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i brewed a simcoe/citra/strata neipa a couple of weeks ago. simcoe/citra hot side and citra/strata for dry hop. went 2:1 citra to strata on the dry hop. i liked this combo a lot but i did the same brew only sub in galaxy for the strata and i liked that beer much better. i do like strata but also am curios how it pairs with other hops.
 
Just tapped this 8.5% NEIPA I brewed on Jan 23rd. Flavor is good, a bit better than my last one. Aroma is "ok" I'd say, not nearly as pungent as I was hoping for. I performed a single dryhop for about 60 hours using 3/2/2 of Amarillo/Mosaic/Galaxy for this 5G (packaged) batch. Closed transfer from kegmenter to keg under CO2. Overall am pleased but looking for more aroma!

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Just tapped this 8.5% NEIPA I brewed on Jan 23rd. Flavor is good, a bit better than my last one. Aroma is "ok" I'd say, not nearly as pungent as I was hoping for. I performed a single dryhop for about 60 hours using 3/2/2 of Amarillo/Mosaic/Galaxy for this 5G (packaged) batch. Closed transfer from kegmenter to keg under CO2. Overall am pleased but looking for more aroma!

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Give it time. It’s only 10/11 days from brew day. Based on that timeframe you forced carbed it. In a week or so when more yeast and trub that got racked over to the keg drop out the aroma will pop much more. Also when a solid carb gets set it will help further.
 
Right on, thanks for the insight. I knew it would be a little green still, but I just HAD to try it. Yes, I force carb'd it, set to 29 psi for 24 hrs or so. Honestly it is still a bit under carb'd but decent.

Since this is now my favorite style, I really should get another one in the hopper so it can chill out for a while til I tap it :)
 
El Dorado is a kind of love it or hate it. It be almost artificial if used in the wrong way. I personally dont mind it.
 
Agreed on El Dorado. I'm personally a fan of Amarillo and Chinook beers though. They're nice hops to pair with some banger hops for some interesting character. Amarillo comes with nice, tasty grapefruit notes.
 
Nice extract from the US National Hop Report - see the effect you lot are having on farmers....
Amarillo is an interesting one. Think it must have been on the decline for some time now. I remember in 2011 when it really delivered exciting tangerines and tropical notes, but almost every year since it has been less and less appealing, tending towards a more spicy, tea-like, floral character. I can only assume the reason for this is that it is a low yield variety, and so the farms are letting it sit on the bine too long, resulting in it missing the ideal picking window. Shame, I'd love to brew with some good Amarillo again, for a while it was my favourite hop.
 
Amarillo is an interesting one. Think it must have been on the decline for some time now. I remember in 2011 when it really delivered exciting tangerines and tropical notes, but almost every year since it has been less and less appealing, tending towards a more spicy, tea-like, floral character. I can only assume the reason for this is that it is a low yield variety, and so the farms are letting it sit on the bine too long, resulting in it missing the ideal picking window. Shame, I'd love to brew with some good Amarillo again, for a while it was my favourite hop.
You could try the Amarillo Lupomax. It may give you what you’re looking for.
 
Just tapped this 8.5% NEIPA I brewed on Jan 23rd. Flavor is good, a bit better than my last one. Aroma is "ok" I'd say, not nearly as pungent as I was hoping for. I performed a single dryhop for about 60 hours using 3/2/2 of Amarillo/Mosaic/Galaxy for this 5G (packaged) batch. Closed transfer from kegmenter to keg under CO2. Overall am pleased but looking for more aroma!

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What was your total hop amounts for your 5g batch? looks great by the way.
 
Going to try incorporating a lot of process recommendations here for first time in my next brew - the plan is to ferment in a corny with the gas out purging my serving keg. I'm going to try hanging the dry hop in the serving keg from the start so everything stays closed. Once fermentation is finished I will chill to 50F for ~48 hours and transfer over, then crash after a a day or two.

I've got a Janish dip tube filter I'll use for transferring from fermentation keg - has anyone had an issue still with clogging that up? Also planning to spund the serving keg towards end of ferment to naturally carb and I'll leave the DH hanging in the serving keg until beer is finished. I've done a lot of semi-closed transfers and still chasing really solid aroma so I'm excited to give this a shot closed from start to finish.
 
