New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Noob_Brewer]

Well Mr. Kimmich likes your way:




(Sorry for the FB links, couldn't find #56 elsewhere.)

My only comment on this video.....why does a man from new england have a terrible towel in the video. Couldn't bring myself to watch the video...traitor. lol

 

[kccoop07]

My only comment on this video.....why does a man from new england have a terrible towel in the video. Couldn't bring myself to watch the video...traitor. lol

Because of course he's from Pittsburgh.

I had these in memory because I too was recently deciding how to use my Nelson. I couldn't bring myself to "waste" it hotside though, so I went with I7 and Chinook, 3 lb/bbl Nelson added near terminal, and a hint of other NZ hop oils after.

 

[Dgallo]

Because of course he's from Pittsburgh.

I had these in memory because I too was recently deciding how to use my Nelson. I couldn't bring myself to "waste" it hotside though, so I went with I7 and Chinook, 3 lb/bbl Nelson added near terminal, and a hint of other NZ hop oils after.

That had to be a major nelson bomb. How’d it come out?

 

[Fergal]

Just got back from NZ where I was working for the week. Called into NZ hops to try and buy from the source - glad I did. 500g each of Nelson, Taiheke, Nectaron & Motueka. Was really cool being in the region and driving through all the towns that the hops are named after. Not to mention the hops were basically half price. Tried some really good beers while I was there also with a standout being a nectaron / motueka pale ale. There definitely seems to be more of a regional flavour to the beers I had which was great to see, certainly a lot more than when I was last there pre-covid. Looking forward to using these hops in a few hazies & WC style beers soon.

 

[kccoop07]

That had to be a major nelson bomb. How’d it come out?

Sample yesterday 15 days post-brew was still a bit green and under-carbed, but it's certainly Nelson-forward! I'll post up more info when it's ready.

 

[Dgallo]

Sample yesterday 15 days post-brew was still a bit green and under-carbed, but it's certainly Nelson-forward! I'll post up more info when it's ready.

Def interested to hear how it turns out

I actually just brewed a double NEIPA on Saturday;

Hotside
1:1 Galaxy/Strata cryo

It’s still undecided but..
Dryhop
2 : 1.5 : 1.5 Citra LUPOMAX/Galaxy/Nelson

 

[NZhomebrew]

Just got back from NZ where I was working for the week. Called into NZ hops to try and buy from the source - glad I did. 500g each of Nelson, Taiheke, Nectaron & Motueka. Was really cool being in the region and driving through all the towns that the hops are named after. Not to mention the hops were basically half price. Tried some really good beers while I was there also with a standout being a nectaron / motueka pale ale. There definitely seems to be more of a regional flavour to the beers I had which was great to see, certainly a lot more than when I was last there pre-covid. Looking forward to using these hops in a few hazies & WC style beers soon.

Can I ask what brewery you got the one ale ale from?

 

[Fergal]

Can I ask what brewery you got the one ale ale from?

Choice Bros. Was called phlex. Was just a really fresh beer that hit all the good nz notes. The guys were so generous and sent me the recipe too.

 

[aaronm13]

It’s going to make a fine beer regardless.

I am still working from my 2021 Riwaka (I got 3 lbs of it since it was exceptionally hard to get at that time). All 3 bags of mine, probably from the same lot, were very NZ “hoppy”, with pithy grapefruit.

@Anteater , I meant that I tend to use those types of hops hotside. Riwaka falls under the Hoppy, Pithy citrus to me.

Hope so. I pretty much went with your schedule on your TIPA thread but scaled the rate to around 14oz dry hop. Out of curiosity, is your brewing schedule different for a TIPA compared to as DIPA? As in would you still dry hop and keg in the same time scale or do you leave the beer sit in the fermenter longer to condition before dry hopping?
I was all set to keep to my usual schedule of soft crashing around day 12-14, transfer to dry hop keg and carry on as normal, but was talking to a friend of mine from my brew club and he said I'd need to leave it in the fermenter for a good few weeks to let the alcohol heat settle. He's got me thinking and wondering now as I'd rather, dry hop and keg as normal and leave condition in the fridge for a couple of weeks.

Got some 2022 Riwaka today so will mix that with my 2021 Riwaka I got from Yakima.

 

[aaronm13]

Well Mr. Kimmich likes your way:




(Sorry for the FB links, couldn't find #56 elsewhere.)

IF it's good enough for JOhn, it's good enough for me. Thanks for posting those videos.

 

[stickyfinger]

I haven't had a Treehouse beer for a long time. A friend just gave me some fresh Haze. I have to say that I don't really like the hop character a ton. It has a very kind of geranium character that sometimes comes in hoppy beers. Is that what their hoppy beers taste like now? What causes that? I've never made a beer with that flavor.

 

[wepeeler]

I haven't had a Treehouse beer for a long time. A friend just gave me some fresh Haze. I have to say that I don't really like the hop character a ton. It has a very kind of geranium character that sometimes comes in hoppy beers. Is that what their hoppy beers taste like now? What causes that? I've never made a beer with that flavor.

I hate to be that guy, but their beer hasn't been the same for awhile. Haze was my favorite beer for a long time, but it's been lacking lately. Julius too. Almost seems watered down.

 

[Dgallo]

I hate to be that guy, but their beer hasn't been the same for awhile. Haze was my favorite beer for a long time, but it's been lacking lately. Julius too. Almost seems watered down.

