New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Dwaynehaze]

Anybody ever use nzh 214 in a hazy?

 

[kurds_2408]

Thanks. It's a great hop combo so have you to thank there. Went with your recommendation of 1:1:1 Riwaka: Citra Cryo: Nelson. I'd over analysed the beer so much I convinced myself it wasn't very good. First time using Riwaka and it's beautiful, bangs of NZ goodness. I got 24 Nelson from hop alliance and it's a bit underwhelming again. Hasn't got that horrible woody/vegetable character that the 23 crop from YVH had but still lacking that real diesel vibe from a few years ago.

Coastal haze is a great yeast too, finished exactly where I wanted. Here's the recipe if anyone is interested.

OG 1.084 FG 1.021
Coastal Haze Gen 1

Low Colour Golden Promise 69%
Oat Malt 11%
Flaked Oats 9%
Chit 6%
Spelt 5%

Is the 1:1:1 with Cryo? So 1:2:1 if not using Cryo?
I still haven’t nailed a house hazy for my rotation so definitely want to try this.

 

[wepeeler]

Got gold over the weekend with a score of 44 for this Rakau/Citra cryo/Nelson. Got about half way through best of shoe before getting eliminated. Delighted with the result, highest score ever in a competition too.

Very happy with the beer, has great hop saturation and Rakau is a beautiful hop. First time using Coastal Haze too. Love it's profile, best body and mouthfeel I've ever had in one of my beers. Thanks @Dgallo for the hop combination

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Coastal Haze!!! (Great job in the comp!)

 

[aaronm13]

Is the 1:1:1 with Cryo? So 1:2:1 if not using Cryo?
I still haven’t nailed a house hazy for my rotation so definitely want to try this.

I wouldn't say exactly 1:2:1 but more like 1:1.5:1

The Rakau was very potent in this beer, probably should have use so T90 citra in the mix too, to bring out more citra goodness.

 

[aaronm13]

Coastal Haze!!! (Great job in the comp!)

Thanks for the tips on it. Beautiful yeast.

 

[rhoadsst]

Took about a 6 month hiatus from brewing because I was getting discouraged by my brews (mostly with this style). Did more research, upgraded some equipment and decided to give it a try again. Glad I did because this is probably the best beer I’ve ever made. Cheers to you all, I got some great info from this forum. Feels good to get back into the hobby and enjoy it again.

 

[ihavenonickname]

@rhoadsst man that’s one of the most encouraging posts! What are the changes that made a difference for you? The learning process on brewing is really cool to hear about!

 

[rhoadsst]

@rhoadsst man that’s one of the most encouraging posts! What are the changes that made a difference for you? The

My last NEIPA I ended up having to dump the keg so did a deep dive into a lot of different aspects. Looked at what I thought worked and more importantly didn't work in my past brews. Tweaked the water profile. I changed up the grain bill based on what @Genuine posted (thanks man). Wort pH and getting better efficiency out of the system I use. Whirlpool/hopstand @ 170 for about 30 minutes. I had some Citra, Simcoe and Azacca still lying around so used those and happy with that combo. I got a great deal on a barely used tri-conical fermzilla so being able to dry hop (after dumping the yeast) and transfer oxygen free I think made a big difference. Overall just reading what has worked for others was a huge help.

 

[YeastFeast]

Coastal Haze!!! (Great job in the comp!)

The last 2 times I’ve placed in a Hazy category (bronze & gold), I’ve used Coastal Haze.
Doesn’t mean a heck of a lot but using it can’t hurt!

 

[Dgallo]

The last 2 times I’ve placed in a Hazy category (bronze & gold), I’ve used Coastal Haze.
Doesn’t mean a heck of a lot but using it can’t hurt!

Coastal haze it’s white labs Conan and Sach trois blend. It’s their equivalent to Imperial - Dryhop A24. I really enjoy dryhop but haven’t used it in the past year or so

 

[aaronm13]

Coastal haze it’s white labs Conan and Sach trois blend. It’s their equivalent to Imperial - Dryhop A24. I really enjoy dryhop but haven’t used it in the past year or so

I've only used Coastal Haze once but it behaves pretty differently to A24. A24 is a lot more attenuating, always finished in the low teens for me where CH finished at 1.021 with the same mash temperature. A24 also has a much quicker ferment, 3/4 done in 36-48 hours where CH was closer to a week to be fully done. All Imperial yeast's have finished super quick for me. This beer with CH has a much creamier finish but I'm sure the increased body from the higher FG is helping there. Flavour profile does seem pretty similar. Will be interesting to see how CH performs on future generations for me.

