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[kbuzz1]

Drinking the Bourbon Quadfather now. Tremendous. Maybe a little sweeter than I'd like, but that's why I'm not a huge fan of Quads...so in other words, its spot on for the style. Barrel presence is untouchable as always...and the carb is perfect. Anyone recall what barrel was used for this one?

Resounding 2/2 on this round of BRC thus far for me. Probably liked the Ten Wee just a bit more, but not much separation.

Side note: I love the wax that voodoo uses...I never have to work very hard or endanger phalanges just to get to the damn beer.

Let's Go Bucs!

EDIT: what kind of backwards ******* algorithm is BA using when this beer is only an 88 with only 3 ratings below a ******* 4.4. What kind of ******** is that??

/homer rant

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

Suspicion confirmed.

Lol was that some tired ass dig at my comedic sensibilities?

 

[kbuzz1]

Lol was that some tired ass dig at my comedic sensibilities?

Suspicion confirmed.

 

[preluderl]

Lol was that some tired ass dig at my comedic sensibilities?

Well, at least you know he doesn't have you on ignore. Generally this thread is just more or less him talking to himself since he can't see anything the rest of us are saying.

 

[beerman6686]

Pretty sure I'm done taking the risk of buying Voodoo IPA cans. This last run of Unrefined is awful. It's straight diacetyl and sweetness.

 

[preluderl]

Pretty sure I'm done taking the risk of buying Voodoo IPA cans. This last run of Unrefined is awful. It's straight diacetyl and sweetness.

Seen some check ins on Untappd saying similar things, unfortunately.

What causes something like this? A brewing issue? A canning line issue? I don't beer science much so I have no idea.

 

[shuggy1]

Lol was that some tired ass dig at my comedic sensibilities?

Do you get a lot of queries in regards to your affinity for bad comedians?

 

[kbuzz1]

Pretty sure I'm done taking the risk of buying Voodoo IPA cans. This last run of Unrefined is awful. It's straight diacetyl and sweetness.

I don't understand why I keep hearing this. Curt doesn't strike me as the type to let less than stellar product leave the building...let alone on a continuous basis. Not like dude can't rock the hoppy category. Anyone have any insight into root cause and/or can relay any feedback they've received from the brewery on this stuff? I've not had the fortune to try a single can from them yet...so can't personally attest to anything.

 

[Clerkp]

I love voodoo but there definitely is something going on. The last batch of vivrant things was off. Floaties and super sweet. I tossed 3 of them. Definitely been some hit or miss.

 

[beerman6686]

I don't understand why I keep hearing this. Curt doesn't strike me as the type to let less than stellar product leave the building...let alone on a continuous basis. Not like dude can't rock the hoppy category. Anyone have any insight into root cause and/or can relay any feedback they've received from the brewery on this stuff? I've not had the fortune to try a single can from them yet...so can't personally attest to anything.

Apparently you've completely blocked Barrel Room 3 out of your mind

 

[beerman6686]

Seen some check ins on Untappd saying similar things, unfortunately.

What causes something like this? A brewing issue? A canning line issue? I don't beer science much so I have no idea.

Its a brewing/fermentation issue, not a packaging issues.

 

[kbuzz1]

Apparently you've completely blocked Barrel Room 3 out of your mind

I enjoyed every single one of those beers to various extents. Some had different tastes...but wouldn't describe any as "off" in any way...just outside the box at worst.

 

[dadavat]

Pretty sure I'm done taking the risk of buying Voodoo IPA cans. This last run of Unrefined is awful. It's straight diacetyl and sweetness.

Unrefined and blips were not very good IMO. Guy on the other hand was straight up amazing. I'm not sure why there is such a disparity but my guess would be oxidation introduced during mobile canning.

 

[shuggy1]

Unrefined and blips were not very good IMO. Guy on the other hand was straight up amazing. I'm not sure why there is such a disparity but my guess would be oxidation introduced during mobile canning.

Choice of hops might have a bit to do with those beers not being enjoyable.

 

[beerman6686]

I enjoyed every single one of those beers to various extents. Some had different tastes...but wouldn't describe any as "off" in any way...just outside the box at worst.

I'm not trying to blatantly bash Voodoo because they make some of the best BA beers in the world, but to say they wouldn't ever sell something that was less than stellar is just silly. Remember throwing bottles of 33 month old apple brandy gran met in barrel room 4 that you had to buyas a package? I also assume Blueberry Bunches of Oats and Maple Barrel Jerry Porter were supposed to be packaged, but they were both pretty bad so they kegged it and just sold it in draft. Although if you somehow enjoyed Blackbeard's Delight and Draai Laag beers, maybe you would have like those too.

 

[beerman6686]

Choice of hops might have a bit to do with those beers not being enjoyable.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

 

[kbuzz1]

I'm not trying to blatantly bash Voodoo because they make some of the best BA beers in the world, but to say they wouldn't ever sell something that was less than stellar is just silly. Remember throwing bottles of 33 month old apple brandy gran met in barrel room 4 that you had to buyas a package? I also assume Blueberry Bunches of Oats and Maple Barrel Jerry Porter were supposed to be packaged, but they were both pretty bad so they kegged it and just sold it in draft. Although if you somehow enjoyed Blackbeard's Delight and Draai Laag beers, maybe you would have like those too.

Taking the bait...and this is going to reek of fanboyism...zero *****.

