Pittsburgh

[preluderl]

I have another bottle of 3F Geuze and a Cantillion Bio. That's it for the real Belgian gueuze in my cellar.

I also have this, but I suspect that much like any lambic that Draai Laag makes, it's not really a gueuze.

https://untappd.com/b/natty-greene-s-brewing-co-hitchpost-gueuze-lambic/1224735

 

[OneDropSoup]

Just read this yesterday. https://dontdrinkbeer.com/2016/07/07/authentic-gueuze-vs-american-goozie-blind-shootout/

 

[OneDropSoup]

Speaking of Epic, has anyone seen the Sour IPA around town? AnotherPint4Ole and I tried it a few nights ago and I really dug it.

House posted it recently.

 

[preluderl]

Just read this yesterday. https://dontdrinkbeer.com/2016/07/07/authentic-gueuze-vs-american-goozie-blind-shootout/

Thanks for that Nate. Interesting for sure.

 

[dadavat]

Just read this yesterday. https://dontdrinkbeer.com/2016/07/07/authentic-gueuze-vs-american-goozie-blind-shootout/

i saw that too. it's fun to compare super low bottle count beers but i don't think any american brewery will ever be able to mass produce to the quality and price point of the belgian standards.

 

[tommyguz]

Tilquin can be found around, too, maybe even more readily now that 12% is distributing here. And don't sleep on Cuvee Rene.

So good and the Rene Kriek is awesome too.

I almost always have Cuvee Rene on hand. Some bottles of Cuvee Rene have been (to my taste) better than recent batches of Cantillon Classic. I probably haven't had enough of the WHALESZS American Wilds, but that won't stop me from making the blanket statement that Cuvee Rene is *probably* better than most of the best American Wilds. There is something about the balance of funk, fruit, and lighter acidity that the Belgians pull off, versus the HOLY **** THAT'S SOUR of American Wilds.

Girardin Black Label used to be relatively easy to find, but that's not the case anymore. If you can get your hands on some, scoop it up. 3F, Tilquin, and Black Label are my personal "big three" in terms of Gueuze.

Ugh. Girardin is so good. They won't send it to the US anymore. stakem and I F'd up only ordered one bulk package of 750s when they were on sale for 99 euro's or something stupid cheap

 

[tommyguz]

Just read this yesterday. https://dontdrinkbeer.com/2016/07/07/authentic-gueuze-vs-american-goozie-blind-shootout/

what does that guy know?

 

[tommyguz]

what does that guy know?

Maybe I should ask him dontdrinkbeer what do you know!

 

[HeadHunter]

Oh dear sweet goozie do I love Grand Cru Broucsella

 

[stakem1]

So good and the Rene Kriek is awesome too.



Ugh. Girardin is so good. They won't send it to the US anymore. stakem and I F'd up only ordered one bulk package of 750s when they were on sale for 99 euro's or something stupid cheap

Girardin still gets US distro, you just cant webshop "self-import" it anymore.

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

Maybe I should ask him dontdrinkbeer what do you know!

I spend way too much of my time praising beer from the PAjaotenland

 

[dadavat]

Oh dear sweet goozie do I love Grand Cru Broucsella

i haven't had that or st gilloise yet. i'll put them on the list.

 

[McMatt7]

I just pulled a Cuvee Rene out of the basement from 2013 the other night. It was "Bawitdaba da bang a dang diggy diggy diggy said the boogy said up jump the boogy" if you know what i mean. Love that stuff.

 

[tommyguz]

Girardin still gets US distro, you just cant webshop "self-import" it anymore.

Yeah that's what I meant. You can't get it from dem belgie shops

 

[Evahflow]

So I have a question for you nerdz who know the beer sciences much better than I. I posted this in the drinking thread last night looking for some opinions, but I didn't get any unfortunately.

Opened a 3F Oude Geuze 14' last night. The oak aged version, gold label, bottled January 2014, 375ml bottle. It's been in my bar fridge since I got it about six months ago in a trade, but before that obviously I cannot attest to how it was handled.

Looked normal on the pour. The nose was burnt oak, sulfur and garlic. My palate isn't for ****, so I apologize I can't give you anything more sophisticated, but as I can best describe it both smelled and tasted like a garlic spiked fart. I couldn't even come remotely close to finishing the bottle and ended up dumping it.

My only previous gueuze experienced was with LPG and it tasted NOTHING like this. Not in the same universe.

So, any idea what gives? Surely this is not what this beer was intended to taste like.

