Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[HoppyDaze]

Richie Incognito is a sack of sh!t

 

[finsfan]

Richie Incognito is a sack of sh!t

Yep. No arguing there.

 

[Cape Brewing]

I dunno... I still find this entire Incognito/Martin thing insanely suspicious.

Pretent your Martin for a second... you suck and your team sucks. Your career isn't one where you're going to be making a ton of money. You, maybe, aren't into it as much. you have two high powered lawyers for parents... and... you just happen to have a MOUNTAIN of "evidence" that you had been enduring a "hostile environment" in the workplace.

It all lines up just a little too conveniently.

Now... Incognito has a long history of being a d-bag but this whole Martin thing is just too suspect.

I don't know about any of you but if someone just took a long list of my text messages to my buddies or texts from my buddies to me... and/or recordings of what we say to each other over a couple beers... in a vacuum without being there in person, it would look like we were the most evil people on the planet. We purposely try to out-offend each other.

I just don't know that's I'm buying any of it or not. Again... it'll all lines up wayyyyyyyy to easily for there to be a MASSIVE lawsuit here with Martin freakin' suing EVVVVERYONE... Incognito, the Dolphins, the NFL... anyone he can get his hands on.

And I am willing to bet what was going on between Incognito and Martin is going on between 30 other guys in that locker room and then 30 guys in each and every other locker room in the league.

 

[finsfan]

Exactly. It happens a hell of a lot more then we know about, this one person just decided he couldnt take it. Maybe the fact that his parents are lawyers makes him think, and gives him a chance, at winning a lawsuit though.

 

[HoppyDaze]

I dunno... I still find this entire Incognito/Martin thing insanely suspicious.

Pretent your Martin for a second... you suck and your team sucks. Your career isn't one where you're going to be making a ton of money. You, maybe, aren't into it as much. you have two high powered lawyers for parents... and... you just happen to have a MOUNTAIN of "evidence" that you had been enduring a "hostile environment" in the workplace.

It all lines up just a little too conveniently.

Now... Incognito has a long history of being a d-bag but this whole Martin thing is just too suspect.

I don't know about any of you but if someone just took a long list of my text messages to my buddies or texts from my buddies to me... and/or recordings of what we say to each other over a couple beers... in a vacuum without being there in person, it would look like we were the most evil people on the planet. We purposely try to out-offend each other.

I just don't know that's I'm buying any of it or not. Again... it'll all lines up wayyyyyyyy to easily for there to be a MASSIVE lawsuit here with Martin freakin' suing EVVVVERYONE... Incognito, the Dolphins, the NFL... anyone he can get his hands on.

And I am willing to bet what was going on between Incognito and Martin is going on between 30 other guys in that locker room and then 30 guys in each and every other locker room in the league.

So you think it's suspect to document your interactions with a person who's been abusive? It's just plain smart if you ask me. Because his parents are attorneys is probably one of the reasons it occurred to him to do so. I'm in a field of work where if you don't have it documented then it didn't happen. A shame that someone gets slammed for being smart...

 

[Cape Brewing]

... and people wonder how the "PC Police" have gotten so out of control and so over the top that you can't say anything to anyone about anything any longer

 

[HoppyDaze]

Exactly. It happens a hell of a lot more then we know about, this one person just decided he couldnt take it. Maybe the fact that his parents are lawyers makes him think, and gives him a chance, at winning a lawsuit though.

It happens all the time so that makes it right? Or maybe he's making a stand? Macho/tough guy BS is something stupid people do to hide insecurities. He's not trying to rip anyone off...I'm sure he'll be fine financially, not because of this but because he's smart and motivated.

 

[finsfan]

It happens all the time so that makes it right? Or maybe he's making a stand? Macho/tough guy BS is something stupid people do to hide insecurities. He's not trying to rip anyone off...I'm sure he'll be fine financially, not because of this but because he's smart and motivated.

Not saying it makes it right, just that the media is making a bigger deal out of it then it really is. I know its the off-season though, so that doesnt help.

 

[Cape Brewing]

So you think it's suspect to document your interactions with a person who's been abusive? It's just plain smart if you ask me. Because his parents are attorneys is probably one of the reasons it occurred to him to do so. I'm in a field of work where if you don't have it documented then it didn't happen. A shame that someone gets slammed for being smart...

If Richie Incognito was ACTUALLY picking on the guy and causing a ligit "hostile environment"... okay... fine... I might see that line of thinking...

But that was my point earlier... i'm not 100% convinced that he actually was. I think there is a reasonable chance (maybe not 50% but reasonable chance) that Richie Incognito and Martin... and 80% of every other football player in the league bust each other's stones in the exact same way.... and like I said before... if you take those comments out of context, of course it is going to look horrible.

Put it this way... If I showed you a video of Incognito and Martin in a locker room and they're going back and forth with "mom jokes" and then Incognito goes with something like, "I'll remember that when I'm banging your sister later".

Is it a big deal?? No, not remotely... distasteful? sure but that's how guys talk to each other all the time.

