Pittsburgh

[scottsor1]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you're delusional. Stopped in this past Friday and was completely disappointed. Had Trillions- never tasted sooooooooooooo much sweet malt in a "sour" what reason would could there possibly be that you just "had to make it"?, Animal- don't know if this was the Citra Citra Citra Citra version but if it was you fell quite a few Citra short to overpower the vomit/sweatsock smell and taste, and Here and There ipa- which displayed a weird vegetal green pepper attribute that I have never experienced in a ipa before. Wherever you are getting that beef jerky from though, keep doing that because that **** was boss. Everything else is back to the drawing board.

Delusional? That's a bit rough. If you want the Pittsburgh beer scene to grow I feel as though you should support the local brewers and help them thrive. I do think criticism and tough love are cool, but your post could've been a pm to the brewer. I will admit that I've never been to Hitchhiker, but I had the chance to speak with jagoffbrewer at bocktown awhile back and he was a super friendly guy open to discussing his methods and how he's looking to improve.

I know this is a very small subset of craft beer drinkers in Pittsburgh, but you're the face of the city to the rest of the nation. Let's keep that in mind. This city is producing beer with much higher quality than the majority of the US so how about we help each other out and foster growth. Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

 

[Evahflow]

Delusional? That's a bit rough. If you want the Pittsburgh beer scene to grow I feel as though you should support the local brewers and help them thrive. I do think criticism and tough love are cool, but your post could've been a pm to the brewer. I will admit that I've never been to Hitchhiker, but I had the chance to speak with jagoffbrewer at bocktown awhile back and he was a super friendly guy open to discussing his methods and how he's looking to improve.

I know this is a very small subset of craft beer drinkers in Pittsburgh, but you're the face of the city to the rest of the nation. Let's keep that in mind. This city is producing beer with much higher quality than the majority of the US so how about we help each other out and foster growth. Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

If Shuggy is the face of the city we are all completely ******. I agree with your post for the most part though.

 

[nhindian1]

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Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

I'd argue that TH has lines constantly because it has low limits, constantly revolving beers, and thus, it trades very well.

Trillium makes much better beer than TH (imo) but doesn't have the huge lines because there is no need to line up. I don't see why having 'lines out the door for a regular release' is particularly a good thing. Regularly spending hours to get beer doesn't sound like a good time to me.

 

[preluderl]

Welp, this was fun while it lasted.

 

[brother rebus]

I'd argue that TH has lines constantly because it has low limits, constantly revolving beers, and thus, it trades very well.

Trillium makes much better beer than TH (imo) but doesn't have the huge lines because there is no need to line up. I don't see why having 'lines out the door for a regular release' is particularly a good thing. Regularly spending hours to get beer doesn't sound like a good time to me.

Well trilium did have lines out the dior. Pretty much every day at opening, for a couple hours, regardless of whether something "special" was on. But since their production facility in canton opened, i've yet to wait in a line there.


Also, jagoffbrewer you just got vegetal sweatsock'd.

 

[chefduff2]

Delusional? That's a bit rough. If you want the Pittsburgh beer scene to grow I feel as though you should support the local brewers and help them thrive. I do think criticism and tough love are cool, but your post could've been a pm to the brewer. I will admit that I've never been to Hitchhiker, but I had the chance to speak with jagoffbrewer at bocktown awhile back and he was a super friendly guy open to discussing his methods and how he's looking to improve.

I know this is a very small subset of craft beer drinkers in Pittsburgh, but you're the face of the city to the rest of the nation. Let's keep that in mind. This city is producing beer with much higher quality than the majority of the US so how about we help each other out and foster growth. Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

How else can someone shame both the Brewer and the consumer all at once though??

 

[preluderl]

How else can someone shame both the Brewer and the consumer all at once though??

 

[OneDropSoup]

Are they pounders?

I don't believe this was answered before, but yes. I've become pretty much blind to buying bottles any more, & pounders always make me extra giddy.

 

[preluderl]

I don't believe this was answered before, but yes. I've become pretty much blind to buying bottles any more, & pounders always make me extra giddy.

I'll continue to check my local GE. I'm sure they'll get them any day now...

 

[JimmyWimms]

Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release?

No.

