Nottingham Yeast

[enderwig]

Is it even salvageable? Has anyone repitched and had good results or is this a lost cause?

I had like that from a bad pack of notty, and its just now getting kinda drinkable after 3 months in cold storage in the kegerator, it's finally starting to clear as well. Its not "good" by any means, but at least drinkable.

 

[njnear76]

I had like that from a bad pack of notty, and its just now getting kinda drinkable after 3 months in cold storage in the kegerator, it's finally starting to clear as well. Its not "good" by any means, but at least drinkable.

Sounds like it's just ruined, huh? I might keep it around for awhile, but if I need a keg, I'm dumping it. It's a shame.

 

[Memorex88]

Well I guess I won't be using this packet.

Here's pictures of what seems to be the problem.

The first one is just to show the date and batch #

and here's a light & shadow to show the possible "holes" caused by the numbers going too deep into the plastic.

*Notice on the right hand side, looks like there are 9 pin holes.*

 

[njnear76]

Memorex has the right idea. Check for extreme indentation. Perhaps a magnifying glass might be useful.

 

[iasquith]

So I have seven packets that I wont be using and decided to open one of them . first the smell was all wrong for a nottingham and grains of yeast where clinging to the sides as if there was moisture in there.
and the letters from the other side especially on the' K' of denmark where nearly punched all the way through along with some other smaller holes ?
i took a picture but I dont know how to up load it

 

[Brewing Clamper]

Well, out of 5 packets of batch #1080360088V exp 08-2010, I have one left that I did not use. I guess I'll try sending it back, but that really does suck. I've been trying to find out what was wrong with my procedure all of the sudden and it turned out to be the yeast. The last beer I made with this was a blonde Ale that had so much banana my SWMBO thought I had made a hefe when she first tried it!

 

[Memorex88]

So I have seven packets that I wont be using and decided to open one of them . first the smell was all wrong for a nottingham and grains of yeast where clinging to the sides as if there was moisture in there.
and the letters from the other side especially on the' K' of denmark where nearly punched all the way through along with some other smaller holes ?
i took a picture but I dont know how to up load it

Put the picture on a photo site like Photobucket or flickr...
Copy your link. Click on the little yellow "insert image" then paste the link of your picture. That's it.

 

[Memorex88]

Well, out of 5 packets of batch #1080360088V exp 08-2010, I have one left that I did not use. I guess I'll try sending it back, but that really does suck. I've been trying to find out what was wrong with my procedure all of the sudden and it turned out to be the yeast. The last beer I made with this was a blonde Ale that had so much banana my SWMBO thought I had made a hefe when she first tried it!

Don't send that one back. Right now they are only accepting packets with the batch #1081140118V.

I hope they spot this new batch problem. Hell, I live 10 minutes away from the company. I may just go knocking at their door with it. In the meantime, I'll be using US-05 instead.

 

[njnear76]

I have a stupid idea. Suppose after hydrating the yeast, you fill up the satchel with water. If there is a leak, it should be somewhat evident.

I think this problem goes back quite a few generations. I did not have any of the recall batch number, but I did have yeast that expired 08-2010 another that expires in 09-2010.

The yeast in my bad blonde definitely was one of those.

 

[iasquith]

to see the picture of the inside of the notty sachet follow the link
http://picasaweb.google.com/iasquith7/SachetOfNottingham#5388053583340095810

 

[daveotero]

I'm planning on using Notty for the first time for a Raspberry Chocolate Stout based on the BYO Fuller Double Chocolate Stout clone. I'm using 3# of homegrown berries and plan and giving these as gifts so I really don't wanna screw it up.

My packet doesn't match the recall but I just took some closeup pictures and it looks like it might be punctured.

What do you guys think? Should I just pitch with US-05 or pick up a packet of US-04?

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3029.jpg
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3032.jpg

 

[njnear76]

I'm planning on using Notty for the first time for a Raspberry Chocolate Stout based on the BYO Fuller Double Chocolate Stout clone. I'm using 3# of homegrown berries and plan and giving these as gifts so I really don't wanna screw it up.

My packet doesn't match the recall but I just took some closeup pictures and it looks like it might be punctured.

What do you guys think? Should I just pitch with US-05 or pick up a packet of US-04?

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3029.jpg
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3032.jpg

I'm pretty sure my bad batch was either from 09-2009 or 08-2009.

I would use US-05 to be on the safe side.

 

[jspence1]

This is such a simple fix, I can't believe its still happening. I'm a little surprised that they would use a printer that impacts the packaging.

 

[njnear76]

Yeah. A simple inked stamp would be more than adequate.

 

[Memorex88]

I'm planning on using Notty for the first time for a Raspberry Chocolate Stout based on the BYO Fuller Double Chocolate Stout clone. I'm using 3# of homegrown berries and plan and giving these as gifts so I really don't wanna screw it up.

My packet doesn't match the recall but I just took some closeup pictures and it looks like it might be punctured.