What was your total hop amounts for your 5g batch? looks great by the way.

Magnum: 0.8 oz. first wort
Citra: 4 oz. whirlpool at about 150 for 30 minutes
Then the dryop already mentioned of 3/2/2 of Amarillo/Mosaic/Galaxy
I also meant to add 1 oz. of Citra for the last 10 minutes of the boil, but forgot it.

I looked at my notes again and it actually came in at 8.7% ABV.
 
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Going to try incorporating a lot of process recommendations here for first time in my next brew - the plan is to ferment in a corny with the gas out purging my serving keg. I'm going to try hanging the dry hop in the serving keg from the start so everything stays closed. Once fermentation is finished I will chill to 50F for ~48 hours and transfer over, then crash after a a day or two.

I've got a Janish dip tube filter I'll use for transferring from fermentation keg - has anyone had an issue still with clogging that up? Also planning to spund the serving keg towards end of ferment to naturally carb and I'll leave the DH hanging in the serving keg until beer is finished. I've done a lot of semi-closed transfers and still chasing really solid aroma so I'm excited to give this a shot closed from start to finish.

Ive Had one semi clog with the janish with a 4 or 6 oz dry hop (can’t recall). I had crashed to 45 or so and was able to transfer about half the keg before pulling air. I crashed in keezer to 30 and was able to transfer the rest. Perhaps I had my pressures too high and transferred to quickly.

I'd definitely do this all again, mind you
 
Magnum: 0.8 oz. first wort
Citra: 4 oz. whirlpool at about 150 for 30 minutes
Then the dryop already mentioned of 3/2/2 of Amarillo/Mosaic/Galaxy
I also meant to add 1 oz. of Citra for the last 10 minutes of the boil, but forgot it.

I looked at my notes again and it actually came in at 8.7% ABV.
Thanks. Sorry, I thought the 3/2/2 was ratio not ounces. Aroma in my experience usually takes a week or two before it hot's it's stride.
 
Ive Had one semi clog with the janish with a 4 or 6 oz dry hop (can’t recall). I had crashed to 45 or so and was able to transfer about half the keg before pulling air. I crashed in keezer to 30 and was able to transfer the rest. Perhaps I had my pressures too high and transferred to quickly.

I'd definitely do this all again, mind you
I am a little nervous about this. I just bought one of the diptube filters and I’m planning to use it soon, but haven’t done so yet. I typically do fairly large dry hops in the range of 8 to 12 ounces. I’m crossing my fingers hoping everything goes smoothly and I don’t have to deal with any clogs. I’ve seen some others say that they’ve never experienced a clog using the Janish filter, but I’m still a little apprehensive trying it for the first time.
 
Amarillo is an interesting one. Think it must have been on the decline for some time now. I remember in 2011 when it really delivered exciting tangerines and tropical notes, but almost every year since it has been less and less appealing, tending towards a more spicy, tea-like, floral character. I can only assume the reason for this is that it is a low yield variety, and so the farms are letting it sit on the bine too long, resulting in it missing the ideal picking window. Shame, I'd love to brew with some good Amarillo again, for a while it was my favourite hop.
Its interesting you noted the "floral" component. A while ago I was going for an orange themed beer and was planning on taking Columbus, Citra, Idaho 7, and Mandarina Bavaria. MB was going to be my main dry hop but the MB didn't smell very good at all. So at the suggestion of others here, I went with amarillo instead. In the end it was a very good orange flavored beer but I noticed a distinct floral characteristic as well that was not present in the hydro sample pre-dry hop and amarillo wasn't in the hot side at all and had a big dose int he DH. It wasn't spicy though. It was still a solid beer, the floral notes weren't distracting but actually gave it a nice depth/complexity along with the overall orange profile I was trying to achieve. The amarillo smelled great out of the bag too but I didn't get that "floralness" when I smelled them. But again, my nose is still "in training" lol.
 
I definitely think it was a little speed related. when i use it as a ferm keg and serving keg for the same batch it works perfectly, draining it completely, but if course only pulling one to a few beers a time when doing that. I've never had an issue clogging then. It was only the one dry hop needing a little more compaction. Other dry hops worked okay too.