Now... if I showed you a different video of Incognito and Martin and incognito has Martin pinned to a locker by the throat and is screaming in his face that he'll remember something "when I'm banging your sister later"... THAT is a BIG EFFIN difference.

None of us were in the locker room so we have no idea what context this stuff was said in. All we know is that he said he was going to bang his sister.... which people are flying off the deep end instantly thinking this is the worst assault in the history of ever... when... fck... i say sht worse than that to my buddies almost daily.

So now I'm going to get accused of "harrassing" my friends?? please.

 

[Cape Brewing]

It happens all the time so that makes it right? Or maybe he's making a stand? Macho/tough guy BS is something stupid people do to hide insecurities. He's not trying to rip anyone off...I'm sure he'll be fine financially, not because of this but because he's smart and motivated.

I'm ignoring you now for being even more Hoppy than usual

 

[HoppyDaze]

If Richie Incognito was ACTUALLY picking on the guy and causing a ligit "hostile environment"... okay... fine... I might see that line of thinking...

But that was my point earlier... i'm not 100% convinced that he actually was. I think there is a reasonable chance (maybe not 50% but reasonable chance) that Richie Incognito and Martin... and 80% of every other football player in the league bust each other's stones in the exact same way.... and like I said before... if you take those comments out of context, of course it is going to look horrible.

Put it this way... If I showed you a video of Incognito and Martin in a locker room and they're going back and forth with "mom jokes" and then Incognito goes with something like, "I'll remember that when I'm banging your sister later".

Is it a big deal?? No, not remotely... distasteful? sure but that's how guys talk to each other all the time.

Now... if I showed you a different video of Incognito and Martin and incognito has Martin pinned to a locker by the throat and is screaming in his face that he'll remember something "when I'm banging your sister later"... THAT is a BIG EFFIN difference.

None of us were in the locker room so we have no idea what context this stuff was said in. All we know is that he said he was going to bang his sister.... which people are flying off the deep end instantly thinking this is the worst assault in the history of ever... when... fck... i say sht worse than that to my buddies almost daily.

So now I'm going to get accused of "harrassing" my friends?? please.

Making a million assumptions to prove your point...it means you have no point.

I hate over sensitive people who are offended by anything and everything, but I really don't think that applies to this situation. He's quoted as saying he bought a gun to shoot black people...not really light hearted material

 

[HoppyDaze]

I'm ignoring you now for being even more Hoppy than usual

Hoppy = right/better

 

[day_trippr]

Hoppy = right/better

Cheers!

 

[HoppyDaze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk



Cheers!

I love that line. Which to you is probably inconceivable.

Did you guys catch that Super Bowl game?

 

[ChshreCat]

Richie Incognito is a sack of sh!t

I don't think that's fair. That sack could be useful as fertilizer. It's actually a very positive thing.

 

[HoppyDaze]

If Richie Incognito was ACTUALLY picking on the guy and causing a ligit "hostile environment"... okay... fine... I might see that line of thinking...



But that was my point earlier... i'm not 100% convinced that he actually was. I think there is a reasonable chance (maybe not 50% but reasonable chance) that Richie Incognito and Martin... and 80% of every other football player in the league bust each other's stones in the exact same way.... and like I said before... if you take those comments out of context, of course it is going to look horrible.



Put it this way... If I showed you a video of Incognito and Martin in a locker room and they're going back and forth with "mom jokes" and then Incognito goes with something like, "I'll remember that when I'm banging your sister later".



Is it a big deal?? No, not remotely... distasteful? sure but that's how guys talk to each other all the time.



Now... if I showed you a different video of Incognito and Martin and incognito has Martin pinned to a locker by the throat and is screaming in his face that he'll remember something "when I'm banging your sister later"... THAT is a BIG EFFIN difference.



None of us were in the locker room so we have no idea what context this stuff was said in. All we know is that he said he was going to bang his sister.... which people are flying off the deep end instantly thinking this is the worst assault in the history of ever... when... fck... i say sht worse than that to my buddies almost daily.



So now I'm going to get accused of "harrassing" my friends?? please.

I 100% agree with this but again after seeing some of the quotes published I don't think this situation is the same. Not saying anything is over the top if we're talking about good long time friends. Like you said some of the brutal trash we dish our good friends in an unknown context would look just as bad.

Clearly both parties weren't good friends and the awkwardness would be evident. Anyway, you're mom likes it reverse cowgirl.

 

[Punity]

I think a bigger issue is that a staff member and another unnamed Lineman were being harassed as well.

You cant compare what you and your friends do it isn't relevant to a work environment. Regardless of what you feel is harassment if Martin felt uncomfortable and wanted it to stop then it has to cease immediately.

Pouncey/Incognito/Jerry need to be dealt with by the league and severely. It doesn't matter if this is a locker room if you blatantly engage in racist and homophobic harassment in a workplace then you should not be working there anymore.

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[Cape Brewing]

if Martin felt uncomfortable and wanted it to stop then it has to cease immediately.

Was there any actual evidence that Martin wanted it to stop? Other Martin NOW saying he was harassed?

