New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Shenanigans]

Hey Guys,
I want to brew another NEIPA soon.
I have the capability to mash enough grains for 10 gallons but only want 5 gallons NEIPA.
Have any of you every split the wort from an NEIPA and used the other half for another type of beer?

I was thinking of some kind of Belgian yeast with about 30 IBUs but would be open to other ideas.

Thanks!

 

[Langerz]

Hey Guys,
I want to brew another NEIPA soon.
I have the capability to mash enough grains for 10 gallons but only want 5 gallons NEIPA.
Have any of you every split the wort from an NEIPA and used the other half for another type of beer?

I was thinking of some kind of Belgian yeast with about 30 IBUs but would be open to other ideas.

Thanks!

Definitely interested in thoughts here. I'm soon upgrading from 5 gallon to 10 gallon brewing. I'm kind of in a spot where overall I can't brew enough with 5 gallons to keep up, but I probably also don't go through NEIPAs fast enough for 10 gallons to be fresh.

My plan had been to do 10 of other styles I'm not as concerned with freshness and still do 5 gallons for NEIPAs. I think I like your idea better though. Seems like you'd likely have to do two boils which would make a longer brew day since my boils hops are a lot different with any other style but seem doable.

 

[hopfenstopfen]

Hey Guys,
I want to brew another NEIPA soon.
I have the capability to mash enough grains for 10 gallons but only want 5 gallons NEIPA.

Have any of you every split the wort from an NEIPA and used the other half for another type of beer?

I was thinking of some kind of Belgian yeast with about 30 IBUs but would be open to other ideas.

Thanks!

Ferment the other half with a Cali strain or 34/70!!! See @ihavenonickname ’s New/Modern West Coast IPA. A head to head comparison might be fun.

 

[Beerdrinker85]

Hey Guys,

First time using Nectaron here (got 1 lbs), got some cryo citra/mosaic/simcoe and I7/el dorado T90

Is nectaron more citrus or tropical fruit? All Nectaron in the DH?

Thanks

 

[Dgallo]

Hey Guys,
I want to brew another NEIPA soon.
I have the capability to mash enough grains for 10 gallons but only want 5 gallons NEIPA.
Have any of you every split the wort from an NEIPA and used the other half for another type of beer?

I was thinking of some kind of Belgian yeast with about 30 IBUs but would be open to other ideas.

Thanks!

Could always do a mash with the base grains and then steep specialty grains. I do this sometimes will wilds. I’ll make 8 gallons of NEIPA wort and split it at flame out, I’ll dilute the 2-2.5 extra gallons to do a brett’d beer and use the remaining for my ipa

 

[ihavenonickname]

Ferment the other half with a Cali strain or 34/70!!! See @ihavenonickname ’s New/Modern West Coast IPA. A head to head comparison might be fun.

Yeah it’s fun to think through split batch options. I’d love to hear what other people do. The easiest things for using the same wort and just one boil is to just pitch different yeasts. For IPA wort doing east coast/west coast actually works surprisingly well, the beers are distinct but both good. The other split I like is just pitching a saison yeast into half of it. IPA wort makes a good saison. You can also water back post boil to dilute part of the wort - I really like this method. Make a neipa but then dilute half the wort to 1.050 for a saison then plus or minus the dry hop. I’ve only done with with west coast wort but the wheat and oats in a neipa would do well too (tho you might want to go with a higher than usual hot side IBU.
Another idea I’ve had is for the second 5 gallons half of neipa just don’t dry hop it right away. Let it ferment out as usual and then just let it sit for a few extra weeks (maybe months?) sealed and 02 free. Then dry hop and proceed with normal practices. I think this would really address the freshness issue.

 

[Shenanigans]

Hey Guys,
I want to brew another NEIPA soon.
I have the capability to mash enough grains for 10 gallons but only want 5 gallons NEIPA.
Have any of you every split the wort from an NEIPA and used the other half for another type of beer?

I was thinking of some kind of Belgian yeast with about 30 IBUs but would be open to other ideas.

Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestions so far.
The Brett/Wild option sounds promising; I have some WLP650 here that I could co-pitch with something or even do 100% Brett.
Also use up some of the hops that I don't normally use for IPAs.

