New Hop Variety: Belma- Puterbaugh Farms

[FATC1TY]

I'm not sure why Beersmith did that. I would assume it adds just as much as the 60 minute addition, but I'm not sure how to do the calculations for FWH.

It actually add MORE than the 60min addition

When you do it, do FWH on the hops selection and it'll figure it out for you.. Mine does automatically.

 

[FATC1TY]

I was going with the Crystal for color and extra mouthfeel but it seems I should go dryer to boost the hop characteristics. You think substituting Vienna in place of the Crystal is a good option? I have seen some Pale Recipes that go this route...And that would keep the Cara down to about 5% >>> Maybe sub something else in instead of Vienna or just do away with that second malt addition altogether... Because the aim here is to get a good highlight of the Belma hop. Thanks for the insight.

Mash higher if you want more mouthfeel. Change the grain ratio to make up for the higher mash temp.

Try 152-153, knock the crystal down, maybe toss in a bit of munich if you want some color and body to go along with not making it ultra sweet.

 

[Herky21]

Did you calculate 0 IBU's from the FWH?

I didn't realize I still had to enter the minutes for FWH and adjusted my original recipe. Now its 75 IBUS overall, which should turn out pretty well.

 

[FATC1TY]

I didn't realize I still had to enter the minutes for FWH and adjusted my original recipe. Now its 75 IBUS overall, which should turn out pretty well.

Which BS version?

If I have a 60 min boil set, it automatically takes that into account when I select FWH. Maybe previous versions don't do that?

Whichever the case, glad you got it worked out.

 

[brewguyver]

Anyone in Pittsburgh area interested in trying out belma, or placing an order with Hops Direct? Shipping on 2# is a whopping 12.60, but shipping on 10# is only $23.00.

That's much more reasonable - comes to 7.55/lb.

 

[vt_cbg]

I just got a pound in with my centennial order. I am planning on doing a simple extract pale ale of about 30 inus to test them. I'm debating going straight belma or combining with other hops. Those who have used them so far what are your suggestions? I have the following hops on hand

Centennial 1#
Cascade 0.5 oz
Sorachi ace 2oz
Motieka 1.5 oz
Magnum .5 oz
Fuggles .5 oz
Saaz 1 oz
Perle 1 oz

Tanks in advance for the input.

 

[Soup4you2]

Hoping to brew this recipe over the weekend, looking forward to trying them out.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.46 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.46 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 6.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 47.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 78.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs 9.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 92.5 %
6.0 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Cargill) (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.1 %
5.1 oz Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.4 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 14.7 IBUs
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 5 13.5 IBUs
0.25 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 9.0 IBUs
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 7 -
0.25 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 5.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 4.7 IBUs
0.5 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 10 -
1.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 9 lbs 4.3 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 12.58 qt of water at 162.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 4.68 gal water at 168.0 F

 

[jtejedor]

You guys that have used them would they be subtle enough to use in a lager? I keep hearing people say they are subtle but how subtle. Would it be gross in say an Oktoberfest?

 

[scottland]

You guys that have used them would they be subtle enough to use in a lager? I keep hearing people say they are subtle but how subtle. Would it be gross in say an Oktoberfest?

I wouldn't use them in a lager. I don't find them that subtle. There's a decent about of 'resin' character to them. Not as much as CTZ or Citra per-say, but it's not a 'clean' lager hop.

 

[Herky21]

Which BS version?

If I have a 60 min boil set, it automatically takes that into account when I select FWH. Maybe previous versions don't do that?

Whichever the case, glad you got it worked out.

It's 2.1.02

 

[AnOldUR]

Pellets had a dankness to them. A little onion. But a sweet red gummy bear also came through strong.

Going for broke. About to draw the second runnings for an all Belma IPA.

Using the entire pound in a 8 gallon batch!







edit the next day to say:
Hit all my numbers and Denny's had a full krausen in less than eight hours.
Hoping for good things from this batch. Don't let me down Belma!

