Pictures of your Hop Babies/Hop Photo Thread

[Damonic]

WOW! I am jealous... mine ain't looking so good guys. I need to post some pics to figure out wtf I'm doing wrong.

 

[Aleforge]

WOW! I am jealous... mine ain't looking so good guys. I need to post some pics to figure out wtf I'm doing wrong.

I'm in the same boat. Mine are stuck, they have not grown any the past week. I did notice some mushrooms popping up... I guess my problem might be to much water. But thats not my fault as it wont stop freaking raining!

 

[Schlenkerla]

Mine are growing like a MOFO.

The bines are really fat!!

This shot was about 10' off the ground.

I can't believe mine are already starting to flower!!! :rockin:

They also need to be pruned. The bottom of the tomato cage is completely covered w/ new growth. I was away one week and base is all over grown.

FYI -The top pick was from last weeks pole raising.

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[azrednex]

Does anybody know if it's possible to "trick" the rhizomes into thinking that it's summer in the north by planting them in winter AZ? I remember my grandmother freezing flower bulbs through the summer to plant in the fall for this purpose and I wonder if it's possible with hops.

 

[KENTUCKYBREWER]

I'm not sure how you’re going to trick them, they have a completely different growth cycle and the flower bulbs are completely deciduous replacing both their roots and leaves each cycle.

With the hops you would have to cut back and dig up the rhizomes in the middle of their growth cycle destroying their established roots in order to store them in the freezer (I don't think they would survive freezing).

Second problem isn't that you won't get them to start growing in the Fall, if they survive, they will sprout and grow. But they will burn up all their stored energy establishing new roots.

And for the sake of this question, let’s say they did have established roots and had the potential to flower. It is daylight duration that initiates flowering, and you would be losing daylight as winter arrives so it is fairly unlikely that they would produce.

The reason it worked with your grandmothers flower bulbs was that the springtime annuals have about a 3 month growth cycle before they go dormant. They have a temperature trigger that tells them to start growing when temps rise. Since Fall is the equivalent of Spring in temperatures, your grandmother was able to trick the bulbs into another "Spring" bloom.

 

[azrednex]

I was thinking more of a refrigerater and a potted rhizome. Then again it's probablly not worth the effort, my brother lives in Portland and has offered to plant a few varieties for me

 

[cuinrearview]

I was reading the other day about hops needing the off-season as part of their growth cycle. The article said that different periods of different (colder) temperature ranges help them re-fuel. The term used was vernalization (sp?).

Just found the article: http://pw2.netcom.com/~dluzanp/nov.htm

 

[david_42]

There is little or no evidence for hop vernalization, at least that's the opinion of the folks at the High AA program at OSU. Hops are driven entirely by the length of the day. So, you can trick them using grow lights.

Speaking of light. A couple of days of sunshine and:

Front row: Fuggles, Perle, N.B. Cascade
Back: Nuggett, Willemette, Sunbeam, Mt. Hood

14 ft trellis, Mt. Hood, Perle & N.B. in second year. All others, third. The Fuggles & Cascade are about 9' tall, although the green on green makes it tough to see. The Sunbeam (yellow) was enjoying the cool cloudy weather & is in the process of toasting.

 

[k1v1116]

the cones are starting to form on two of my three hops (fuggle and perle the chinook need a little more time) with any luck I think the harvest might start mid to late july.

 

[Dig]

theorhetically it would be possible to get a winter harvest in AZ. The harvest would not be as big, but you would have fresh hops. Many plants that depend on daylength can give a double harvest if properly managed. Grow lights, as mentioned, would also be a second way to get a harvest for those of you in the colder climates.

 

[Hagen]

My cascade is starting to flower!

 

[cuinrearview]

There is little or no evidence for hop vernalization, at least that's the opinion of the folks at the High AA program at OSU.

Makes sense to me, just sharing what I've read. I guess I'm more lucky than most here, as I have a home, I don't sweat the little things, and just let them grow every year.

 

[gwood]

My Cascades, taken today.

 

[Bobby_M]

No pic update yet but I just got home from a 5 day vacation to find the tallest one in this pic made it up to the second story gutter and has a ton of cones on it. It's the Chinook and I'm psyched to see what the harvest is going to be. I guess NJ really is the garden state...unless you're in Camden or Newark.

 

[7Enigma]

News so good you had to post twice? j/k I'd love to see the root system inside those 1/2 barrels. I bet by the end of the summer you'll have more roots than dirt!

 

[Aleforge]

I wish I could post an update like Bobby. All three of mine have ceased growing. They are green, look healthy, but none will grow past about 12 inches. They just... sit there. Frozen in time.

 

[7Enigma]

I wish I could post an update like Bobby. All three of mine have ceased growing. They are green, look healthy, but none will grow past about 12 inches. They just... sit there. Frozen in time.