@Langerz my plan is indeed to do two separate boils.
I have several kettles that can handel 5 gallons or more, so apart from the extra cleaning it wouldn't take much longer than boiling 10 gallons at once.
Come to think of it the two 5 gallon batches come to the boil quicker than the 10 gallon batch in one kettle.
Sometimes I have 3 kettles running at the same time which can get a bit sporty if all 3 beers have multiple hop additions.

 

[secretlevel]

Thanks for the suggestions so far.
The Brett/Wild option sounds promising; I have some WLP650 here that I could co-pitch with something or even do 100% Brett.
Also use up some of the hops that I don't normally use for IPAs.

@Langerz my plan is indeed to do two separate boils.
I have several kettles that can handel 5 gallons or more, so apart from the extra cleaning it wouldn't take much longer than boiling 10 gallons at once.
Come to think of it the two 5 gallon batches come to the boil quicker than the 10 gallon batch in one kettle.
Sometimes I have 3 kettles running at the same time which can get a bit sporty if all 3 beers have multiple hop additions.

If you haven't played a game called Overcooked, I think you'll love it. You basically scramble to make multiple dishes at the same time while dodging obstacles, sometimes with multiple people involved. It can make or break friendships

 

[Shenanigans]

If you haven't played a game called Overcooked, I think you'll love it. You basically scramble to make multiple dishes at the same time while dodging obstacles, sometimes with multiple people involved. It can make or break friendships

Sounds like a typical brew day for me, the obsticles being whatever I have used earlier and not tidied away yet.
All because I have a limited number of days I can brew so I try to fit in as many beers as I can.

 

[Dgallo]

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[Dwaynehaze]

Anybody use imperial mangosteeni yet? Just pitched it in a dipa batch today

 

[Dgallo]

Brewed a Brujos inspired hazy double last Saturday;

Grainbill
40% - Rahr 2row
35% - Malted oats
25% - Flaked oat
Mash temp - 155*f
OG - 1.086
FG - 1.024 (target)
Yeast - imperial juice.

Hops hotside
1:1 ratio of citra to rakau
2lb/bbl rate

Dryhop (expected)
2:1:1 Sultana to citra to rakau
5.5lb/bbl rate

I’ll keep the group up to date with the progress

 

[Dgallo]

***Sorry, double post. ***

 

[Ulisses4677]

Brewed a Brujos inspired hazy double last Saturday;

Grainbill
40% - Rahr 2row
35% - Malted oats
25% - Flaked oat
Mash temp - 155*f
OG - 1.086
FG - 1.024 (target)
Yeast - imperial juice.

Hops hotside
1:1 ratio of citra to rakau
2lb/bbl rate

Dryhop (expected)
2:1:1 Sultana to citra to rakau
5.5lb/bbl rate

I’ll keep the group up to date with the progress

Sultana is straight pineapple juice

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Brewed a Brujos inspired hazy double last Saturday;

Grainbill
40% - Rahr 2row
35% - Malted oats
25% - Flaked oat
Mash temp - 155*f
OG - 1.086
FG - 1.024 (target)
Yeast - imperial juice.

Hops hotside
1:1 ratio of citra to rakau
2lb/bbl rate

Dryhop (expected)
2:1:1 Sultana to citra to rakau
5.5lb/bbl rate

I’ll keep the group up to date with the progress

You know…it’s funny to me. It seems that the more things change the more they stay the same….I remember 4-5? Years ago the daydream oat cream IPA was the rage….I went as high as 50% combo between malted/flaked oats and a little wheat. So what’s the difference now with Brujos? Seems it’s a little higher % oats but no wheat and perhaps a higher final gravity than the old daydream oat cream series? Also very curious how A24 does for you on this since it’s a monster attenuator I wouldn’t be surprised if you finished at 1.020 instead of 1.024 despite higher mash temp. I’ve been meaning to mash a hazy higher for a while with A24 so interested in your final results on this.

EDIT: Ive never had brujos beers before but wondering if the high malted oats % might cause (depending on the hops used) a little burn in end product. Cant remember the last time Ive used flaked oats in an IPA lol.

 

[Dgallo]

Sultana is straight pineapple juice

This is my first time using it since it’s been Denali but I had a few beers with it recently and wanted to check it out. Same goes for rakau.

