New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Braufessor]

So I have to brew this tomorrow, is there anything from the grocery store that can be added in substitute for the honey malt? Could I just add honey?
Thanks,

No - don't add honey... that will just dry it out and will not leave any sweetness or honey flavor. Honey malt adds a bit of sweetness - not the end of the world if you don't have it. It is also 25L for color/caramel..... So, maybe just add a bit more caramel or crystal malt. Instead of 1/4 pound honey malt add a 1/4 pound crystal 20-30-40 range.

 

[LJvermonster]

No - don't add honey... that will just dry it out and will not leave any sweetness or honey flavor. Honey malt adds a bit of sweetness - not the end of the world if you don't have it. It is also 25L for color/caramel..... So, maybe just add a bit more caramel or crystal malt. Instead of 1/4 pound honey malt add a 1/4 pound crystal 20-30-40 range.

Crystal 20 it is. I assume using all MO isn't going make or break this recipe either, right? I don't have an 2 row on hand. Cheers!

 

[Braufessor]

MO will be fine.

 

[jjbrewhouse]

Yeah, wow, if that person is a BJCP Judge, he/she needs to work on it a bit and put in some more effort. I'd be a little pissed if I got that scoresheet back.

It was a competition at the local homebrew store, the judges were Brewers from local breweries. The contest was not held to BJCP style guidelines

 

[cegan09]

some interesting observations. I opened a bottle from my first batch, and second batch tonight. They are visually very different despite being the exact same recipe (the one from the first post). First batch has been in the bottle for about 4 weeks. Second batch just shy of 2 weeks.

The second batch is bright, orange, much clearer. It's still hazy, but you can see your fingers through it when the level is low. Even without the direct overhead lighting it's a bright orange.

The older batch is darker, and way more hazy. I can't see through it at all, and without direct lighting it's more brown than orange.

Both used the same recipe, both fermented the same way (brewpi controlled fridge using the same beer profile). The only difference was double bittering addition in the first batch. I'm curious what I may have done differently. between the two. Or maybe this is just how it ages out. I guess I'll see as the second batch reaches the same age.


Please ignore my messy desk. I've been thrashing trying to get some projects done lately.

 

[Braufessor]

Age/oxygen can darken a beer. How do they taste compared to each other - I guess that is probably the bigger question.
Could be how the yeast dropped out of one during fermentation compared to the other possibly. (Did you reuse yeast??) Second, third generation yeast will act a bit different than first generation.
My beers are like you describe - they are hazy.... not cloudy and definitely not yeasty/murky.

 

[cegan09]

They taste different, but I expect them to since the first batch had too much warrior. The second batch has more aroma and a better taste. Did not reuse yeast, both were a fresh WYeast 1318 pack.

I'm really not worried they are different. I'm a new brewer still, so it was more trying to learn what may have happened to do better in the future.

 

[Madmannvan]

Brewed the recipe from op minus the water treatment as I use spring water and don't have a water report on it. Everything went great OG was 1.057. Used gigayeast Vermont IPA and it is bubbling away happily.

My question is, I am fermenting in a corny keg and want to use a hop bag for the first dry hope before I transfer to 2nd dry hop keg. Is this a good idea or should I just dump the hops into the keg?
I was hoping to brew a second batch with cacl/gypsum and reuse the yeast cake, to see how it changed the flavor.

Thanks

 

[Braufessor]

Brewed the recipe from op minus the water treatment as I use spring water and don't have a water report on it. Everything went great OG was 1.057. Used gigayeast Vermont IPA and it is bubbling away happily.

My question is, I am fermenting in a corny keg and want to use a hop bag for the first dry hope before I transfer to 2nd dry hop keg. Is this a good idea or should I just dump the hops into the keg?
I was hoping to brew a second batch with cacl/gypsum and reuse the yeast cake, to see how it changed the flavor.

Thanks

Use a hop bag for that first dry hop (a nice big one to let the hops expand).
Do this for 2 reasons -
1.) If you throw the hops in loose, you will plug that keg up for sure when you try to transfer.
2.) You want to reuse the yeast - not that it is the end of the world if there is some trub and hop material in the yeast - but no point in adding even more debris to the yeast you want to reuse.

 

[Madmannvan]

Ok perfect that was my initial thought but this is my first time using the corny as a fermentor and wasn't sure about it

 

[Braufessor]

Ok perfect that was my initial thought but this is my first time using the corny as a fermentor and wasn't sure about it

Another trick you can use is to use a piece of flat dental floss (Not flavored/minty) or small diameter fishing line (2lb test) and run it out through the lid of fermenter when you dry hop. That way you can tie the hop bag so it can only sink about 1/2 to 2/3 down in the beer. That way when you transfer your beer, the hop bag will not get sucked against the dip tube and plug it up. Or, you can just pull the hop bag back out all together before transferring.

 

[hezagenius]

Racked to the dry hop keg last night. FG was about 1.012. Aroma was off the charts. It reminded me of a super tropical Todd the Axe Man. I used 3.5oz Citra and 1.5oz Mosaic in the dry hop keg. I can't wait to try this. The Mosaic was really coming through on the sample.

I transferred on day 11.

 

[Braufessor]

I have 4 versions that are all in the pipeline -
1 - The recipe from the original post is carbed and on tap for about a week
2 - Same as Original - but Simcoe/Amarillo/Centennial in = amounts for boil and whirl pool. 1.5 ounces each of Simcoe and amarillo in the dry hops. Kegged last night and carbing.
3 - 1.065 version with Citra/Eureka/Columbus in 1:1:1 ratio..... Got its first dry hop on saturday....Dry hop keg tomorrow.... will see how it tastes and do final dry hop accordingly.
4 -1.060 version Citra/Columbus/Galaxy in 1.5 to 1 to .5 ratio..... Brewed on Sunday.