 

[gregkeller]

Last night i brewed a hop bursted pale ale. 39 IBU's, all in the last 20 minutes of boil. 3oz of belma, and 1.5 oz of cascade. Planning on dryhopping with 1 oz of belma and 1 of cascade. I'll come back and offer my thoughts on this in a few weeks.

 

[kaconga]

I started drinking my belma hopped amber. The flavor, while being subdued, is a berry citrus with a finish of spice. It came through nicely and I will have more beers with belma in a supporting role.

 

[roguemc]

Brewed a Kolsch last night with the Belma. When I opened the sealed bag, I got a nose full of fresh hops. I guess I'll see how subtle these are in about a month. For $5/lb I couldn't resist
7.8 2-Row
2.8 Crystal Wheat
.7oz Belma 60min
.3oz Belma 15min
.3oz Belma 5min
WLP 029 Kolsch

Fermenting at 60F

 

[jwible204]

Brewed a Kolsch last night with the Belma. When I opened the sealed bag, I got a nose full of fresh hops. I guess I'll see how subtle these are in about a month. For $5/lb I couldn't resist
7.8 2-Row
2.8 Crystal Wheat
.7oz Belma 60min
.3oz Belma 15min
.3oz Belma 5min
WLP 029 Kolsch

Fermenting at 60F

I mis-read this as 7/3/3 oz and was confused when I saw the malt-bill/style.

:cross:

 

[roguemc]

I mis-read this as 7/3/3 oz and was confused when I saw the malt-bill/style.

:cross:

Beersmith had the IBU's over the profile with this hop recipe, figured if it was that subtle I could go over.

 

[jwible204]

Beersmith had the IBU's over the profile with this hop recipe, figured if it was that subtle I could go over.

If this hop is as described, I think it will pair nicely with a Kolsch.

 

[jammin]

If this hop is as described, I think it will pair nicely with a Kolsch.

Agreed. Would have to use it late though due to the AA%.

 

[jwible204]

Ok, I brewed up a borderline IIPA today (11 gallons). Simcoe FWH (all out of CTZ) and then 2 oz of Belma @ 15/10/5 and 3 oz @ flameout. It's about 80% Vienna malt as I'm trying to get rid of old(er) malt as new stuff is coming in.

Anyway, the only way I can explain the flavor/aroma is 'lemony'. Upon opening the bag I was expecting more citrus but got a lot more grassyness. However, the wort doesn't smell grassy at all, more lemony than anything. I think this flavor would pair really nicely with a summer-style beer, maybe a Blonde Ale or a really light lager.

I'll report back once fermentation is complete, should be about 2 weeks.

 

[FATC1TY]

I got my pellets in with my Amarillo and Citra orders, and the pellets are do have the berry aroma when you rub them in your fingers. I also too, got a slight citrusy lemon smell. Then it has the grassy overtones. Slightly sweet, and pungent.

 

[RobertHSmith]

Here's the recipe for the American Amber hop bursted with Belma

5.5 gal, 83% eff.

68% 2-row
20% Munich
10% crystal 120
2% crystal 80

For the hops I divided the 2 oz I had into 4,1/2 oz portions
I'm brewing this now and plan on using them at 30, 20, 10, and 1 minute.

Yeast, S-05

OG 1.056, FG 1.015, 15 SRM, 33.4 IBU (tinseth), 5.5% abv, (4% abw)

I'll keg this in a couple of weeks and then give it a week to carbonate, so I should be able to tell everyone how it came out in 3 weeks.

Thanks for the hops Dave,

Today seemed like a good day to post up what my results were. I dry hopped with an additional 2 oz of leaf belma hops for 10 days. Now that it is carbonated and chilled in the keg, there is an orange aroma and taste. The flavor/aroma is there, but it doesn't have the nose or taste that a cascade or centennial does. The taste and aroma is a very light orange, almost star fruit like or some other tropical fruit. It's good, but not potent. I would recommend this hop for bittering and light flavor, but not aroma. I should do well when paired with a stronger flavor/aroma hop.