It's only been 3-4 days since you did the stick thing correct? And you wrapped them clockwise around the stick(s)? If so I'd give it another day or two before getting worried. But I'd seriously look at the growing points closely. It's possible something nibbled them (or disease) and that will kill the growth (except you would then see side shoots probably start to grow off the highest leaves). If you can grab a closeup picture maybe someone will spot something. Sorry to hear it's not working out so far but the season is still young!

 

[Aleforge]

It's only been 3-4 days since you did the stick thing correct? And you wrapped them clockwise around the stick(s)? If so I'd give it another day or two before getting worried. But I'd seriously look at the growing points closely. It's possible something nibbled them (or disease) and that will kill the growth (except you would then see side shoots probably start to grow off the highest leaves). If you can grab a closeup picture maybe someone will spot something. Sorry to hear it's not working out so far but the season is still young!

I guess it has been only 4 days or so since I put the little sticks on them. Although the Centennial is about 2 inches tall and never got any bigger. I just have been shocked by some other first year growths compared to mine. The one in the early pictures from weeks ago is still the same length! I will wait another week then take new pics. Maybe from all the damn rain it messed with them!

 

[7Enigma]

Rain can definitely be a HUGE factor in growth. Too little and, duh, but too much can be just as damaging. When the soil is saturated for a long time the oxygen that normally diffuses into the root zone can't get through the wet soil easily. This causes anaerobic conditions as the aerobic bacteria use up the available oxygen. In short periods this doesn't have much affect, but prolonged water-logging can be damaging, which among other things can lead to root rot. If you don't have a great drainage setup (heck even if you do), I would take a 12" narrow stake and poke the ground AROUND the rhizome(s) to a depth of 8-12". This will allow for some oxygen to get down to the roots and as importantly help with the drying as the moisture can evaporate faster.

I bet this is the problem, if the rain holds off for a while you should start to see some explosive growth. I know my bines grew really slow until they hit 8-12", then it was like I shot them with steroids...

 

[Aleforge]

Rain can definitely be a HUGE factor in growth. Too little and, duh, but too much can be just as damaging. When the soil is saturated for a long time the oxygen that normally diffuses into the root zone can't get through the wet soil easily. This causes anaerobic conditions as the aerobic bacteria use up the available oxygen. In short periods this doesn't have much affect, but prolonged water-logging can be damaging, which among other things can lead to root rot. If you don't have a great drainage setup (heck even if you do), I would take a 12" narrow stake and poke the ground AROUND the rhizome(s) to a depth of 8-12". This will allow for some oxygen to get down to the roots and as importantly help with the drying as the moisture can evaporate faster.

I bet this is the problem, if the rain holds off for a while you should start to see some explosive growth. I know my bines grew really slow until they hit 8-12", then it was like I shot them with steroids...

Thanks Enigma, I appreciate the detailed help. I have had a slight feeling to much water was the issue. I am going to take your advice and try to aerate down around the rhizomes tonight.

Thanks!

 

[dp69_2001]

Meh, I think I'll just wait till next year. I'm too late, and I've been extremely busy with golfing, brewing and working anyways. The hops sound like they need a moderate amount of tending. First year brewer. I'll make next year my first year hop grower.

 

[Aleforge]

Meh, I think I'll just wait till next year. I'm too late, and I've been extremely busy with golfing, brewing and working anyways. The hops sound like they need a moderate amount of tending. First year brewer. I'll make next year my first year hop grower.

Obviously I should not be the one giving advice on hops. BUT.... I don't feel if you "can" get rhizomes still that it would be too late to at least get them established for next year. I mean if planted today you would still have a few months of warm growing season left to get their roots spreading.

 

[dp69_2001]

That is a very good point.

 

[LastCall]

There is no time like the present. I'd be willing to bet you can plant something by about Sept and still get enough root growth for next year, not really knowing much about your local climate however. If you can find rhizomes, just dig a hole, stick em in and wait. Plants just want to grow man.

 

[98EXL]

I wish I could find some more....I have space and can plant. I wish I could find 2 more Cascades to replace my DOA ones and I think I need 2 Centennials too

 

[Aleforge]

I wish I could find some more....I have space and can plant. I wish I could find 2 more Cascades to replace my DOA ones and I think I need 2 Centennials too

Freshhops has some Kent Golding rhizome's left. I planted one, not a bad hop really!

 

[Bobby_M]

Late-June update... Holy Chinook. Does anyone else have major cone growth going on already? This is my first attempt at growing and I'm phyched and anxious that I pull this off correctly. I'm supposed to wait until the lupilin builds up in the cones and the tips start to slightly brown right?

This is the Fuggle and it's just getting started.

 

[Soulive]

Late-June update... Holy Chinook. Does anyone else have major cone growth going on already?

I've got cone growth that is slightly smaller. Growing hops is so easy when you consider what you get out of it...

 

[Aleforge]

Damn it Bobby! This is my first year too! And I am still stuck with 6 inches of growth! You guys are doing awesome!

 

[Bobby_M]

And just FYI for those who know my address. I have a firearm and several key vantage points overlooking the crop ;-)