All the hops came from hop alliance and the quality was great

 

[Dgallo]

You know…it’s funny to me. It seems that the more things change the more they stay the same….I remember 4-5? Years ago the daydream oat cream IPA was the rage….I went as high as 50% combo between malted/flaked oats and a little wheat. So what’s the difference now with Brujos? Seems it’s a little higher % oats but no wheat and perhaps a higher final gravity than the old daydream oat cream series? Also very curious how A24 does for you on this since it’s a monster attenuator I wouldn’t be surprised if you finished at 1.020 instead of 1.024 despite higher mash temp. I’ve been meaning to mash a hazy higher for a while with A24 so interested in your final results on this.

EDIT: Ive never had brujos beers before but wondering if the high malted oats % might cause (depending on the hops used) a little burn in end product. Cant remember the last time Ive used flaked oats in an IPA lol.

I can’t disagree with you. I’ve never been higher than about 45% before (IIRC), and like you, it’s been a while since I’ve done flaked oats.

I brewed it pretty much out of, I really want to use these hops eventually, they all smell good so why not together. Then I was given a whole day to brew from the wife, so I knew this was the opportunity to give the base a try

 

[Noob_Brewer]

This is my first time using it since it’s been Denali but I had a few beers with it recently and wanted to check it out. Same goes for rakau.

All the hops came from hop alliance and the quality was great

Wait what? Sultana is Denali rebranded? Had a couple beers with Denali in ipas a number of years ago and loved them but never could find them for brewing. Will def have to check sultana out

 

[Ulisses4677]

This is my first time using it since it’s been Denali but I had a few beers with it recently and wanted to check it out. Same goes for rakau.

All the hops came from hop alliance and the quality was great

I buy most of my hops from hop alliance, you can’t beat the price and quality. I brewed a modern west coast ipa with citra , sultana and it was pretty bomb.

 

[aaronm13]

Brewed a Brujos inspired hazy double last Saturday;

Grainbill
40% - Rahr 2row
35% - Malted oats
25% - Flaked oat
Mash temp - 155*f
OG - 1.086
FG - 1.024 (target)
Yeast - imperial juice.

Hops hotside
1:1 ratio of citra to rakau
2lb/bbl rate

Dryhop (expected)
2:1:1 Sultana to citra to rakau
5.5lb/bbl rate

I’ll keep the group up to date with the progress

I brewed my Brujos inspired 4 weeks ago now and kegged 2 weeks ago just before going on vacation. Pretty much the same numbers as you, 1,087-1.022 and dry hopped with 17oz in 5.5G with Nelson, Citra and Nectaron.
Was tasting very good just after kegging but had a lot of hop burn so had high hopes for when I got home. Tried it the other night and its pure alcohol on the aroma and taste. So disappointed so far. I know it's relativity early days but had such high hopes after trying the sample before going away. Was going to enter it in a competition but cut off is tomorrow so not going to bother.

One plus is the mouthfeel is incredible, easily my best yet so the slightly lower efficiency with all the oats and wheat might be worth it going forward.

 

[Dgallo]

I brewed my Brujos inspired 4 weeks ago now and kegged 2 weeks ago just before going on vacation. Pretty much the same numbers as you, 1,087-1.022 and dry hopped with 17oz in 5.5G with Nelson, Citra and Nectaron.
Was tasting very good just after kegging but had a lot of hop burn so had high hopes for when I got home. Tried it the other night and its pure alcohol on the aroma and taste. So disappointed so far. I know it's relativity early days but had such high hopes after trying the sample before going away. Was going to enter it in a competition but cut off is tomorrow so not going to bother.

One plus is the mouthfeel is incredible, easily my best yet so the slightly lower efficiency with all the oats and wheat might be worth it going forward.

How did fermentation go? Sounds like you picked up fusel alcohol

 

[aaronm13]

How did fermentation go? Sounds like you picked up fusel alcohol

Fermentation seemed fine, pretty much as normal with Verdant. Pitch at 65F and let free rise to 68F for around 48 hours then let free rise to 72F for the remainder. Never actually thought it might be fusel alcohol. It is 8.7% so there is booze there but to completely dominate 17oz of hops has me totally puzzled.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I don't know who brew Joes (brujos) are but they sound like they might make good beer. I'm brewing a ... normal.. neipa this weekend, aiming for 8.2% so I guess it's a double normal neipa, I was gonna do like 25% white wheat and 15% malted oats but maybe I flip them? Doing ctz, simcoe, and citra hot side and nectaron and citra lupomax cold side.