 

[LuckyBeagleBrewing]

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
16 lbs Pale Malt - 2 Row (Cargill) (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 92.1 %
12.0 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Cargill) (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.3 %
10.0 oz Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.6 %
1.00 oz Marynka [8.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 15.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Marynka [8.40 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 5 14.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 7.9 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 5.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 8 0.9 IBUs
2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 9 -
3.00 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Base recipe from NB Breakwater Pale Ale recipe.

I am lust getting this to secondary tonight but using 4 oz instead of 3. Tried a little during transfer and this is a very smooth bitterness. Almost a bit "Lemony" I would say this hop would be a good base bittering hop in the recipe I posted but keep the original citra dry hop. Guess I will see how this is after a couple weeks.

 

[ReverseApacheMaster]

Keep the reviews coming. I'm sitting on a couple pounds not really sure how I want to use them.

 

[chuckstout]

Ive also picked up a lb of Belma leaf. After reading most of the reviews ill be brewing up this
7lbs German Pils
1lb C10
Mashed 149
.5oz belma@30
.5oz belma@15
.5oz belma@0
1oz DH 4days
US-05

Edit. 5.5G 1.044SG, also increasing to 1.5oz@0

 

[snaps10]

Ive also picked up a lb of Belma leaf. After reading most of the reviews ill be brewing up this
7lbs German Pils
1lb C10
Mashed 149
.5oz belma@30
.5oz belma@15
.5oz belma@0
1oz DH 4days
US-05

How many gallons?
Sounds like a nice dry easy drinker to me. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[FATC1TY]

Keep the reviews coming. I'm sitting on a couple pounds not really sure how I want to use them.

I think a nice pale is something to start with.. It's what I did, but took it more than a pale, and less than an IPA.. Personal preference.

I think from what I've read, and found in using them myself.. They would be nice in a session ale, or a saison coupled with another hop.

 

[TimT]

I did a SMASH with these, CMC 2row, 4oz belma at 20min and less, wy1007. I get melon, tropical fruity and orange. I can see these being well liked when mixed with other American hops in a APA or IPA but I personally can't see much other use for them. One comment I got on it was "It is like drinking a flower" Distinctive and pleasant but not my thing. I am not a huge fan of American hops though so take this with a grain of salt if you are.

 

[Herky21]

After I read everyone's reviews I changed to an IPA and made this last night:

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.5 %
2 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 2 14.8 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt 90L (90.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.7 %
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - First Wort 80 min Hop 4 17.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 15.3 IBUs
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.00 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 15.2 IBUs
3.00 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 18.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [15.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 8.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 ml] Yeast 11 -

Est Original Gravity: 1.061 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG

Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.3 %
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.8 %
Bitterness: 75 IBUs
Calories: 178.9 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 7.7 SRM

Racked over to secondary today after 4 weeks of primary. Filtered with a nylon hop bag and Racked onto 3 oz. of Belma, whole hops. It is at the FG of 1.011 . The smack pack worked well and I used a swamp cooler for fermentation. Now with my new chest freezer I will be able to cold crash these leaves out. I cold crashed the primary at 40ish degrees for a week so it was remarkably clear, which was nice as well.

I have to say the flavor is fantastic. It is orange, yet spicy sort of like chinook. If this tastes as good carb'ed as it does right now I will definitely be making it again.

 

[Loneleigh]

Im sorry but I dont really like the Belma that much. I used a lot of it in the boil and then dryhopped with it. But I had to add some better hops to make it tatse decent. Gawd and I bought 2 lbs of this stuff too.

 

[jammin]

Im sorry but I dont really like the Belma that much. I used a lot of it in the boil and then dryhopped with it. But I had to add some better hops to make it tatse decent. Gawd and I bought 2 lbs of this stuff too.

it's quite clean when used for bittering. save it for that.