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The following post is not beer related, but it is local. IP only, not willing to ship this cat.

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My fiance and I found Milkshakes a few months ago, wandering around as a stray outside our old apartment in Philly. She was in rough shape; she had toxoplasmosis and a bad case of fleas, and she only weighed four pounds. When the missus saw her, she grabbed some food from inside and sat down on our stoop, and Milkshakes immediately jumped into her lap and started purring. We brought her inside, got her weight up to healthy, made sure she was spayed and had a clean bill of health. She’s slowly coming out of her shell, and she’ll be a great cat in the right situation.


Unfortunately, ours is not the right situation for her. Milkshakes is super cute and great with people, and she’s back up to snuff medically, but there are problems with our other cats. She’s still got that competitive stray cat everything-is-survival mentality, and it’s really starting to affect them. Everyone is stressed out, including Milkshakes and us. She would absolutely do best in a single-cat household. We’ve never had her around dogs or kids, but I don’t imagine there would be any issues.


We’re trying to find a place for her ourselves because given her issues with other cats, we just don’t think she’d do well finding a permanent home in a rescue or shelter situation. She’s got a creaky little mew (and she uses it), loves climbing, and is extremely food-motivated for training purposes. We’ve got some toys and all the supplies you would need, and a carrier for her as well. She’s been through a lot, and all we’re asking is that you give her a shot from here on out.

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Anybody check out the re-opened Hawthornes yet? Different? Better? The same?
 
Is it finally open? Live down the street. Will have to go tomorrow or Friday and report back (never went to the old so can't comment on the better aspect...)
 
Anybody check out the re-opened Hawthornes yet? Different? Better? The same?
I stopped through Hawthornes the other day. Things looked the same to me (except for one long shelf instead of two smaller shelves as the island). I wouldn't have noticed a difference if I wasn't looking for one.
 
found some 2013 bourbon county at Khyber Pass over the weekend. Goooood times.

Anyone headed to Winter Beer Night at barcade? Some tasty beers being tapped.
 
Anyone going to the 50-50 Eclipse event at the Drafting Room Saturday? Bunch of 13 and 14 variants, couldn't find info online about prices or pour sizes tho.
 
Anybody check out the re-opened Hawthornes yet? Different? Better? The same?

I was there last weekend - felt like they hadnt missed a beat really. Food was tasty, plenty of good beer options, etc. Theres some changes to the fireplace, counter and bottle shop areas but it still looks like Hawthornes. It is definitely more crowded though - it was an hour wait for brunch so we walked down to DD for a beer and came back. Just plan on waiting or coming back if you hit them up during a peak time.
 
Are there any reasonably priced bottle shops with good selections? Foodery and beer heaven aren't much better
 
Kinda what I thiught. Just trying to understand the hawthornes hate (that gillian price is pretty silly)
 
Are there any reasonably priced bottle shops with good selections? Foodery and beer heaven aren't much better
Unfortunately, I've almost universally found that the words "reasonably priced" and "bottle shop" don't exist in the same sentence. There are always, of course, exceptions. I get most of my stuff at Whole Foods or Wegman's. They generally have the best prices I've found.
 
It isn't completely the bottle shops faults but yes prices like that are crazy. There are quite a number of added taxes when selling beer in Philly that don't exist outside the city. On top of higher rents, it kind of stinks. However, 100% markups are pretty gross.

edit: Honestly, I think things would be a bit cheaper if a bottle shop could open without needing to pretend to offer food. So many of these places must waste a ton of money on that useless overhead. Good luck ever seeing that change though.
 
It isn't completely the bottle shops faults but yes prices like that are crazy. There are quite a number of added taxes when selling beer in Philly that don't exist outside the city. On top of higher rents, it kind of stinks. However, 100% markups are pretty gross.

edit: Honestly, I think things would be a bit cheaper if a bottle shop could open without needing to pretend to offer food. So many of these places must waste a ton of money on that useless overhead. Good luck ever seeing that change though.

Indeed. We live in one of the most ass backwards states in the union when it comes to beer and liquor laws. And it'll never change, because the ******** laws in place are designed to line the pockets of certain individual's pockets. I don't see them looking to give up their position of privilege either.
 
It isn't completely the bottle shops faults but yes prices like that are crazy. There are quite a number of added taxes when selling beer in Philly that don't exist outside the city.

Hawthornes is under the Bella Vista umbrella (not legally, but within a loophole). They're literally across the street from Bella Vista so they surely didn't pay additional tax, gas fees, handling fees and probably got the case at Bella Vistas wholesale price unlike other bottle shops who have to order beer that only Bella Vista has such as The Bruery.

The Hottenroth price is literally a 200% markup with lower overhead. Go to whole foods and buy it for $6.99-7.99
 
last time I got beer at whole foods I was shocked to pay $16 for a 4 pack of here gose nothin
 
Hawthornes is under the Bella Vista umbrella (not legally, but within a loophole). They're literally across the street from Bella Vista so they surely didn't pay additional tax, gas fees, handling fees and probably got the case at Bella Vistas wholesale price unlike other bottle shops who have to order beer that only Bella Vista has such as The Bruery.

The Hottenroth price is literally a 200% markup with lower overhead. Go to whole foods and buy it for $6.99-7.99
Uh, they definitely have to pay the 10% tax that everyone pays. Whether they get the case at a good price from them I have no idea. I'm not arguing with you that the price is ****** and I stated as such, I'm just saying Philly bottle shops have built in costs that don't exist outside the city.
 
Honestly, I think things would be a bit cheaper if a bottle shop could open without needing to pretend to offer food. So many of these places must waste a ton of money on that useless overhead. Good luck ever seeing that change though.

I'm confused. There are pleanty of bottle shops that do not offer food—Brew, Bottle shop on passyunk, beer heaven, local 44 bottle shop...
 

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