last Friday and sold out of them by Sunday. We will have more this Wednesday.

 

[OneDropSoup]

This piqued my interest from Hop Farm:
Wood'n Funky Series #1-??% This is the first release of our 100% wood fermented ales. The beer remains nameless for now. We took a fresh emptied tequila barrel and added fresh wort and some wild yeast.

 

[Tedwarhc]

This piqued my interest from Hop Farm:
Wood'n Funky Series #1-??% This is the first release of our 100% wood fermented ales. The beer remains nameless for now. We took a fresh emptied tequila barrel and added fresh wort and some wild yeast.

When are they releasing that?

Edit: Used the google and saw it is coming soon

 

[PSUMike]

I totally disagree. That list sound boring as hell. This isn't 1995.

Unless the brewer has a considerable amount of experience doing it, I struggle to justify coming out of the gate with wilds and BA stouts. Just seems like misplaced resource allocation to me.

 

[psbhockey12]

Anyone go and try the new Voodoo beers and any thoughts?

The strawberries and cream is an enjoyable lighter beer you can crush in this warmer weather. The blueberry bunches of oats is fantastic imo!! Huge blueberry nose and tons of rye barrel booziness. I've drank 4 of them since it came out and want to keep going back for more

 

[OneDropSoup]

I totally disagree. That list sound boring as hell. This isn't 1995.

No beer is boring if it's well-made.

 

[jeevo]

Bell's Black Note just hit Liberty Beer if anyone was able to make it down and wanted to split up a case. Not sure how many cases they have though and I wouldn't be surprised if it was already gone.

 

[dadavat]

Unless the brewer has a considerable amount of experience doing it, I struggle to justify coming out of the gate with wilds and BA stouts. Just seems like misplaced resource allocation to me.

There's a wide variety of beers between the same plain old 5 beers and wilds/BA stouts. I just think that in the current market, what's the point of opening a brewery that does the same exact thing that you can get anywhere else? And furthermore, hiring a brewer with a considerable amount of experience sounds like a strong business move to me.

No beer is boring if it's well-made.

While i agree that all well made beer should be awesome, when's the last time you were wowed by a brown ale? I'm starting to think that the best model for a new brewery should be specialization in one or two styles and really hitting them out of the park. I've been to way too many brewpubs that are average across the board.

 

[kbuzz1]

someone make a year round barleywine gaw dammit!

 

[jeevo]

someone make a year round barleywine gaw dammit!

East End Gratitude is available year round.

 

[kbuzz1]

East End Gratitude is available year round.

someone make a normal-priced year round barleywine gaw dammit!

 

[OneDropSoup]

While i agree that all well made beer should be awesome, when's the last time you were wowed by a brown ale? I'm starting to think that the best model for a new brewery should be specialization in one or two styles and really hitting them out of the park. I've been to way too many brewpubs that are average across the board.

I don't need to be "wowed" by a beer to enjoy it. If they make good beer & food & can service the local clientele, they'll probably do well & won't need the chasers coming from all over.

 

[epicureIO]

Bell's Black Note just hit Liberty Beer if anyone was able to make it down and wanted to split up a case. Not sure how many cases they have though and I wouldn't be surprised if it was already gone.

I would be up for this as well.

 

[PSUMike]

There's a wide variety of beers between the same plain old 5 beers and wilds/BA stouts. I just think that in the current market, what's the point of opening a brewery that does the same exact thing that you can get anywhere else? And furthermore, hiring a brewer with a considerable amount of experience sounds like a strong business move to me.

I said a considerable amount of experience with wilds and barrel aging.

But, look at it this way...a brand new brewery needs to make sellable beer right out of the gate. New businesses operate at a loss the vast majority of the time in the first few months or even years of being in operation unless something extreme happens (generally speaking of course). What better way to generate revenue for your fledgling upstart brewery than producing the top selling styles in the craft beer segment of the market?

On top of all this, this brewery is in Canonsburg. That's a craft wasteland right now so his competition will be next to nil.

