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[day_trippr]

There's a fair bit of debate as to what constitutes kolsch.

Indeed. One take on kolsch is "It's the only successful dilution of water"...

Cheers!

 

[Wolfbayte]

Sunset Blonde. A hazy maris otter brew with Galaxy and Chinook.

 

[VikeMan]

My niece and her husband went to Canada and brought back some cans of Kölsch they picked up there. I tried it and said well I have to find a recipe for that. Got online, the very first recipe I found was just what I said and I thought okay I've got the stuff here, that's this week's Brew. I made it and it was spot on to what I tried made commercially. I figure if it works, don't fix it. There's a fair bit of debate as to what constitutes kolsch. Just go to the thread in the recipe section and look at how many different ways people make it. Or make what they call it. I don't think I can understate it enough to say there's a lot of different grain bills.

Of course there is some wiggle room for interpretation. But Kölsch is a traditional beer from a very specific place, Köln. I don't know what was used in the beer your niece brought back from Canada. Maybe they used exactly what you used. I doubt it, but it's possible. But if so, the beer they made would be more accurately called a blonde ale. Why take a beer that appears to be a perfect match for one style and call it a different style?

From the BJCP:

Kölsch:
Characteristic Ingredients: Traditional German hops. German Pils, Pale, or Vienna malt. Attenuative, clean German ale yeast. Occasional small use of wheat malt.

Blonde Ale:
Characteristic Ingredients: Generally all-malt, but can include wheat malt or sugar adjuncts. Any hop variety can be used. Clean American, lightly fruity English, or Kölsch yeast. May also be made with lager yeast, or cold-conditioned.

Of course, it's your beer and you can call it what you want. But if you ever decide to compete or go pro, you'll find labeling "to style" to be pretty important.

 

[user 338926]

Well, Liberty is basically Hallertau rebranded. It's the same plants grown here instead of over there. The two row is pale malt and Vienna is clearly listed. A top fermenting ale yeast was used. Precisely what more am I supposed to change?

Ps. Without chemicals or filtering, it's as crystal clear as commercially filtered versions. Though I will admit, it rarely lasts long enough to get that clear.

(Edit)
I've been to that page before and even looked it up last night. I was a little confused that it's not only 5b, but also 6c. Though I cannot find 6c in the 2021 guidelines. I've considered changing the recipe, so if I'm forced to use different ingredients, I'm willing to at least try it once. By all means tell me what I am supposed to change. Is the 1.7L not pure enough? Just, in the meantime, I'm going to continue to call it kolsch because I don't see where it breaks any of the rules.

I'm afraid even if you do give me recommendations, I can't get the stuff in time for this weekend's batch because I would like to make another batch of it, but this time possibly change up the Hops since I have all four of the recommended varieties in stock, and I want to do a decoction mash. I didn't see that mentioned in the 5b section though I seem to recall it written somewhere that it isn't unacceptable.

https://www.bjcp.org/beer-styles/6c-kolsch/

 

[VikeMan]

Well, Liberty is basically Hallertau rebranded. It's the same plants grown here instead of over there.

It's not. It's a triploid hybrid, where one of its parents was Hallertau Mitt. And its character isn't quite like any of the noble hops. A noble hop would be more authentic.

The two row is pale malt and Vienna is clearly listed.

Two-row is a pale malt. It's not a German Pale Malt. And it won't make the same beer.

A top fermenting ale yeast was used.

But not a German yeast. Neither S-04 nor US-05 ("US04" is not a thing) make the same beer as a german ale yeast. There are actually a few German ale strains labelled as "Kolsch" strains. They are good choices.

Precisely what more am I supposed to change?

Nothing, unless you want to. I'm simply saying that Blonde Ale is a more accurate description.

 

[VikeMan]

Addressing the added/edited part...

(Edit)
I've been to that page before and even looked it up last night. I was a little confused that it's not only 5b, but also 6c. Though I cannot find 6c in the 2021 guidelines.