What do you guys think? Should I just pitch with US-05 or pick up a packet of US-04?

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3029.jpg
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3032.jpg

I would use US-05

 

[iasquith]

yep thats the same batch as mine with the same indentations
http://picasaweb.google.com/iasquith7/SachetOfNottingham#5388118122643282802

 

[WollenBrew]

Those indents are pretty deep... I would go with US-05.

 

[wh4tig0t]

I'm planning on using Notty for the first time for a Raspberry Chocolate Stout based on the BYO Fuller Double Chocolate Stout clone. I'm using 3# of homegrown berries and plan and giving these as gifts so I really don't wanna screw it up.

My packet doesn't match the recall but I just took some closeup pictures and it looks like it might be punctured.

What do you guys think? Should I just pitch with US-05 or pick up a packet of US-04?

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3029.jpg
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/daveotero/IMG_3032.jpg

Open the yeast and rehydrate as normal then turn the package inside out and hold it up to a bright light. If you don;t see any pinholes you may be safe. Or just us s-05, but im atleast gonnna try this with my packet.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Maybe it is coincidental but out of all the beers and ciders I have made, only the ones with Nottingham were bad. They all have a foul off taste that nothing I have ever made has.

I have 3 packs left, I'm scared to use them. I have $150 in bad notty beer and cider I still haven't tossed. My beers with S-04 were great and it is supposed to be a simular strain.

 

[Daddymem]

What gets me is they won't admit there are other batches that have the issue.

 

[The Pol]

What gets me is they won't admit there are other batches that have the issue.

Admitting fault, costs money my friend.

I am all S-05 and S-04 from here on out. Danstar is like the United Airlines of yeast now.

 

[kappclark]

I am all S-05 and S-04 from here on out. Danstar is like the United Airlines of yeast now.

No more Nottingham for me ... time to change horses...Hall0 S-05 (which started in 4 hours with a regular Cream Ale kit, but Notty took 3.5 days !!)

 

[Daddymem]

I think the tarnish to their reputation has cost them more. It will be a very long time before I trust a wort to Notty.

 

[bob1852]

sadly, I agree. Notty was one of my favorites......but I can't trust it anymore.

US 05 from now on

 

[OHIOSTEVE]

UGH!!! I Just brewed my very first beer...you guessed it I used nottingham. No more yeast except some wine yeast and the brerw store is an hour away. Hopefully mine works

 

[SteveM]

I was in my LHBS yesterday (the guy in Havertown, for you Philly area brewers). He advised that all the old Nottingham yeast regardless of batch number has been pulled and he only has new stock. I said that I will try Nottingham again once my supply of S-04 and 05 is used up.

I did note that Nottingham is still $2.00 (US) while Safale has jacked their price up to something like $4.75.

 

[The Pol]

I can get SafAle here for $2... and my LHBS charges $2.30/lb for crystal malts, so they arent cheap by any means. Is it Safale - Lallemand (sp) that is jacking the price, or the store? That is over double what I pay...

FWIW, IMHO... Id rather spend an extra buck on yeast, than lose an entire batch because I am rolling the dice with Nottingham. People have reported problems with more than just this one batch #, so I am not going to risk using Notty just because the mfg. sayes that there isnt a problem.

I mean you can get it for $2.75 at BMW. Sounds like your LHBS is making up thier "loss" on the Notty.
http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/search/safale

 

[jspence1]

As far as I can tell now that we know what to look for nottingham yeast is just as safe as any other. I would expect that they have learned their lesson and have changed their marking process. I just hope they start shipping out the replacement yeast soon.

 

[The Pol]

As far as I can tell now that we know what to look for nottingham yeast is just as safe as any other. I would expect that they have learned their lesson and have changed their marking process. I just hope they start shipping out the replacement yeast soon.

That is all well and good, unless you buy online, where you cannot inspect the packets.

 

[SteveM]

I can get SafAle here for $2... and my LHBS charges $2.30/lb for crystal malts, so they arent cheap by any means. Is it Safale - Lallemand (sp) that is jacking the price, or the store? That is over double what I pay...

FWIW, IMHO... Id rather spend an extra buck on yeast, than lose an entire batch because I am rolling the dice with Nottingham. People have reported problems with more than just this one batch #, so I am not going to risk using Notty just because the mfg. sayes that there isnt a problem.

I mean you can get it for $2.75 at BMW. Sounds like your LHBS is making up thier "loss" on the Notty.
http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/search/safale

I'm going to say this came from the company or some intermediate distributor. If the store had done it, they would have marked up their entire inventory - but they didn't (and it's really just not that kind of place). They sold off their Safale stock that was about $2.50 or so before putting out the inventory that was higher. I stocked up so I am OK for now.

If it was a distributor, then there is a work-around - buy elsewhere. If it was the company, then the higher prices are in the pipeline for everyone, so if you like Safale, think it over and consider stocking up.