My dog is getting me in trouble

[ChshreCat]

You could keep the fence by the sidewalk and build a second fence a few feet inside your property. Then you put razor wire on the outside fence, electrify it and plant mines in the no-man's land in between. Maybe a machine gun tower at each corner for a nice finishing touch.

 

[j1laskey]

Training.

A solid recall so that the dog comes when called would have helped defuse the situation. Imagine how it would have played out if you called your dog, she came to you and you calmly put her in a stay. You would then be free to give the old bat a piece of your mind without fear of any unjust retribution. Granted that’s a challenging recall scenario with lots o’ distraction, but it can be done. With some Aussie in her, she may respond well to training.

I’m not laying blame with you or your dog, nor am I saying your dog did anything wrong. Unfortunately there are a lot of crazy people in this world. Training allows you to protect yourself and your dog by reliably extracting her from the situation.

+1 million
Totally agree. Dogs are animals. We are their masters. I love my dog and he loves me back. I know this because he listens and obeys. He is rewarded postively for his good behaviors. Like the post above, I am not laying blame on your dog either, but there is nothing worse than an unrulley dog (well maybe an unrulley child). A dogs behavior is a direct reflection of their owners training.

 

[Homercidal]

Well, it seems the lady simply forgot to take her stupid pills that morning.

Seriously, walking up to a fence with a barking dog behind it is just idiotic. And I am one person who thinks that if she crosses your fence and gets bit. Then too bad for her. Sorry for your loss (of fingers) lady!

Gadamm! is this what we call normal in the US now??

Am I the only one left in the world who would have just hurried my little dogs down the sidewalk? 9probably dragging them by the neck because you KNOW those little bastards think they are the baddest thing on 4 legs!)

 

[SwampassJ]

I know you feel like you have the right to use your front yard as you choose but it would solve the problem.

He should just keep the dog chained in the basement, what happens if the wench hops the fence and then makes it to the backyard. Hell I like to think I have the right to use my own bedroom, should give that up too.

 

[jgln]

He should just keep the dog chained in the basement, what happens if the wench hops the fence and then makes it to the backyard. Hell I like to think I have the right to use my own bedroom, should give that up too.

What???

His front yard fence buts up to public property and his dog does not sound well behaved enough to let it that close to the public passing by. One of the solutions he and the cop discussed was to put a fence in front of the other fence which is ridiculous. I was just offering a possible solution to his problem and apparently it IS HIS PROBLEM not the passer by. The lady may have caused the problem to escalate but she was still on public property which his dog invaded from what he describes and she reported. It sounds if neither she nor her dogs were trespassing. Not like she was beating his dog with a stick or something, she was just walking her dog on the public sidewalk. Sure, the decent thing would be to walk around but to suggest his dog has a right to attack other people's dogs that pass by on the sidewalk is crazy.

What are you talking about the lady hopping the fence? That is crazy talk. And the bathroom? Really??
You are taking my suggestion way too far.

 

[jgln]

This woman walks her dogs past my house at least a couple times a day and has done so for at least a few years, so I know that she knows my dog is there. I do have Beware Of Dog signs at either end of my fence. So with that in mind, that's just more of a precautionary measurement than anything, it still wouldn't absolve me of anything if she were to bite or hurt anyone. It's pretty dumb, but that's the way it goes.

I don't think following her home would be a good idea. That may lead into stalking/harrassing/intimidation issues. Even if she couldn't press charges directly to that cause, it wouldn't look good in other arenas if push came to shove.

As for training, I can't say she's great about it, but she mostly comes to me when I call her. On occasion, she'll get stubborn but that's usually when she's investigating something with her nose to the ground, but she'll come to me within about 15 seconds or so. Either way, it wouldn't have helped much as I was across the street talking to my neighbor. But I see the validity in your point, and I will continue to work with my dog to make that even better.

I like the security camera for several other reasons. Unfortunately, I don't know much about them. Can someone maybe point me to a good reference for just a single camera that I can maybe use my home computer to record to? Just a quick look around brought up entire systems (the smallest of which was a 4 channel setup with cameras and DVR for around $500) or just single cameras without any real info on how to use it. At least not to my uneducated knowledge. Hoping for something that's easy to set up, maybe I could do it on my own. Would you think that maybe a wildlife video camera might work? They only really turn on when there's movement. Or would I run out of recording space too quickly being in a city with plenty of foot traffic past my house?

Thanks for all the input and understanding so far. I didn't sleep well last night over this and its rather unusual for me to carry over such hostility and frustration after sleeping. If this is how I feel when my dog is "attacked" then I hate to think of how I would feel if it were one of my kids.

I gave you my suggestion of fencing your dog in the back yard if you have one based on what you first said here:

As she passed my fence, my dog started barking at her.

Now you say your dog was attacked? I don't recall you saying her dogs jumped your fence from the sidewalk. I am not defending her for instigating the situation but I want to get the story straight.