The numbers change between editions of the guidelines, because some styles are added/deleted/combined/moved. In the most current guideline (2021) it's 5B. Here's the .pdf:
https://www.bjcp.org/download/2021_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

By all means tell me what I am supposed to change. Is the 1.7L not pure enough?

It's not a question of purity. But there's more to malt character than the color. Personally, for a Kolsch, I use a German Pilsner Malt (Weyermann) as the base.

 

[user 338926]

Ok, so what's this Barke stuff people are talking about?

Specifically here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/best-grain-bill-for-a-authentic-kolsch.724157/
I would be more inclined to use the somewhat darker pale malt instead.

 

[VikeMan]

Ok, so what's this Barke stuff people are talking about?

Weyermann Barke Pilsner is made from Barke barley. It's kilned to the same color as their standard Pilsner. I've never used it, but I know there are people who swear by it.

(Spec-wise (proteins, modification, etc.) it's virtually identical.)

 

[hopfenstopfen]

HB NEIPA with Galaxy & Mosaic.

 

[day_trippr]

WCIPA. Not a great pic but it'll have to do...

Cheers!

 

[jcav]

American Amber Ale

 

[RJB.]

German Pils. No finings, just good ole’ fashioned lagering.

 

[BeerSniffer]

Awesome brewskis getting posted.

I like the discussion on beer styles. And as we post pints with titles, it's fitting. Competition sounds fun, and brewing a beer to style presents a new challenge to many. I went to look at the most recent beer I brewed with the Kolsch yeast WY2565. It's lagering now and I'll bottle it today. It has Weyermann Munich and Weyermann Pilsner. OK...so far so good. But for the hops, it's American. This beer might be delicious, but would probably be another beer in the other category.

 

[MaxStout]

Schwarzbier while out in the back yard gazebo. There's been some rain off and on, so no yardwork to cut into beer time today!

 

[Roxhambrewshed]

WCIPA with a good amount of homegrown Chinook hops.

 

[user 338926]

Lovely evening for a beer! Raspberry Hibiscus Wheat...

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Do you use an extract in that or how do you get your raspberry in there? I seem to remember trying a raspberry extract in a Stout once and it made it awful. It had a really harsh artificial flavoring type flavor. If that makes sense. Nothing like the incredible fruit flavor you would get in a Lambic or something like that. I've seen people use real fruit and get real fruit flavor. Seen other people use extract and get real fruit flavor. I'm just not one of them.

It does look beautiful.

 

[Graham H]

Peach cider (made for Mother’s Day Brunch). The dog (my brewing assistant) isn’t interested in the beverage— he’s really staring at the plate of bacon just off camera.

 

[jturman35]

Apartment Brewer Irish Red ale recipe and best Irish Red I have brewed.

 

[mattman91]

Proper glassware for my HB German Pils.


This is quite good.

 

[mattman91]

HB German Pils with homemade brats and homemade Bavarian potato salad. Prost!

 

[day_trippr]

Enjoying my Juicy Bits clone on a lovely afternoon here...

Cheers!

 

[AzOr]

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HB German Pils with homemade brats and homemade Bavarian potato salad. Prost!

Wowza! Did you cut down a tree and mill your own wood for the deck too?
You’re making us look bad.

 

[mattman91]

Wowza! Did you cut down a tree and mill your own wood for the deck too?
You’re making us look bad.

Actually…


No

 

[JaviBrewski]

HB Kellerbier. Hoping it cleans up a little more during bottle conditioning as it was supposed to be a Pilsner

 

[Ninoid]

Strong Bitter

 

[MaxStout]

Hard cider, from Mott's apple juice, S-04 yeast, and carbed with jaggery.

 

[Ramjet]

Irish Red

 

[toneloc0624]

My first DIPA. Sooo yummy

 

[MaxStout]

A wee bit of wee heavy today.

 

[deuc224]

My over carb'd Cherry Wheat View attachment 816154

Yo i need this recipe, this is probably the only new beer ive seen in a while, willing to share this? If not I understand, looks really really good and interesting.