 

[Dgallo]

Fermentation seemed fine, pretty much as normal with Verdant. Pitch at 65F and let free rise to 68F for around 48 hours then let free rise to 72F for the remainder. Never actually thought it might be fusel alcohol. It is 8.7% so there is booze there but to completely dominate 17oz of hops has me totally puzzled.

Yeah you would think a FG on the high side and big hop load would be able to withstand 8.7% abv without much problem.

All thermometers reading correctly?

 

[balrog]

If you haven't played a game called Overcooked, I think you'll love it. You basically scramble to make multiple dishes at the same time while dodging obstacles, sometimes with multiple people involved. It can make or break friendships

I believe you have the wrong name.
It's called, "Family Thanksgiving At My House".
The downloadable content, extra pack if you will, is called, "Why Did My Sister In Law Open The Wine at 9:30 AM; or For That Matter, Why is The Scotch Bottle Open?"

 

[wepeeler]

Anybody use imperial mangosteeni yet? Just pitched it in a dipa batch today

A guy in my brew club used it in a session neipa with Azacca and Mosaic, and it was fantastic. All 2 Row and 8% Carafoam. Very tropical. .5oz mosaic at 5 min and 1oz each Mosaic and Azacca in 20 min WP. 3oz each DH and fermented at 78F.

 

[aaronm13]

Yeah you would think a FG on the high side and big hop load would be able to withstand 8.7% abv without much problem.

All thermometers reading correctly?

Pretty sure they are. I use an Inkbird in the thermowell on my fermenter and a Tilt and both read the same. Hopefully a bit of time will settle things out. Will just have to let this competition go.

 

[Dwaynehaze]

A guy in my brew club used it in a session neipa with Azacca and Mosaic, and it was fantastic. All 2 Row and 8% Carafoam. Very tropical. .5oz mosaic at 5 min and 1oz each Mosaic and Azacca in 20 min WP. 3oz each DH and fermented at 78F.

It's smelling amazing so far and got me close to terminal in 2 days at 82f

 

[anteater8]

Got gold in the IPA category out of 29 entries last night, my biggest win in a while!

14 lb 2 row
3 lb flaked oats
0.75 lb wheat
0.25 lb honey malt

0.5 oz Warrior 60 min (19 IBU)
2 oz Citra whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Mosaic Lupomax whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Amarillo whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Citra dry hop #1
2 oz Citra Lupomax dry hop #1
2 oz Mosaic dry hop #1
2 oz Amarillo dry hop #1
1 oz Vic Secret dry hop #1

Imperial Juice Gen 1

75:150 sulfate:chloride

O.G = 1.065
F.G. = 1.014
ABV = 6.7%

I got mostly mango, pineapple, orange with some papaya, grapefruit, pine and dankness. Judges noted mango, tangerine, guava and grapefruit. I've medaled with this recipe twice before, but swapping the 1 oz Vic Secret for Galaxy. If I were to brew again, I would reduce or eliminate the 60 min addition. It might not be necessary when you have a 6 oz whirlpool and 9 oz dry hop.

 

[Dgallo]

Got gold in the IPA category out of 29 entries last night, my biggest win in a while!

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14 lb 2 row
3 lb flaked oats
0.75 lb wheat
0.25 lb honey malt

0.5 oz Warrior 60 min (19 IBU)
2 oz Citra whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Mosaic Lupomax whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Amarillo whirlpool (30 min 180 degrees)
2 oz Citra dry hop #1
2 oz Citra Lupomax dry hop #1
2 oz Mosaic dry hop #1
2 oz Amarillo dry hop #1
1 oz Vic Secret dry hop #1

Imperial Juice Gen 1

75:150 sulfate:chloride

O.G = 1.065
F.G. = 1.014
ABV = 6.7%

I got mostly mango, pineapple, orange with some papaya, grapefruit, pine and dankness. Judges noted mango, tangerine, guava and grapefruit. I've medaled with this recipe twice before, but swapping the 1 oz Vic Secret for Galaxy. If I were to brew again, I would reduce or eliminate the 60 min addition. It might not be necessary when you have a 6 oz whirlpool and 9 oz dry hop.

Congrats! What comp?