Actually know that i think about it, i had one other issue with fruit, apricots in a number 9 clone, that also left a lot of beer behind. that time i was in a rush and didnt crash it again, nor did i really care about capturing every last drop.

I dont have it in one of my active kegs at the moment, but perhaps i will stop using it as a ferm keg and start using it as a dry hop/ serving keg only, where i wont have to transfer off. It might be biased, but I dont think I get the same aroma pulling with a CBDS above the hops as I do pulling through the hop bed
 
So, just an update. This beer was kegged exactly a week ago and this short pour was the first taste Ive had since keg day (BTW Im VERY proud of myself for that patience! - the key is to have plenty of other beers instead lol). Anyways, this is a great combo! just like keg day, its not harsh at all, zero hop burn. only 7 days post keg so I know the characters may still shift some. But this is great! A great fruity combo, it has nice white wine notes (thank you nelson!) with restrained but present NZ diesel up front with a strong galaxy passionfruit sweetness to finish! I imagine, based on previous experience with Riwaka, Nelson and Galaxy (not all together though) is that the NZ diesel will start to fade a little but the galaxy passionfruit finish will intensify (or at least be more prominent comparatively speaking).

Here's the cool thing: Im sipping this right next to my riwaka single hop pale ale for comparison and I definitively taste the fruity/citrus part of riwaka that I get from my pale ale in this NEIPA. Its obviously not at the forefront but its definitely present which is impressive considering I went with riwaka at 10min boil and WP (no riwaka included in DH) and my DH was exclusively Nelson (2.5oz) and Galaxy (5.5oz). I would love to see a "survivable" chart like YCH put out a little while ago with Riwaka (and other NZ/AU hops) included. Seems to me that Riwaka is a fantastic WP hop with flavor that comes through to the final product.

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I definitely think it was a little speed related. when i use it as a ferm keg and serving keg for the same batch it works perfectly, draining it completely, but if course only pulling one to a few beers a time when doing that. I've never had an issue clogging then. It was only the one dry hop needing a little more compaction. Other dry hops worked okay too.

Actually know that i think about it, i had one other issue with fruit, apricots in a number 9 clone, that also left a lot of beer behind. that time i was in a rush and didnt crash it again, nor did i really care about capturing every last drop.

I dont have it in one of my active kegs at the moment, but perhaps i will stop using it as a ferm keg and start using it as a dry hop/ serving keg only, where i wont have to transfer off. It might be biased, but I dont think I get the same aroma pulling with a CBDS above the hops as I do pulling through the hop bed
I guess my concern is wether or not it will get clogged during the transfer if the hop mass/sludge on the bottom of the keg is higher than the end of the diptube. Yes, the diptube is covered by the filter, but will it pull the beer through the hop bed or get stuck and clog?
 
I guess my concern is wether or not it will get clogged during the transfer if the hop mass/sludge on the bottom of the keg is higher than the end of the diptube. Yes, the diptube is covered by the filter, but will it pull the beer through the hop bed or get stuck and clog?
No. The filter will not clog. The limiting factor was the rate the beer would flow through the hop sludge. They had absorbed too much.

Even the fruit example. It never truly clogged
 
I guess my concern is wether or not it will get clogged during the transfer if the hop mass/sludge on the bottom of the keg is higher than the end of the diptube. Yes, the diptube is covered by the filter, but will it pull the beer through the hop bed or get stuck and clog?
I have problems with this filter setup if not cold crashing long enough, 12h is the minimum but better 24h. I cut my diptube a little bit im quiet sure its lower then the hops sometimes but havent had issues
 
I have tried different filters and bags. They all let hop particles through to some extend. I found the best solution is to cut the dip tube so it does not goes down into the sediments. And skip the filters.
 
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Here’s my results with some strata and Bru-1

50% Pilsner
20% GP
25% malted oats
5% malted wheat

Hotside: Strata, Bru-1, mosaic

DH: Strata, Citra, Strata, Bru-1

All hops used a full 2oz package, 14oz total.

Verdant IPA at 70. 1.058 - 1.011

Aroma is punchy sweet mango, pineapple and a little cream. Taste is big time pineapple, citrus and just a touch grassy.

My buddy couldn’t believe there wasn’t pineapple juice added to the keg. I really love it.