Might try a couple Amber Ales next with some of the same principles..... see how these last couple are coming around.

 

[Madmannvan]

Another trick you can use is to use a piece of flat dental floss (Not flavored/minty) or small diameter fishing line (2lb test) and run it out through the lid of fermenter when you dry hop. That way you can tie the hop bag so it can only sink about 1/2 to 2/3 down in the beer. That way when you transfer your beer, the hop bag will not get sucked against the dip tube and plug it up. Or, you can just pull the hop bag back out all together before transferring.

Ok thanks[emoji106] I saw a picture on another thread where someone hung a hop bag from the pressure release on the under side of the lid using a piece of string and a hose clamp. I think I'll give that a go. Super excited about this one the OG sample smelt and tasted amazing and there is still more hops to go can't wait to drink it

 

[Madmannvan]

Double post

 

[Madmannvan]

Sorry for double post

 

[mikeroesoft]

I have 4 versions that are all in the pipeline -
1 - The recipe from the original post is carbed and on tap for about a week
2 - Same as Original - but Simcoe/Amarillo/Centennial in = amounts for boil and whirl pool. 1.5 ounces each of Simcoe and amarillo in the dry hops. Kegged last night and carbing.
3 - 1.065 version with Citra/Eureka/Columbus in 1:1:1 ratio..... Got its first dry hop on saturday....Dry hop keg tomorrow.... will see how it tastes and do final dry hop accordingly.
4 -1.060 version Citra/Columbus/Galaxy in 1.5 to 1 to .5 ratio..... Brewed on Sunday.

Might try a couple Amber Ales next with some of the same principles..... see how these last couple are coming around.

What's the recipe for the 1.065 version? Or did you just up everything proportionally?

 

[Projectfdw]

I have 4 versions that are all in the pipeline -
1 - The recipe from the original post is carbed and on tap for about a week
2 - Same as Original - but Simcoe/Amarillo/Centennial in = amounts for boil and whirl pool. 1.5 ounces each of Simcoe and amarillo in the dry hops. Kegged last night and carbing.
3 - 1.065 version with Citra/Eureka/Columbus in 1:1:1 ratio..... Got its first dry hop on saturday....Dry hop keg tomorrow.... will see how it tastes and do final dry hop accordingly.
4 -1.060 version Citra/Columbus/Galaxy in 1.5 to 1 to .5 ratio..... Brewed on Sunday.

Might try a couple Amber Ales next with some of the same principles..... see how these last couple are coming around.

How do you possibly drink that much? Give a lot away? 500lbs? I gotta know

 

[stickyfinger]

How do you possibly drink that much? Give a lot away? 500lbs? I gotta know

yeah, let's see your home bar, Brau.!

 

[EMH5]

I have 4 versions that are all in the pipeline -
1 - The recipe from the original post is carbed and on tap for about a week
2 - Same as Original - but Simcoe/Amarillo/Centennial in = amounts for boil and whirl pool. 1.5 ounces each of Simcoe and amarillo in the dry hops. Kegged last night and carbing.
3 - 1.065 version with Citra/Eureka/Columbus in 1:1:1 ratio..... Got its first dry hop on saturday....Dry hop keg tomorrow.... will see how it tastes and do final dry hop accordingly.
4 -1.060 version Citra/Columbus/Galaxy in 1.5 to 1 to .5 ratio..... Brewed on Sunday.

Might try a couple Amber Ales next with some of the same principles..... see how these last couple are coming around.

Have you ever tried Citra-Mosaic-Simcoe?
I just finished Citra-Amarillo-Centennial and it's almost tapped. It was CTZ to bitter (.75) Citra (5) Amarillo (4) Centennial (1) I loved it.

 

[Braufessor]

yeah, let's see your home bar, Brau.!

I have plenty of thirsty friends, we have coworkers, neighbors, friends over somewhat often, and I fill growlers for people now and then..... Oh, and I probably have 2-4 a day as well. Gotta keep the taps full

 

[Braufessor]

Here is another.

 

[PeteNMA]

Nice

 

[brew703]

Here is another.

I sure wish you lived close.
On the plus side, I'm pretty much the only one who drinks my brew. My wife will drink some but all my friends drink the standard crap.

 

[brew703]

Here is another.

I like your bar area. Are you using a keezer or a kegerator?

 

[stickyfinger]

Here is another.

I KNEW IT! He has a nice bar and gives away a ****-ton of class A homebrew, like pearls, to the NE Iowa swine!!

 

[stickyfinger]

I have plenty of thirsty friends, we have coworkers, neighbors, friends over somewhat often, and I fill growlers for people now and then..... Oh, and I probably have 2-4 a day as well. Gotta keep the taps full

I KNEW IT! He has a nice bar and gives away a ****-ton of class A homebrew, like pearls, to the NE Iowa swine!!

 

[stickyfinger]

I have plenty of thirsty friends, we have coworkers, neighbors, friends over somewhat often, and I fill growlers for people now and then..... Oh, and I probably have 2-4 a day as well. Gotta keep the taps full

I KNEW IT! He has a nice bar and gives away a ****-ton of class A homebrew, like pearls, to the NE Iowa swine!!

 

[stickyfinger]

I knew it! He spreads class A homebrew, like pearls before NE Iowa swine!!!

 

[stickyfinger]

oops, damn iPad app, sorry!