I'm honestly asking because I haven't see any reports of that.

If he went to the team and said, "this **** is too much and it needs to stop"... And it didn't.... Okay, different story but all of the interviews with players I've seen said Martin and Incognito were friends and this "harassment" stuff came out of left field to all of them.






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[Punity]

Was there any actual evidence that Martin wanted it to stop? Other Martin NOW saying he was harassed?

I'm honestly asking because I haven't see any reports of that.

If he went to the team and said, "this **** is too much and it needs to stop"... And it didn't.... Okay, different story but all of the interviews with players I've seen said Martin and Incognito were friends and this "harassment" stuff came out of left field to all of them.






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In that environment who do you go to? The coach? You already have a staff memeber engaging in that behavior how can anyone in that organization be trusted. Honestly Martin was in a rock and hard place situation. If you take the accounts at face value he was willing to entertain thoughts of suicide and that goes beyond a little locker room banter.

 

[ChshreCat]

Time for a break from debating how much of a ********* Incognito is...

 

[Punity]

Time for a break from debating how much of a ********* Incognito is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JfVuZF-T_Y

Never gets old. Its on a continuous loop in my house.

 

[h22lude]

In that environment who do you go to? The coach? You already have a staff memeber engaging in that behavior how can anyone in that organization be trusted. Honestly Martin was in a rock and hard place situation. If you take the accounts at face value he was willing to entertain thoughts of suicide and that goes beyond a little locker room banter.

Just like any other work environment. You go up. If your manager doesn't do anything, go to his manager, then to his manager and so on. Then in Martins case, you go to the NFL. If that doesn't work then you bring it to media
You don't start with media. I'm not saying what was done to him was ok or not, I'm talking more on how he handled it. There is always a path to follow and he skipped everything in the middle.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Just like any other work environment. You go up. If your manager doesn't do anything, go to his manager, then to his manager and so on. Then in Martins case, you go to the NFL. If that doesn't work then you bring it to media
You don't start with media. I'm not saying what was done to him was ok or not, I'm talking more on how he handled it. There is always a path to follow and he skipped everything in the middle.

Agreed...


... and like I keep saying... annnnnny day now, the massive freakin' lawsuit will come.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Nice try changing the topic .... I can't think of a more dominating defensive season than the Seahawks team season. The fact that they clearly had the most impressive Super Bowl win in history was merely icing.

 

[Cape Brewing]

So Ryan Dempster just ups and quits on the Sox. Odd. Not a big deal... just an unusual deal. Tough to knock the guy though since I have no idea what the family issues are that pushed him to that decision. Must be significant though to leave $13mm on the table.

 

[HoppyDaze]

And we totally care about boston baseball

 

[Cape Brewing]

And we totally care about boston baseball

Oh. Cool! I'll keep talking about it then.

What do you think they're going to do with Ortiz? He came out all hard core about a new multi year contract but seems to have backed down off of that a little. I can't see them signing him to more than one year. Then again , the guy did hit something like .720 in the freakin playoffs last year.


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[the_bird]

So Ryan Dempster just ups and quits on the Sox. Odd. Not a big deal... just an unusual deal. Tough to knock the guy though since I have no idea what the family issues are that pushed him to that decision. Must be significant though to leave $13mm on the table.

There was a pretty good chance he was going to be traded this spring, since Brandon Workman is ready to take his spot as the long reliever/spot starter, probably more effectively and at about 4% of Dempster's salary. There are family issues that I don't believe are fully public, and I think in the end he didn't want to have to deal with those issues from Milwaukee or wherever the Sox were going to end up trading him.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Oh. Cool! I'll keep talking about it then.

What do you think they're going to do with Ortiz?

Keep tampering with his is piss test results I assume...

 

[Cape Brewing]

Keep tampering with his is piss test results I assume...

.... maybe Sherman should give him some pointers.


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[Darwin18]

It's cute when Sox fans talk about baseball and their eight world series titles like we should be impressed. Get to double digits first.

 

[HoppyDaze]

that's Mr. Sherman Super Bowl Champion to you

 

[Cape Brewing]

that's Mr. Sherman Super Bowl Champion to you

My bad, I thought it was Mr. Sherman Cheater. I must be confusing him with another corner back who Brauned his was out of a PED suspension


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[Cape Brewing]

It's cute when Sox fans talk about baseball and their eight world series titles like we should be impressed. Get to double digits first.

Jeter <---- most overrated athlete in history of sport.


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[Darwin18]

Take it back!!!

 

[HoppyDaze]

My bad, I thought it was Mr. Sherman Cheater.

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Nope. Mr. Super Bowl Champion Sherman

 

[HoppyDaze]

How it's done:

Why Seahawks Dominate

 

[Darwin18]

How does it feel to know that you can gloat, nay rub it our faces, for the next 11 months or so?

 

[HoppyDaze]

I'd be lying if I told you it doesn't feel great.

 

[Darwin18]

Enjoy it! I know for almost certainty that I'll never get the opportunity.