This was 8oz of dry hop all in primary which is a 10 gallon keg with a Janish filter and the dip tube cut to leave 3L of dead space, which I find perfect for a 8-10oz dry hop. I’ve never had a clog and I’ve even transferred out of this without a good cold crash. @HopsAreGood

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Hotside: Strata, Bru-1, mosaic

DH: Strata, Citra, Strata, Bru-1

That's awesome. I'm planning to brew with almost exact hops as you did. Might actually use those same hops since your aroma and taste description sounds absolutely delicious 🤤 Could you post what kind of amounts/ratio of hops did you use during hotside and DH?
 
Question for you guys. I followed OP's advice and did a single dry hop on day 3 at high krausen. It's now day 7 and I believe I'm close to final gravity at 1.012. I tasted a the gravity sample and it tasted extremely bitter and "hot". Like it burned my tongue. Yeast used was cellar science "cali" yeast which I believe is just chico. How long am I good to let this thing mellow out with the hops in there? I've always steered towards a 24-48 dry hop, so no experience with DH'ing this early. Thanks in advance!
 
Question for you guys. I followed OP's advice and did a single dry hop on day 3 at high krausen. It's now day 7 and I believe I'm close to final gravity at 1.012. I tasted a the gravity sample and it tasted extremely bitter and "hot". Like it burned my tongue. Yeast used was cellar science "cali" yeast which I believe is just chico. How long am I good to let this thing mellow out with the hops in there? I've always steered towards a 24-48 dry hop, so no experience with DH'ing this early. Thanks in advance!
You are experiencing hop burn. That’s what happens dryhoping during fermentation. Many participants in this thread have deviated their processes from the original recipe.

you need to cold condition your beer until it goes away
 
Tapped the latest hazy and it’s delicious. Made some slight modifications to my original grist and happy with the results. Bru-1, Azacca, and Sabro is a winning combo. Next batch, I’ll replace the Sabro with El Dorado. This beer is bursting with ripe pineapple, peach, and mango. It’s easy drinking at 5.5%.
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36IBUs
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Bru-1, Azacca, Sabro
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3rd Generation yeast starter of London Ale 1318
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Made the recipe public for those interested in brewing it.

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homeb...02-golden-haze-ipa-bru-1-azacca-sabro-/370629
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I got a bunch of HBC 630 from YCH sensory evaluation a few months back, and the candied cherry smell it had during the rub got me really excited to brew with it. Online resources include these descriptors: "Sweet Fruits and Berries like Raspberry and Cherry, along with sweet candy-like esters and lactones giving creamy notes of peach and banana. "

5 Gal batch:
80% 2-row
10% White Wheat
10% Malted Oats

1oz HBC522 @ 10min

2oz HBC630 @ WP 165F
1oz Citra @ WP 165F

DH @ 60F at about 9 days
4oz HBC630
5oz Citra

Tasting notes:
Aroma - big candied orange and peaches, in line with what I got from smelling the hops.
Flavor - definitely candied pineapple with some mandarin notes, but I was not impressed by the final product 2 weeks after kegging. It was just missing that explosive flavor component that you'd get from most of the banger hops. I kept thinking it'll mellow out, but it just didn't... Maybe doing a single dry hop as opposed to my usual 2-step process is what had the less than desired impact here?

At any rate, after about 2 weeks I added 2oz HBC692 (Talus) and 1oz Citra to keg in a muslin bag and ooo-wee, this beer took off. It's basically a big pineapple in a glass now. I sense some peaches or peach rings as I drink through a pint, but the sweet pineapple is totally unstoppable and unmistakable, it dominates flavor and aroma at this point. Highly recommend.

(pic from a couple weeks ago, don't judge my tree)
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Tapped the latest hazy and it’s delicious. Made some slight modifications to my original grist and happy with the results. Bru-1, Azacca, and Sabro is a winning combo. Next batch, I’ll replace the Sabro with El Dorado. This beer is bursting with ripe pineapple, peach, and mango. It’s easy drinking at 5.5%.
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36IBUs
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Bru-1, Azacca, Sabro
.
3rd Generation yeast starter of London Ale 1318
.
Made the recipe public for those interested in brewing it.

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homeb...02-golden-haze-ipa-bru-1-azacca-sabro-/370629View attachment 717511

That glass is cool as hell! Beer looks good too :mug:
 
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