 

[beerman6686]

Delusional? That's a bit rough. If you want the Pittsburgh beer scene to grow I feel as though you should support the local brewers and help them thrive. I do think criticism and tough love are cool, but your post could've been a pm to the brewer. I will admit that I've never been to Hitchhiker, but I had the chance to speak with jagoffbrewer at bocktown awhile back and he was a super friendly guy open to discussing his methods and how he's looking to improve.

I know this is a very small subset of craft beer drinkers in Pittsburgh, but you're the face of the city to the rest of the nation. Let's keep that in mind. This city is producing beer with much higher quality than the majority of the US so how about we help each other out and foster growth. Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

He did support them by going there in the first place. Not sure how you can argue his comments if you've never even had the beer just based on the fact that Andy is a nice guy. I think we can all agree he's a nice guy, but that has nothing to do with the product. Helping foster growth is worthless if the product isnt quality. (Mainly talking about some of the new start ups here, not HH) Im all for supporting the local breweries that deserve it, and am constantly sending out their beer across the country to get their name recognized but at the same time to say you'd like to stand in a 3 hour line just to get a growler pour of a new IPA is ridiculous. Tree House is popular because they are good, in a highly populated area, and were smart and started packaging early with an easily transportable product. They dont have some special fan base that no other area has. Supporting local because it's quality and doesnt get the same recognition as some other bigger places is important, supporting local just to support local just doesn't make sense. It's this mentallity that makes me worry that one of the better places will go under at some point.

 

[preluderl]

No.

Well, I arrived at BG at 12:07 for the noon Foshomo release and got shut out of bottles... So, how far off are we from this really? I know that wasn't a "regular" release, but still. We're probably closer to this than we think.

That wasn't a gripe, BTW. Just a statement of fact of what occurred.

 

[barflybastard]

Which Chris Pratt movie is this from?

 

[preluderl]

Which Chris Pratt movie is this from?

Lego Jurassic World

 

[chefduff2]

He did support them by going there in the first place. Not sure how you can argue his comments if you've never even had the beer just based on the fact that Andy is a nice guy. I think we can all agree he's a nice guy, but that has nothing to do with the product. Helping foster growth is worthless if the product isnt quality. (Mainly talking about some of the new start ups here, not HH) Im all for supporting the local breweries that deserve it, and am constantly sending out their beer across the country to get their name recognized but at the same time to say you'd like to stand in a 3 hour line just to get a growler pour of a new IPA is ridiculous. Tree House is popular because they are good, in a highly populated area, and were smart and started packaging early with an easily transportable product. They dont have some special fan base that no other area has. Supporting local because it's quality and doesnt get the same recognition as some other bigger places is important, supporting local just to support local just doesn't make sense. It's this mentallity that makes me worry that one of the better places will go under at some point.

If you look at current trends though... beer quality isnt the biggest factor. I know many on here want TH/TG/Trillium type beers, or some Need to compare to OG rare for every beer, but there are hundreds of community brew pubs are just fine financially with an array of quality of beers. Location and food play major factors. A lot of people want community brewpubs that they are way more forgiving then beer enthusiasts. I think the main part is people agree tact could have been used. Not sugar coat, but tact.

 

[preluderl]

think the main part is people agree tact could have been used. Not sugar coat, but tact.

This is the long and short.

 

[barflybastard]

I think the main part is people agree tact could have been used. Not sugar coat, but tact.

Some people be polemic or bust.

 

[preluderl]

Some people be polemic or bust.

Had to Google "polemic". Was disappointed it didn't mean "small handed and angry".

 

[troygreer]

If you look at current trends though... beer quality isnt the biggest factor. I know many on here want TH/TG/Trillium type beers, or some Need to compare to OG rare for every beer, but there are hundreds of community brew pubs are just fine financially with an array of quality of beers. Location and food play major factors. A lot of people want community brewpubs that they are way more forgiving then beer enthusiasts. I think the main part is people agree tact could have been used. Not sugar coat, but tact.

To piggy back on this concept, I also think we have a lot of sunshine blowers vs. the rest of the beer community. Florida went through it, PA kinda went through it with MBP. The big thing is finding a balance for your local beer community that is somewhere in between the two.