 

[Dgallo]

I've only used Coastal Haze once but it behaves pretty differently to A24. A24 is a lot more attenuating, always finished in the low teens for me where CH finished at 1.021 with the same mash temperature. A24 also has a much quicker ferment, 3/4 done in 36-48 hours where CH was closer to a week to be fully done. All Imperial yeast's have finished super quick for me. This beer with CH has a much creamier finish but I'm sure the increased body from the higher FG is helping there. Flavour profile does seem pretty similar. Will be interesting to see how CH performs on future generations for me.

Haven’t used Coastal haze so I can’t speak from any experience, I’m just going off the strains in the blend. Coastal is STA1+ as well with the same sacc trois strain as dryhop uses, so it should behave pretty similarly from an attenuation standpoint. White labs claims 76-82% attenuation for coastal and imperial claims 74-78% for dryhop, so ending in the 1.020 would be an uncommon experience for a single or double ipa with this strain.

You may of gotten a slightly older bag of coastal so that the Conan did the bulk of fermentation and the sac trios cell count was lower so the sta1 didn’t effect the composition of the sugars prior to you packaging

 

[aaronm13]

Haven’t used Coastal haze so I can’t speak from any experience, I’m just going off the strains in the blend. Coastal is STA1+ as well with the same sacc trois strain as dryhop uses, so it should behave pretty similarly from an attenuation standpoint. White labs claims 76-82% attenuation for coastal and imperial claims 74-78% for dryhop, so ending in the 1.020 would be an uncommon experience for a single or double ipa with this strain.

You may of gotten a slightly older bag of coastal so that the Conan did the bulk of fermentation and the sac trios cell count was lower so the sta1 didn’t effect the composition of the sugars prior to you packaging

That's the beauty of homebrew, so many different variables that no two brewers will experience the same results. The Coastal Haze I got was very fresh but can't remember what age the A24 was. Wondering on the last brew did it go a bit weird on me with how low it went.

White Labs is easier and cheaper for me to get so I'll go with this strain for a while, till I get board with it anyway and need to experiment again.

 

[YeastFeast]

My last 3 Coastal Haze performances, all Hazy IPAs but slightly grain bill:

March 2022: 1.072-1.018
March 2023: 1.062-1.014
March 2025: 1.080-1.023

Of course, each had a different age on the yeast, different starting gravities, all stir plate starters...so many variables though...

 

[Dwaynehaze]

Kegged this beer about 3 weeks ago or so now I believe and it came out as my best hazy to date which I attribute a lot to using my new 6 gallon torpedo keg as a dry hop vessel. Big shout-out to dgallo for answering so many damn questions for me over the last couple years and helping me dial things in

Used imperial juice and came out to 6.3%. Hate to be that guy but I suck at pictures and it looks a lot better in person. Also need some non branded glasses for my own brews but for now enjoy the imprint one I used.

66.7% Pilsen
15.4% flaked oats
15.4 white wheat
And some rice hills naturally

Small ctz mash hop charge
WP was mostly citra and some lupomax citra

Dh was citra riwaka nz cascade and a bit of lupomax citra. It was a tiny bit green but went away after about a week and I love it now. Getting a lot of lemon little bit of grapefruit mixed with that classic citra taste. Seriously hope I can replicate the amount of lemon I got from it because I love it.

Next up is a double for the reading pretzel fest happening April 26th. Gonna be mostly nelson and citra with a little Galaxy I got from MHA that actually smells pretty good (crossing my fingers on that)

 

[wepeeler]

I've only used Coastal Haze once but it behaves pretty differently to A24. A24 is a lot more attenuating, always finished in the low teens for me where CH finished at 1.021 with the same mash temperature. A24 also has a much quicker ferment, 3/4 done in 36-48 hours where CH was closer to a week to be fully done. All Imperial yeast's have finished super quick for me. This beer with CH has a much creamier finish but I'm sure the increased body from the higher FG is helping there. Flavour profile does seem pretty similar. Will be interesting to see how CH performs on future generations for me.

Haven’t used Coastal haze so I can’t speak from any experience, I’m just going off the strains in the blend. Coastal is STA1+ as well with the same sacc trois strain as dryhop uses, so it should behave pretty similarly from an attenuation standpoint. White labs claims 76-82% attenuation for coastal and imperial claims 74-78% for dryhop, so ending in the 1.020 would be an uncommon experience for a single or double ipa with this strain.

You may of gotten a slightly older bag of coastal so that the Conan did the bulk of fermentation and the sac trios cell count was lower so the sta1 didn’t effect the composition of the sugars prior to you packaging

That's the beauty of homebrew, so many different variables that no two brewers will experience the same results. The Coastal Haze I got was very fresh but can't remember what age the A24 was. Wondering on the last brew did it go a bit weird on me with how low it went.

White Labs is easier and cheaper for me to get so I'll go with this strain for a while, till I get board with it anyway and need to experiment again.