I highly doubt it was enteric bacteria like some mentioned. Beer with that off character would be easily identified and dumped by the time it was to be blended. Armand may be the best blender in the world. My money would be on it going through a bad brett phase. I've gotten garlic/sulphur from brett before at certain stages. Or it would be a slight lightstruck thing with the old woody/cheesy hops in that beer. Could be conceived as garlic. I'd just chalk it up to being a bad bottle, you should absolutely try it again if you can. I should have some 375's on the way soon, I'll give you one.

 

[MooseLang]

i haven't had that or st gilloise yet. i'll put them on the list.

I haven't had St. Gilloise for a few years, but I love that ******* beer.

GCB scared me away at first. The first bottle I had was a 2010 vintage (2013 bottling), and it was not good. SeaWatchman said that you need to hold off on GCB until it's 4-5 years old, so I have high hopes for my 2009 vintages (2012 bottlings).

 

[preluderl]

I highly doubt it was enteric bacteria like some mentioned. Beer with that off character would be easily identified and dumped by the time it was to be blended. Armand may be the best blender in the world. My money would be on it going through a bad brett phase. I've gotten garlic/sulphur from brett before at certain stages. Or it would be a slight lightstruck thing with the old woody/cheesy hops in that beer. Could be conceived as garlic. I'd just chalk it up to being a bad bottle, you should absolutely try it again if you can. I should have some 375's on the way soon, I'll give you one.

Appreciate the opinions and generosity man. No need on the freebie though. I have a 750 that's newer and I fully intend to give it another try for sure. I would never be deterred from one bad experience, I was just curious to find out if it was me, or if it was something wrong with that bottle.

But again, thanks so much for the offer. Truly appreciated. I'll be sure to report back when I open the other one.

 

[mikebezek]

You totally trade-raped that guy! Hah!

Hell ya!

 

[McMatt7]

How can Giant Eagle brand tuna fish be sooooo much shittier than starkist tuna fish? Its the ******* worst. I mean, come on.

Lambic.

 

[SeaWatchman]

You totally trade-raped that guy! Hah!

Really? Can't think of any better verbiage there?

 

[PSUMike]

Really? Can't think of any better verbiage there?

Trade-surprise sex'd?

 

[SeaWatchman]

I haven't had St. Gilloise for a few years, but I love that ******* beer.

GCB scared me away at first. The first bottle I had was a 2010 vintage (2013 bottling), and it was not good. SeaWatchman said that you need to hold off on GCB until it's 4-5 years old, so I have high hopes for my 2009 vintages (2012 bottlings).

Bruocsella is awful. Don't ever drink it. Just acquire bottles and trade them to me so I can seal them away in a concrete tomb until they eventually melt away.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Trade-surprise sex'd?

 

[Brewski2]

edit- i left my credit card at east end four weeks ago, and picked it up yesterday. They have 2012 Gratitude on tap. I was surprised how delicious it was. very tasty.

2012 is Flatitude, correct? Do you know if they are doing growler fills(serious question)?

 

[AnotherPint4Ole]

Really? Can't think of any better verbiage there?

The real me is sorry for any perceived insensitivity. The #newmoneytrader #whalezbro I was sort of personifying/making light of probably would have said what I said. :/

 

[brother rebus]

2012 is Flatitude, correct? Do you know if they are doing growler fills(serious question)?

Idk. Thats what i thought. I aksed and he said "no". Maybe it was only flat in bottles?
And no growlers. Just 4oz taster and (12?)ooz poors.

 

[shuggy1]

2012 is Flatitude, correct? Do you know if they are doing growler fills(serious question)?

Idk. Thats what i thought. I aksed and he said "no". Maybe it was only flat in bottles?
And no growlers. Just 4oz taster and (12?)ooz poors.

'11 & '12 were the Flatitude years. They're the best tasting vintages since 2008.

 

[docreight1]

Idk. Thats what i thought. I aksed and he said "no". Maybe it was only flat in bottles?
And no growlers. Just 4oz taster and (12?)ooz poors.

flatitude in a keg + CO2= no longer flatitude

 

[uvm2003]

Is dancing gnome open? I'm seeing a bunch of checkins at their spot. I drove past it two weeks ago and it looked completely empty.

 

[Brewski2]

flatitude in a keg + CO2= no longer flatitude

Yes sir! East End sold growlers of force carbed Flatitude in February of 2013(I think) for $25. A couple people I know also carbed it up at home and it came out great.