I think there are a lot of local sunshine blowers who don't see the scene for what it is. They think that everything from (insert local brewery) is amazing and they hardly look at it objectively (same can be said about the haters). IMHO, the Pittsburgh beer scene is still in its infant stages. There are a handful of breweries who have potential to lead the movement into a big beer scene but they are still growing into their own shoes, so to speak. The scene here is no different than Orlando (i use it as a barometer because that is where i used to live), but I think the sunshine blowers should pump the breaks a bit and let the breweries get another year into their craft.

One thing that I like is that the young breweries are starting to push the old guard a bit. Places like Penn are taking note and are realizing that they need to change their ways a bit if they want to stay relevant.

 

[preluderl]

One thing that I like is that the young breweries are starting to push the old guard a bit. Places like Penn are taking note and are realizing that they need to change their ways a bit if they want to stay relevant.

Any word when East End is gonna figure this out?

 

[troygreer]

Any word when East End is gonna figure this out?

Haha, wish it was sooner rather than later. I think Scott is the exception for sure. Based on his outward business decisions, he seems to have an utter disdain for the new craft beer movement and will continue to do things "his way" regardless of how it polarizes the community.

 

[PSUMike]

Any word when East End is gonna figure this out?

Heh, that's cute.

 

[jeevo]

Any word when East End is gonna figure this out?

 

[jagoffbrewer1]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you're delusional. Stopped in this past Friday and was completely disappointed. Had Trillions- never tasted sooooooooooooo much sweet malt in a "sour" what reason would could there possibly be that you just "had to make it"?, Animal- don't know if this was the Citra Citra Citra Citra version but if it was you fell quite a few Citra short to overpower the vomit/sweatsock smell and taste, and Here and There ipa- which displayed a weird vegetal green pepper attribute that I have never experienced in a ipa before. Wherever you are getting that beef jerky from though, keep doing that because that **** was boss. Everything else is back to the drawing board.

Thanks for stopping in and thanks for the feedback. Trillions wasn't my idea so I will just leave it at that. Although I can't deny your taste I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Animal. There are no off flavors in that beer per sensory evaluations that some BJCP judges did on it. Not denying it needs work but it certainly doesn't taste like vomit, sweatsocks, or isovaleric acid IMO. Here and There has Equinox in it which contributes the green pepper character. Nothing is never off the drawing board so I will continue to work on all beer.

 

[preluderl]

What do sweatsocks taste like anyway?

 

[jagoffbrewer1]

Also for me feedback is feedback IMO. Please don't dick ride my beer because I am a nice guy, I want everyone to be brutally honest.

That being said I do find it ironic that the loudest trolls (Not saying anyone here) will rave about some local beers that have insanely common/dominant off flavors. Those motherfuckers need learn that phenols aren't "house flavor".

 

[shuggy1]

Delusional? That's a bit rough. If you want the Pittsburgh beer scene to grow I feel as though you should support the local brewers and help them thrive. I do think criticism and tough love are cool, but your post could've been a pm to the brewer. I will admit that I've never been to Hitchhiker, but I had the chance to speak with jagoffbrewer at bocktown awhile back and he was a super friendly guy open to discussing his methods and how he's looking to improve.

Firmly believing that the beer coming out of there is top five in quality is completely delusional. It's not even top ten. Why haven't you gone there? How will they grow and thrive without your support? Should I help them grow and thrive by giving them my money even though I don't care for their product? There's a reason why they rarely get talked about.

I know this is a very small subset of craft beer drinkers in Pittsburgh, but you're the face of the city to the rest of the nation. Let's keep that in mind. This city is producing beer with much higher quality than the majority of the US so how about we help each other out and foster growth. Wouldn't it be cool to have lines out the door for a regular release? The only way that's going to happen is if we support the brewers and spread the word to friends and out of towners. Tree House isn't popular just because they make great beer, they're popular because their community bought in to what they're doing and told the country about it.

I firmly believe you are delusional as well.

 

[beerman6686]

Also for me feedback is feedback IMO. Please don't dick ride my beer because I am a nice guy, I want everyone to be brutally honest.

That being said I do find it ironic that the loudest trolls (Not saying anyone here) will rave about some local beers that have insanely common/dominant off flavors. Those motherfuckers need learn that phenols aren't "house flavor".

And what beers might those be?

 

[MooseLang]

And what beers might those be?

Didn't your mother teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say, then use an anonymous alias on the Internet and shitpost all about the subject which you don't have anything nice to say?

 

[jagoffbrewer1]

And what beers might those be?

Not going to name them.