motobrewer
I'm no atheist scientist, but...
i don't think that's accurate.
lockout next year or what!?
lockout next year or what!?
screw the owners, man. bunch of whiners.
i'd really hate to see 18 game regular season as well. i would like to see 2 preseason games disappear tho.
screw the owners, man. bunch of whiners.
i'd really hate to see 18 game regular season as well. i would like to see 2 preseason games disappear tho.
Shockingly I completely disagree with Moto....
I am 100000000% in the camp of... if the players don't like they are more than welcome to quit and go do some other job. No one is pointing a gun at Tom Brady's head and MAKING him play QB for the Patriots. It is one of the beautiful things about living in a free country. This isn't China... we don't MAKE you play football. If you don't like the rules or the "company you work for"... great... quit.... just like every other person in the country can do.
Personally... I don't really care for the 18 game schedule but if that's what the owners want... have at it... that is why they are OWNERS... they OWN the league. Again, if the players don't like it, they should quit and go do something else.
Whoever in this thread that said the Packers would need only 60 yards of rushing to win was spot on.
Pack got 50.
Did anyone else notice Joe Buck declaring that Woodson is slow getting up before the play even ended? I'm going to have to replay my dvr copy but, I swear Woodson was still in the process of hitting the turf when he said that.
It seemed really weird.
the owners own the TEAM, not the "league". they shouldn't have 100% influence on the way the game is played.
you're saying steel CEO's get to force workers into 60 hour work weeks because they own the company.
Over time, that company won't be able to staff its operations and they will have to lower their required hours.
whatever... not debating this in this thread.
you wanna spew socialist "boo hooo everyone feel bad for the workers" garbage, start a thread in the debate section.
In terms of the NFL... EFF the players. If they don't like the rules or working for the NFL, they are more than welcome to stop collecting those paychecks and go do something else.
one point in our history
we had to install protections for workers like child labor laws, 40 hr work week, safe working conditions, and the right to bargain as a collective to increase power (CBA).
The ideal of laissez faire is great.
Again... this is a debate for the debate forum.
Exactly... this isn't 1840 and we're not paying immigrants a penny a week to drive railroad spikes until they die.
Again... exactly... we have laws in place (work environment safety laws so we don't have "welders using saran wrap for sheilds", minimum wages, child labor laws, etc) to make sure those abuses are kept in check. Like I was kinda saying before... I think it is great that China is a really bad place to work but here's the slight difference... We're not China.
Not suggesting laissez faire... I'm saying I believe in a capitalist system that has a level of governmental controls that the people democratically enact (min. wage, safe work environment, etc. etc.)
Again... this is a debate for the debate forum.
As you can see from the below video, Aguilera missed the line “O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming,” instead improvising, “What so proudly we watched at the twilight’s last reaming”—turning a song about strength in the face of adversity into a perverted celebration of the evening being anally violated.
also, i can't get into the debate forum
"twilights last reaming"... that's tremedous!!!
Who was the last one to get reamed right before twilight ended???
Well then pony up! You have like 2500 posts so you obviously like it here.......
Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvIv5dh4yys&feature=player_embedded
Should have taken the over on this, too; think she clocked in at 1:55 (o/u was 1:50), and the last note she held for 12 seconds (o/u was 6).
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