Coastal Haze is an absolute beast for me. Performs much differently than Conan alone and definitely different than A24. It absolutely rips through my wort, usually in less than 3 days. Typically 78% @68F. I shoot for a 1.070 OG and routinely get 1.015 FG. Seems like it would be dry, but it's actually a nice round mouthfeel, and the DH makes her juicy I can't seem to get away from it for hazies, but I'm going to give SO4 a shot very soon.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I agree completely about coastal haze, I've earned 2 blue ribbons and a best in show recently with my hazy and I've been using coastal haze exclusively for a few years now. I had tried a few others before settling on coastal haze and now I overbuild my starter and keep some, currently on my 4th generation with this round. The beer that scored 43 and 44 in the comps was the 3rd generation.

 

[wepeeler]

I agree completely about coastal haze, I've earned 2 blue ribbons and a best in show recently with my hazy and I've been using coastal haze exclusively for a few years now. I had tried a few others before settling on coastal haze and now I overbuild my starter and keep some, currently on my 4th generation with this round. The beer that scored 43 and 44 in the comps was the 3rd generation.

Hell yeah man! Good job! I got to a mini BoS but got bumped before the final. I too got a 43 and the 1st place winner got a 42

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Thanks man, and nice job too, those mini BoS are tough.

 

[BongoYodeler]

Interesting discussion, and relevant for me at this time as well. I probably drink more IPA's than any other style, but I'm really just beginning to brew them. I have a recipe all planned out for my first hazy, but I'm still waffling on which yeast to use. I'll have to place an online order for whichever yeast I decide to go with, and I can choose from Wyeast, White Labs, or Imperial. I'm thinking 1318, A38 Juice, or Coastal Haze, but I'm leaning towards 1318 for this first go-round.

 

[wepeeler]

Interesting discussion, and relevant for me at this time as well. I probably drink more IPA's than any other style, but I'm really just beginning to brew them. I have a recipe all planned out for my first hazy, but I'm still waffling on which yeast to use. I'll have to place an online order for whichever yeast I decide to go with, and I can choose from Wyeast, White Labs, or Imperial. I'm thinking 1318, A38 Juice, or Coastal Haze, but I'm leaning towards 1318 for this first go-round.

Honestly, I would any of those yeasts over 1318.

 

[Dgallo]

Certainly not my greatest picture, bad lighting today with cloud cover again.

HAZY TIPA at 10.1% featuring freestyle rakau, freestyle Nelson and citra cryo & lupomax.

Also, I’m back on instagram after a 2+ year hiatus https://www.instagram.com/bantam_brews?igsh=MW9pazE3cjB4d3F4Yw==&utm_source=qr

 

[Ulisses4677]

Not to steal any thunder from thread but this single decocted helles turned out stellar after 3m lagering.

 

[Ulisses4677]

Certainly not my greatest picture, bad lighting today with cloud cover again.

HAZY TIPA at 10.1% featuring freestyle rakau, freestyle Nelson and citra cryo & lupomax.

Also, I’m back on instagram after a 2+ year hiatus https://www.instagram.com/bantam_brews?igsh=MW9pazE3cjB4d3F4Yw==&utm_source=qr
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24 rakau is phenomenal

 

[Dwaynehaze]

24 rakau is phenomenal

Just got some from MHA and it actually smelled decent. Haven't used it yet at all so gonna throw it in my next beer I brew

 

[BongoYodeler]

Honestly, I would any of those yeasts over 1318.

Why is that? Personal preference, or some other reason? Seems to me there’s a lot of folks using that yeast for neipa’s.

 

[Dgallo]

24 rakau is phenomenal

Very peachie/ stone fruit. Worked great with Nelson and Conan yeast

 

[Dgallo]

Why is that? Personal preference, or some other reason? Seems to me there’s a lot of folks using that yeast for neipa’s.

from my experience, all beers brewed with laIII taste and smell the very similar and don’t showcase the hopes.

That being said you can make a great beer with it and if you’re still trying to develop a hazy I don’t see anything wrong using it. I still do time to time.

That also being said, as you continue to improve on your recipe and change hops up, I think you’ll start noticing some yeast strains let hops shine more than other and will settle on a strain that gives you the best of all worlds—mouthfeel, haze, attenuation target, and flavor. Some of these attributes youll just have to determine based on your own preference

 

[aaronm13]

24 rakau is phenomenal

I agree, it's unreal, just wish I got more.

 

[aaronm13]

Certainly not my greatest picture, bad lighting today with cloud cover again.

HAZY TIPA at 10.1% featuring freestyle rakau, freestyle Nelson and citra cryo & lupomax.

Also, I’m back on instagram after a 2+ year hiatus https://www.instagram.com/bantam_brews?igsh=MW9pazE3cjB4d3F4Yw==&utm_source=qr
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Looks beautiful as always.