 

[jgln]

Well, it seems the lady simply forgot to take her stupid pills that morning.

Seriously, walking up to a fence with a barking dog behind it is just idiotic. And I am one person who thinks that if she crosses your fence and gets bit. Then too bad for her. Sorry for your loss (of fingers) lady!

Gadamm! is this what we call normal in the US now??

Am I the only one left in the world who would have just hurried my little dogs down the sidewalk? 9probably dragging them by the neck because you KNOW those little bastards think they are the baddest thing on 4 legs!)

True I agree that would be the smart thing to do but he did say this:

I sincerely think she's just a bitter, old, self righteous cranky woman

I know those dogs are small but there were two probably excited dogs and I have a dog (lab/chow mix, but on the small side) so I know how strong they can be especially when excited. I am a 5' 10" 210lb male pretty strong and man that dog can pull. I am sure those dogs could give an old lady a run for her money if she is indeed an old lady. Yes, we could argue if she can't control her dogs she should not have them.

I was not there so I am only going by what he stated and need to consider everything.

 

[ChshreCat]

What???

What are you talking about the lady hopping the fence? That is crazy talk. And the bathroom? Really??
You are taking my suggestion way too far.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sarcasm

 

[jgln]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sarcasm

Extreme sarcasm, not really making a valid point with it though.

 

[jmendez29]

Why is the dog in the front yard? Don't you have a back yard? If so is your front and back yard one big fenced in area? What I am getting at is if you have a back yard why not just confine your dog to the back yard? I know you feel like you have the right to use your front yard as you choose but it would solve the problem.

Ok. Stop with the front yard. I live on a corner lot and the "backyard" is the area between my house and garage on the side of my house. My front yard has no fence and on the opposite side of my house, I have a fence that abuts the neighbors privacy fence. So that makes a completely fenced in area for my dog to roam. The distance from my back deck (which stops at the corner of my house, it doesn't extend past it) to the public sidewalk is about 8 feet.

And what I meant by my dog being attacked was more along the lines of being cast in a bad light for doing what seems right to her. As others have stated, she is simply defending her territory. She knows that yard belongs to her "pack" and she will defend it as necessary.

 

[jmendez29]

He should just keep the dog chained in the basement, what happens if the wench hops the fence and then makes it to the backyard. Hell I like to think I have the right to use my own bedroom, should give that up too.

I could go off on that one as well. You would assume that you could legally park in your own driveway. Well, you get a ticket here for that one. I'm getting totally dramatic on that, there's a lot more to it, but it's a different story for a different day. I did catch your sarcasm and I agree. As jgln said, it doesn't really make a good point, but I get what you're saying. If she stays on the sidewalk, and my dog stays in the yard, there's no reason why we all can't get along. My dog has lived here for over 6 years, she hasn't ever bitten anyone and I wouldn't expect her to unless the situation legitimately warranted it. But this puts her at risk, and by default, me as well. And if I give that up, then where does it end? I bought the property, it's in my name, not the city's. But I still have kind of a beef about the easement. I technically don't own it but I have to maintain it? And the sidewalk too? WTF? I'll take that one, but I won't give up my backyard.

 

[Mermaid]

stupid humans. Not you.. HER.

My dog has "been there, done that"

He's a nuissance barker. Insane, but harmless. 30 lb. 11 year old American Eskimo dog who thinks he's a 60 lb. Samoyed who can pwn anything in his domain (because his primary objective is to serve and protect..). He jumped up and tried to nip someone who was riding their bike through an off-leash dog section of a public park. I apologized for the misunderstanding (gosh, there are a lot of dogs here off leash, maybe riding your bike a few hundred yards thataway would be better because if it wasn't my dog that chased you it might have been a bigger, crazier one). They took my telephone number, gave them the name of my vet (verify rabies vaccination) and I never heard another word.

I keep him up to date on his shots. Maybe put up a "beware of dog" sign on the fence - just to protect yourself against the really stupid ones.

Even the most sweet, laid back dog has been known to bark his or her fool head off when a "stranger" comes near his/her yard. Especially with 2 nosy punk ass dogs in tow.

She violated the boundary. She's at fault. I also like the hose idea

 

[jmendez29]

Well, I spent quite a bit of time outside yesterday afternoon hoping to see the woman and her dogs so I could talk to her about what happened. She never came by. I also talked to my neighbor about it as well and she told me that she would help me keep an eye out for her to make sure there aren't any more problems. I'm betting that this old woman will probably be choosing a different route to walk for a while. I guess we'll see. But if I ever do see her, I'm only going to ask her to keep moving and walk on the far side of the sidewalk. I don't really see that as asking her to put herself out of the way and I don't think it's an unreasonable request. But I'm not so sure I'll ever even get the chance.

Any which way, it won't happen this weekend as I'll be out of town. Thanks for everyones comments.