Didn't have Blueberry Bunches of Oats or Maple JP, so can't speak to those. Nor have I had any of these cans.

I was just trying to say that their track record...at least with what I've had...doesn't support the volume of negative feedback about these can releases. I would think at the very least, Curt would have squashed the whole thing after one...maybe two...bad runs, until fixed. It's just odd to me that a dude who obviously cares so much about his product and has so much patience with his releases is putting out diacetyl-laced butter beers. Repeatedly. Something doesn't add up. Either...

A. People are wrong about the beers (unlikely considering volume of negative feedback from variety of sources)
B. The beers really are bad and Voodoo just doesn't give a **** (to me, the most unlikely)
C. The beers are rapidly degrading after being packaged...or some other post fermentation related part of the process.

I'm just confused is all.

To that last comment: Draai Laag makes bad beer - like all of it. I thought Blackbeard's Delight was good. If you don't believe me, still ISO more.

 

[dadavat]

Choice of hops might have a bit to do with those beers not being enjoyable.

Maybe moreso quality of hops? I've heard smaller brewers with less buying power get the scraps that are leftover. Or inconsistent hop quality batch to batch?

It's very difficult for me to hypothesize how one batch can be so good and the others not so much. Maybe one batch sits in the fermenters longer while they wait to have enough batches to can 3 different beers?

 

[london1o11]

Remember throwing bottles of 33 month old apple brandy gran met in barrel room 4 that you had to buyas a package?

Not sure if you saw, but I posted a while back that I'm looking to pick these up if you still have any and are trying to unload them. Will pay original cost or trade $4$ quality shelfies/locals.

 

[ur boy catlicks]

diacetyl (buttery flavor) can lay dormant in a beer for weeks, but the conversion of its predecessor (acetolactate, I think?) to diacetyl is spurred by intro of oxygen and/or heat.

a higher presence of diacetyl is usually caused by cooling and packaging prematurely and not giving the yeast ample time to clean up the diacetyl and/or acetolactate (called a diacetyl rest).

i recently had a DIPA from 3 stars/j wakefield and it was an unpalatable buttery mess. i wouldn't be surprised at all if these juice bomb breweries are in a rush to package the hops as fresh as possible and sacrifice fermentation time which would cause this **** to happen in cans.

 

[moarhops1]

diacetyl (buttery flavor) can lay dormant in a beer for weeks, but the conversion of its predecessor (acetolactate, I think?) to diacetyl is spurred by intro of oxygen and/or heat.

a higher presence of diacetyl is usually caused by cooling and packaging prematurely and not giving the yeast ample time to clean up the diacetyl and/or acetolactate (called a diacetyl rest).

i recently had a DIPA from 3 stars/j wakefield and it was an unpalatable buttery mess. i wouldn't be surprised at all if these juice bomb breweries are in a rush to package the hops as fresh as possible and sacrifice fermentation time which would cause this **** to happen in cans.

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

Do you get a lot of queries in regards to your affinity for bad comedians?

Lol not at all, I was expressing respect for the recent live sets I have seen from a guy who can clearly put together a tight five.

I'm not here to fall on my sword for Dane cook based on your dated ass impression of a comic from the MySpace era, I am sure all your erudite armchair applied levity science from Netflix has you up on game.

 

[preluderl]

I liked the 33 month Gran Met. Zfg

 

[shuggy1]

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

How so?

 

[shuggy1]

Lol not at all, I was expressing respect for the recent live sets I have seen from a guy who can clearly put together a tight five.

I'm not here to fall on my sword for Dane cook based on your dated ass impression of a comic from the MySpace era, I am sure all your erudite armchair applied levity science from Netflix has you up on game.

You continue with your beer blog so obviously you have no idea what tired ass even means. Maybe you could take a page from the Dane Cook playbook and put together a tight five on your website?

 

[Trady]

You continue with your beer blog so obviously you have no idea what tired ass even means. Maybe you could take a page from the Dane Cook playbook and put together a tight five on your website?

So he could:

A) Rework his writing and humor style to better appease your preference to brief, deadpan humor, or

B) You could read a different beer blog, or just not read them at all

 

[psnydez861]

 

[stakem1]

Cannot wait to get home tonight and drink these cans of butter tommyguz sent me.

http://memeguy.com/photos/images/winter-in-norway-zero-*****-given-83958.gif

 

[kbuzz1]

Cannot wait to get home tonight and drink these cans of butter tommyguz sent me.

http://memeguy.com/photos/images/winter-in-norway-zero-*****-given-83958.gif

please report back...if you have bad things to say, then I will surely believe it.

 

[Matthouse3]

Drinking the Bourbon Quadfather now. Tremendous. Maybe a little sweeter than I'd like, but that's why I'm not a huge fan of Quads...so in other words, its spot on for the style. Barrel presence is untouchable as always...and the carb is perfect. Anyone recall what barrel was used for this one?

Resounding 2/2 on this round of BRC thus far for me. Probably liked the Ten Wee just a bit more, but not much separation.

Side note: I love the wax that voodoo uses...I never have to work very hard or endanger phalanges just to get to the damn beer.

Let's Go Bucs!

EDIT: what kind of backwards ******* algorithm is BA using when this beer is only an 88 with only 3 ratings below a ******* 4.4. What kind of ******** is that??

/homer rant

As great as both new Magicks are, I think the Bourbon Quad might be the best beer out of the new release. So scrummy.