Nine Criminal Bikers down..... how many to go?

[Owly055]

I have to admit that I never shed a tear......... in fact quite the opposite when I read the New York Times news flash about the shootout in Waco Texas today. Nine gangsters dead...... a few bystanders injured.... apparently minor. Couldn't we just fence off an area and turn them all in so they could go at it? Keep decent people out of it.....

A friend of mine served 5 years many years ago for killing two Bandidos.... After they molested his girlfriend, he took off after them in a drunken rage driving down a lonely highway, ran them down killing both of them. Instead of getting a medal, they sent him to prison.

At the trial, law enforcement from all over the area showed up, and many citizens were deputized and armed and ready. The Bandidos showed up in force. Many of them locked up for one pretext or another, several injured in confrontations with the cops, the rest tucked their tails between their legs and left. He of course plead guilty to the lightest charge possible under the circumstances.

I was not living there when he came home, but he was given a hero's welcome. I can't as a responsible citizen condone what he did, but in my heart I applaud it as did almost everybody in town. There needs to be open season on these criminals!!

H.W.

 

[Zuljin]

Just another set of gang bangers. No different than any other trash.

 

[1977Brewer]

Yep, ignorant morons doing ignorant moron sh!t.

 

[Homercidal]

As I understand it, the both went to the same restaurant and the fight started in the bathroom, then spilled out into the restaurant and the guns came out.

So I'm left wondering what could have happened in the bathroom to upset them so badly. Someone's foot tapping go unnoticed?

 

[hunter_le five]

As I understand it, the both went to the same restaurant and the fight started in the bathroom, then spilled out into the restaurant and the guns came out.

So I'm left wondering what could have happened in the bathroom to upset them so badly. Someone's foot tapping go unnoticed?

I like to imagine that it started something like this -

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwH85gFOVVQ[/ame]

- and quickly escalated from there.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

I like to imagine that it started something like this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwH85gFOVVQ

- and quickly escalated from there.

maybe they were bike-curious.

 

[JINKS]

maybe they were bike-curious.

I see what you did there

 

[JohnSand]

I never mourn bad guys either. I have a lot of creative ideas for dealing with them, but I don't think I should put them in writing.

 

[Owly055]

I never mourn bad guys either. I have a lot of creative ideas for dealing with them, but I don't think I should put them in writing.

John:
It's a good idea not to write down your "creative ideas"......... Nothing is private these days, and they constitute "evidence" and can make you the target of the LEOs even if you didn't do it.

"Revenge" is just another name for "justice". The old saying "don't get mad, get even" is a wise one, as is the saying by Sun Tzu "The wheels of justice grind slow, but exceedingly fine". I've settled scores as much as 20 years after the fact. The problem with that is that the intervening time means that if you do something violent or illegal, you can't say that you reacted in the "heat of the moment" as my friend who ran the bikers down was able to plead as mitigation. 20 years of premeditation is definitely NOT a "defense". SSS


H.W.

 

[Zuljin]

I'm surprised bk doesn't ride some crazy ratted out adv styled cruiser or standard.

 

[Inkleg]

Just a PSA.

Try to avoid making plans for the day, because the word "premeditated" gets thrown around in the courtroom.

 

[Drinknbuddy024]

maybe they were bike-curious.

HAH! Clever guy

 

[Owly055]

Spotted one of the Wacko gangsters in Livingston, Mt. last night. I've seen Bandidos passing through before, but this was the first Cossack I remember seeing around here.......... I'm not sure when the season opens on them.... presumably when the annual migration starts to Sturgis. I presume that when you get your license, it comes with a handbook to help identify "fair game" species (Bandidos, Hells Angels, Cossacks, etc) and those that are protected (ordinary folks that like to deck themselves out in similar regalia and ride around on HDs mingling with the criminals as human shields).


H.W.

 

[Zuljin]

Just don't shoot at us power rangers. We don't have to run when the cops show up.

Or do we? There's quite a fuss being made over how 170 or so people were all arrested all on the same charge and all held on $1,000,000 bails. To not question it, we'd have to believe that 170 or so "organized criminals" gathered together in a highly public place, at a publicized time, to conduct their business of organized crime. Doubtful.

 

[Rhumbline]

I thought they arrested them under something like the RICO statute. Being members in an ongoing criminal enterprise.

I think many states have a law like, if you and I break into a house and the homeowner kills you, I can be charged in your death.

 

[day_trippr]

Keyboard Commandos are totally lame...

Cheers!

 

[passedpawn]

A friend of mine served 5 years many years ago for killing two Bandidos.... After they molested his girlfriend, he took off after them in a drunken rage driving down a lonely highway, ran them down killing both of them. Instead of getting a medal, they sent him to prison.

Vigilantes: ignore the law to settle "debts" and levy their own brand of justice on a person of questionable guilt without any due process.

Sounds a lot like the biker gangs to me, without the leathers. I'v avoiding both vigilantes and bikers if possible.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

Vigilantes: ignore the law to settle "debts" and levy their own brand of justice on a person of questionable guilt without any due process.

Sounds a lot like the biker gangs to me, without the leathers. I'v avoiding both vigilantes and bikers if possible.

soooo... you don't want to hang out then? I promise not to wear my mask & cape.

 

[1977Brewer]

soooo... you don't want to hang out then? I promise not to wear my mask & cape.

You're a luchador?

 

[brew_ny]

bikers

motorcycle enthusiasts

 

[Billy-Klubb]

You're a luchador?

don't judge me!

 

[Zuljin]

I thought they arrested them under something like the RICO statute. Being members in an ongoing criminal enterprise.

I think many states have a law like, if you and I break into a house and the homeowner kills you, I can be charged in your death.

Pretty much. So far as we know, and that's an important phrase, the criteria for being arrested and charged with engaging in organized criminal activity was to be at Twin Peaks and look like a "biker". Granted, the pictures that have come out from the incident do show a lot of Bandido, Cossack and Scimitar patches, but there were others, such as the Vice Grips. The VG bills themselves as a club for pre 1970s HDs.

Who associates with who and to what extent is a tangled web. I'm no "biker". I'm a person who rides a motorcycle and hangs out with other people who have similar vehicles. Still though, patched club members have shown up at charity rides I rode in. There we were. All in one bar. It didn't make me a club member or a criminal. Them neither. This seemingly en masse round up based on broad criteria should be concerning to us all.

This incident is looking less and less like a clean cut case of thugs being thugs.

 

[brew_ny]

I thought they arrested them under something like the RICO statute. Being members in an ongoing criminal enterprise.

should have used it on the bankers

 

[timpoulsen]

I'm a patched M/C member. Best you stick with the topic of beer since obviously you have no clue about this one.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

I'm a patched M/C member. Best you stick with the topic of beer since obviously you have no clue about this one.

I'm a punk/skinhead, but I can't speak for all the rest of them. every culture/subculture/counter culture has bad apples.

 

[Homercidal]

My wife watched SoA, so I'm somewhat of an expert.

 

[brew_ny]

My wife watched SoA, so I'm somewhat of an expert.

only if you have read a book or two also

 

[Rhumbline]

"I run this church for loggers..."

 

[brew_ny]

I'm a punk/skinhead

fooled me BK I thought you were a Minister at a snake handling church

 

[SlickTX]

I'm a patched M/C member. Best you stick with the topic of beer since obviously you have no clue about this one.

I agree with you completely. I'm not patched but let's say I'm an enthusiast that knows somebody that knows somebody. I'm not often close to being a target of prejudice, but this one hits pretty close to home.