I get what you're saying but what underrepresented styles should a new brewery start off with? The ever-exciting English Bitter? The always popular Dunkleweizen? C'mon, you know that's not going to put asses in the seats. An IPA, a stout, maybe a hefe, and a good Belgian style are the best ways to keep the masses happy.

 

[MooseLang]

I said a considerable amount of experience with wilds and barrel aging.

But, look at it this way...a brand new brewery needs to make sellable beer right out of the gate. New businesses operate at a loss the vast majority of the time in the first few months or even years of being in operation unless something extreme happens (generally speaking of course). What better way to generate revenue for your fledgling upstart brewery than producing the top selling styles in the craft beer segment of the market?

On top of all this, this brewery is in Canonsburg. That's a craft wasteland right now so his competition will be next to nil.

I get what you're saying but what underrepresented styles should a new brewery start off with? The ever-exciting English Bitter? The always popular Dunkleweizen? C'mon, you know that's not going to put asses in the seats. An IPA, a stout, maybe a hefe, and a good Belgian style are the best ways to keep the masses happy.

I could see the Washington/Canonsburg market being just fine with that basic lineup. There are so many breweries that make beer that isn't really embraced by this "community," but end up doing just fine. I'm sure there will be plenty of locals there.

Would that sort of brewery attract a lot of people in San Diego or Portland? I doubt it. In South Western PA? Probably.


Edit: Was going to use an example of a brewery that is making bad beer, but still seems to put lots of local asses in their seats. But it is probably better I don't name them. You get what I mean though.

 

[dadavat]

I said a considerable amount of experience with wilds and barrel aging.

But, look at it this way...a brand new brewery needs to make sellable beer right out of the gate. New businesses operate at a loss the vast majority of the time in the first few months or even years of being in operation unless something extreme happens (generally speaking of course). What better way to generate revenue for your fledgling upstart brewery than producing the top selling styles in the craft beer segment of the market?

On top of all this, this brewery is in Canonsburg. That's a craft wasteland right now so his competition will be next to nil.

I get what you're saying but what underrepresented styles should a new brewery start off with? The ever-exciting English Bitter? The always popular Dunkleweizen? C'mon, you know that's not going to put asses in the seats. An IPA, a stout, maybe a hefe, and a good Belgian style are the best ways to keep the masses happy.

I guess being in Canonsburg puts them in a non-competitive market so it doesn't really matter what the hell they decide to brew. As far as styles go, i think the industry has come so far in the past 5 years that it shouldn't be too radical of an idea that you produce something other than the standard stout, brown ale, amber ale, wheat and ipa. English bitter on cask is one of my favorite styles and you don't see it very often. A little specialization won't hurt, cask beers, ipas, belgian styles, etc...

Some background of where i'm coming from, i went to that beers of the burgh fest in lawrenceville a few months ago and there were like 10 breweries that i've never heard of who all had the same 4 beers, ipa, pale ale, stout, and brown ale, and they were all average to below average (and none were places i'd go out of my way to visit). I understand that there are different business models and and not every brewery is going to cater to the people who post on sites like this, but is it that bad as a consumer to hope for above average or different?

 

[PSUMike]

Not at all. But I can't begrudge a brand new brewery for trying to make money by playing it safe in the styles they produce out of the gate.

 

[Grodd87]

I work in Washington and it is the biggest **** hole ever. It looks like little Detroit.

 

[brother rebus]

[USER=1634]jeevo[/USER] hunterpgh would be in for a few bottles if poss
either yinz make it that way yet?

guy said it was gone in 40min

 

[jeevo]

[USER=1634]jeevo[/USER] hunterpgh would be in for a few bottles if poss
either yinz make it that way yet?

guy said it was gone in 40min

With how fast people are in Pittsburgh when it comes to beer random beer releases, I'm surprised it lasted 40 minutes to be honest with you.

 

[jeevo]

So kbuzz, how 'bout dem Buccos?

 

[preluderl]

Bucco gone' Bucco. Did just enough to say they tried, but not enough to really, actually try.