 

[jgln]

Ok. Stop with the front yard. I live on a corner lot and the "backyard" is the area between my house and garage on the side of my house. My front yard has no fence and on the opposite side of my house, I have a fence that abuts the neighbors privacy fence. So that makes a completely fenced in area for my dog to roam. The distance from my back deck (which stops at the corner of my house, it doesn't extend past it) to the public sidewalk is about 8 feet.

And what I meant by my dog being attacked was more along the lines of being cast in a bad light for doing what seems right to her. As others have stated, she is simply defending her territory. She knows that yard belongs to her "pack" and she will defend it as necessary.

Calm down, all I did was ask a series of questions and offer you a solution. I have no idea what you property looks like and without knowing that I tried to offer you a solution based on what I did know. You have now answered the question why that is not an option.

If I had a dog that barked at every passer by that had a dog I would have no problem confining my dog to my back yard if I had one. To me that would be the neighborly thing to do. You don't have that option and I have no more suggestions for you.

 

[dogtailale]

Get the camera like I posted earlier.

That is the BEST protection you can get for your best friend.

Right now your dealing with a bitch that can talk to the cop , court and lie threw her teeth. you best friend cant talk.

Next week you'll have some piece of **** kid throw rocks at you Best Friend then claim the dog bit her or him. Now what happens to you best friend.

Give your best friend the ability to be heard.

 

[Randar]

The vindictive side of me wants to go visit her lawn with a bag of fertilizer and write things into her lawn so it burns the grass.

Ahhh, the joys of annoying, nosy, bitter old ladies as neighbors. I have had cops come tell me to stop mowing my lawn at 6:10 because I am not allowed to operate "heavy machinery" past that time in my village, a village inspector that made me modify (and suggested I undertake a $2,000 storm drain project) because my sump overflow created a temporary puddle in MY back yard (I rectified it in a much cheaper way ), and of course the "Hop Trellis Incident". So far nothing really damaging and I have always tried to be nice to her regardless of this seemingly petty and totally unprovoked behavior.

My words of advice: Don't bother with retaliation because if they are so deranged, twisted, or self-centered to perform the behavior worthy of retaliation, they simply won't get it anyway. They're always the victim. They never did anything wrong. etc. You're the only one who is gonna lose anything by escalating.

 

[jmendez29]

Get the camera like I posted earlier.

That is the BEST protection you can get for your best friend.

Right now your dealing with a bitch that can talk to the cop , court and lie threw her teeth. you best friend cant talk.

Next week you'll have some piece of **** kid throw rocks at you Best Friend then claim the dog bit her or him. Now what happens to you best friend.

Give your best friend the ability to be heard.

That's my intention. Still looking for a single camera, simple setup. Hoping to find something that records to my computer so I don't have to have videotapes or a separate DVR.

My words of advice: Don't bother with retaliation because if they are so deranged, twisted, or self-centered to perform the behavior worthy of retaliation, they simply won't get it anyway. They're always the victim. They never did anything wrong. etc. You're the only one who is gonna lose anything by escalating.

Yeah. I ruled out retaliation a while ago. It didn't take me long to realize that I'm on the losing end of a battle if I fight by her rules. For now, I'm going with the protection route. I won't apologize to her, but I will ask politely that she just keep walking. I figure that will be politically correct enough to satisfy the police. And still looking for a video camera that I can afford. That will protect myself in a lot of ways. Maybe I can even get an insurance discount for it.

 

[Yankeehillbrewer]

This kind of crap makes me glad I live out in the Country.

 

[MetallHed]

I have a wireless camera setup thats extremely easy.

It has a decent range, but not too terribly long, so you'd want the reciever as close as possible. I had the camera on the front porch and the reciever in the kitchen at the back of the house, through multiple walls, and it worked fine. I believe it's weather-proof too, but I'd have to check.

The reciever plugs into the yellow video jack on your TV and you can record it however you want. I had mine plugged into a 9" TV/VCR combo and recorded onto VHS tapes. Just had 2 tapes per day, AM/PM and rotated them. If you have a newer technology for recording (DVD) it would be easier, but for me the VHS tapes worked.

Oh it also has infra sensors on it so it works in pitch black, not that the lady would be walking at night.. but it's there.

PM me if yer interested.

 

[Beernip]

That's my intention. Still looking for a single camera, simple setup. Hoping to find something that records to my computer so I don't have to have videotapes or a separate DVR.



Yeah. I ruled out retaliation a while ago. It didn't take me long to realize that I'm on the losing end of a battle if I fight by her rules. For now, I'm going with the protection route. I won't apologize to her, but I will ask politely that she just keep walking. I figure that will be politically correct enough to satisfy the police. And still looking for a video camera that I can afford. That will protect myself in a lot of ways. Maybe I can even get an insurance discount for it.

Well, retaliation would be wrong but next time you see her walking her dogs. You should reach down and nick your shin. Than rub some bacon all over it. Now go up and apologize to her her about any misunderstanding. The minute her yappers make it near your leg reach down and grab your shin and yell ouch convincingly. File a report. You've now reach a M.A.D. scenario.