Is it there quality went down or everyone else’s went up? I always ask myself that question.

I do feel that it certainly has lost its wonder and I haven’t felt the need to trade for it in a while.

 

[wepeeler]

Is it there quality went down or everyone else’s went up? I always ask myself that question.

I do feel that it certainly has lost its wonder and I haven’t felt the need to trade for it in a while.

That's why I said I hate to be that guy lol. I used to stand in line. I get it. But I could care less to take the trip anymore. I enjoy the environment, but I have no desire to "get the haul".

 

[TBryerton]

Quality has definitely gone down. Once in awhile they’ll put out a beer that is astonishingly good, and it’s a reminder of what their beer tasted like years ago. IMO when they put out a good batch it’s better than anything else on the market. By far. Unfortunately most of the time it’s missing that signature TH yeast profile or it tastes like a vegetable.

 

[BongoYodeler]

Is it there quality went down or everyone else’s went up? I always ask myself that question.

I do feel that it certainly has lost its wonder and I haven’t felt the need to trade for it in a while.

I was having this same discussion with a couple friends recently. I have no idea if their quality went down or not, but I'm certain that many breweries across the country and beyond have not only caught up, but in some, (many?), cases surpassed them.

 

[beervoid]

Riwaka can be awsome as a single hop if you get good Riwaka with not too much diesel notes.

 

[wepeeler]

Quality has definitely gone down. Once in awhile they’ll put out a beer that is astonishingly good, and it’s a reminder of what their beer tasted like years ago. IMO when they put out a good batch it’s better than anything else on the market. By far. Unfortunately most of the time it’s missing that signature TH yeast profile or it tastes like a vegetable.

I was having this same discussion with a couple friends recently. I have no idea if their quality went down or not, but I'm certain that many breweries across the country and beyond have not only caught up, but in some, (many?), cases surpassed them.

Nate said they literally taste every batch and don't put out inferior product, but at this point I just don't know. My palate can not be that good, and I feel like an ass saying that their beer doesn't live up to what it was, but I truly feel that way.

 

[TBryerton]

Nate said they literally taste every batch and don't put out inferior product, but at this point I just don't know. My palate can not be that good, and I feel like an ass saying that their beer doesn't live up to what it was, but I truly feel that way.

I believe this was said awhile ago, and in a time when he was vocal about brewing every batch himself.

 

[LumberZach]

Green, Julius, and Congress Street when I first had them in 2015 were life changing. Part of the reason why I got into homebrewing. Now, those beers aren't even a shell of what they used to be.

 

[stickyfinger]

Quality has definitely gone down. Once in awhile they’ll put out a beer that is astonishingly good, and it’s a reminder of what their beer tasted like years ago. IMO when they put out a good batch it’s better than anything else on the market. By far. Unfortunately most of the time it’s missing that signature TH yeast profile or it tastes like a vegetable.

it does have a kind of vegetal taste. that's the geranium note i was talking about. it's a very strong perfumy, vegetal kind of character. Maybe it comes from dry hopping with hops high in geraniol or something.

 

[wepeeler]

Green, Julius, and Congress Street when I first had them in 2015 were life changing. Part of the reason why I got into homebrewing. Now, those beers aren't even a shell of what they used to be.

Congress St was a game changer around 2015. Now I could care less about it. Sounds horrible to say!

 

[Dwaynehaze]

Anybody try 2022 cashmere yet? On sale for 5 bucks a lb rn on YVH which seems too low?

 

[ihavenonickname]

It’s the 2021 (edit: 2020) for $5. I had it in a commercial lean WCIPA the other day (w Idaho 7 and mosaic) and I was really impressed with it. Had a vanilla sweet coconut thing worked really nicely, reminded me of sabro when its done well.

 

[CascadesBrewer]

It’s the 2021 for $5. I had it in a commercial lean WCIPA the other day (w Idaho 7 and mosaic) and I was really impressed with it. Had a vanilla sweet coconut thing worked really nicely, reminded me of sabro when its done well.

Actually it is the 2020 that is $5 per lb and the 2021 is for $10 per lb.

For those that have not see it, here is the YVH Black Friday page:
https://yakimavalleyhops.com/pages/bfcm2022

 

[ihavenonickname]

Wooops, he was confused I was confused. Set us straight!

 

[TBryerton]

Congress St was a game changer around 2015. Now I could care less about it. Sounds horrible to say!

Congress St was unbelievably good back in the day. I gave up on Trillium years ago. I thought they were the best for awhile. Other Half did Congress St for a freaky Friday and it was amazing. Sad that someone else makes your beer better than you do.

 

[Dgallo]

Congress St was unbelievably good back in the day. I gave up on Trillium years ago. I thought they were the best for awhile. Other Half did Congress St for a freaky Friday and it was amazing. Sad that someone else makes your beer better than you do.

I was a bigger fan of vicinity st. but I agree. I thought their yeast profile was better than anyone at the time yet it still let hops shine. JC was even a HBT member which for me elevated them even more lol

 

[Dwaynehaze]

Trillium has popped up at a distro place around me in reading pa. They got cans of Congress street and the whatever under whatever under whatever under whatever pales. Was kinda shocked to see it

 

[ihavenonickname]

I get trillium in southern CA pretty consistently for some reason for the last ear or so. I’ve had a half dozen all solid, nothing great. Other half made it out here only once that I know of, also solid (it was a 4.5% hazy) so didn’t seem like a fair assessment.