Most annoying response when you tell someone you're a homebrewer?

[clarkpadgett]

My father-in-law always refers to homebrew as 'moohshine'.

 

[hou_me]

Not really annoying, but my neighbor says I look like a mad scientist out there. He doesn't have any problem drinking what I make though.


-ben

 

[Zombie Zero]

I got another one of these yesterday: "won't that s*** kill you or make you go blind, if you screw it up?"

Driving a car daily
Eating at McDonald's
Petting a strange dog

Three things more likely to kill or blind you than homebrewing.

 

[unionrdr]

It never ceases to amaze me how people confuse that distilling bit with home brew. It's the first & last runnings that are methyl alcohol & poisonous.

 

[podz]

That stuff will make you go blind, boy!

 

[icebob]

sucks that you can't make Bud...

 

[wbarber69]

sucks that you can't make Bud...

Like I'd want to, first of all. Secondly it can't be that hard. Just buy the cheapest grain from the worst supplier use any kind of ale yeast and dump as much beechwood as you can fit into the carboy and let it ferment for 3 days. Then cold filter it 4 times to make sure there is no flavor left.

 

[Hamaki]

Like I'd want to, first of all. Secondly it can't be that hard. Just buy the cheapest grain from the worst supplier use any kind of ale yeast and dump as much beechwood as you can fit into the carboy and let it ferment for 3 days. Then cold filter it 4 times to make sure there is no flavor left.

Sure, but can you make it the same every time and from breweries in different locations? It may not be what you or I would want to brew but I'll give them their due respect.

 

[brewman551]

"Let's have a party, and you can bring the beer." Uh, no. Homebrew isn't necessarily expensive, but it's not free either. With all the equipment you have to buy, it can get expensive, not to mention all the time invested. I will gladly trade though.


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[opiate82]

Like I'd want to, first of all. Secondly it can't be that hard. Just buy the cheapest grain from the worst supplier use any kind of ale yeast and dump as much beechwood as you can fit into the carboy and let it ferment for 3 days. Then cold filter it 4 times to make sure there is no flavor left.

Everything that I have heard about Budweiser (including comments from former AB brewers such as Mitch Steele who have every reason to throw them under the bus) have said that their ingredients, brewing methods and quality control are all top notch. You might not like the product but implying that they use cheap, inferior supplies is unfair criticism. The fact that they can make Budweiser, in the quantities that they make it, taste exactly the same across 13 different breweries is a commendable feat.

Now their advertising and political practices are (in my opinion) reprehensible and is reason enough to hate on Budweiser. But if you are going to hate on a company, at least do it for the right reasons.

 

[Black Island Brewer]

That stuff will make you go blind, boy!

I thought it just have you hairy palms...

 

[wbarber69]

Everything that I have heard about Budweiser (including comments from former AB brewers such as Mitch Steele who have every reason to throw them under the bus) have said that their ingredients, brewing methods and quality control are all top notch. You might not like the product but implying that they use cheap, inferior supplies is unfair criticism. The fact that they can make Budweiser, in the quantities that they make it, taste exactly the same across 13 different breweries is a commendable feat.



Now their advertising and political practices are (in my opinion) reprehensible and is reason enough to hate on Budweiser. But if you are going to hate on a company, at least do it for the right reasons.

When the Germans bought out Budweiser they put buds longest running grain suppliers out if business because they found a cheaper alternative. They no longer use specific hops farms either. Everything is generic and cheap. The only quality control they have is wether or not it tastes like bud. If it fails that quality test then they call it keystone. Thy use beechwood, not to add flavor but to add surface area so that the fermentation process can be sped up. And they do triple cold filter, for flavor, which in my experience reduces certain flavor properties. All that aside I hate Budweiser because it tastes like ****.

 

[podz]

Everything that I have heard about Budweiser (including comments from former AB brewers such as Mitch Steele who have every reason to throw them under the bus) have said that their ingredients, brewing methods and quality control are all top notch.

...

But if you are going to hate on a company, at least do it for the right reasons.

If you consider rice a top notch ingredient, then more power to you. I don't know what the hell they call it if they try to sell it in Germany (or Belgium), but they can't legally call it beer since it's made with rice.

 

[unionrdr]

I was researching yeasts for my 2nd version of my dampfbier yesterday & spotted Budvar yeast. That might be interesting to try when I get some temp control setup. The recipe for the original Budvar might be fun to try.

 

[NickTheGreat]

Everything that I have heard about Budweiser (including comments from former AB brewers such as Mitch Steele who have every reason to throw them under the bus) have said that their ingredients, brewing methods and quality control are all top notch. You might not like the product but implying that they use cheap, inferior supplies is unfair criticism. The fact that they can make Budweiser, in the quantities that they make it, taste exactly the same across 13 different breweries is a commendable feat.

Now their advertising and political practices are (in my opinion) reprehensible and is reason enough to hate on Budweiser. But if you are going to hate on a company, at least do it for the right reasons.

Yeah, the cheap crappy ingredients go into Busch and Natty :fro:

 

[m1batt1]

If it fails that quality test then they call it keystone.

So if it doesn't taste good enough to call it Budweiser they sell it to Coors so they can sell it as Keystone?

 

[Orthobrewsky]

If you read the style guide for Lite American Lager, it becomes clear why it is hard to make. It specifically stipulates very low malt flavor, very low hop presence of any kind, and very low yeast character. Basically, your goal must be to make beer without any flavors of any kind sneaking in. It takes just the right kind of ingredients and process to accomplish such a feat.

 

[wbarber69]

If you read the style guide for Lite American Lager, it becomes clear why it is hard to make. It specifically stipulates very low malt flavor, very low hop presence of any kind, and very low yeast character. Basically, your goal must be to make beer without any flavors of any kind sneaking in. It takes just the right kind of ingredients and process to accomplish such a feat.

Basically high fructose corn syrup and unfiltered water. Filter out any hop flavor whatsoever and then have a fleet of Clydesdales piss in the tank for top off.…

 

[troy2000]

Everything that I have heard about Budweiser (including comments from former AB brewers such as Mitch Steele who have every reason to throw them under the bus) have said that their ingredients, brewing methods and quality control are all top notch. You might not like the product but implying that they use cheap, inferior supplies is unfair criticism. The fact that they can make Budweiser, in the quantities that they make it, taste exactly the same across 13 different breweries is a commendable feat.

Now their advertising and political practices are (in my opinion) reprehensible and is reason enough to hate on Budweiser. But if you are going to hate on a company, at least do it for the right reasons.

Budweiser isn't what I'd choose to make. But it isn't offensive to me; I'll buy it with a clear conscience when I don't have a homebrew within reach.

 

[W0GWT]

I'd rather have a Budweiser than a Leinenkugel Shandy or a Bud Light Lime. Both are undrinkable IMO.

 

[troy2000]

I'd rather have a Budweiser than a Leinenkugel Shandy or a Bud Light Lime. Both are undrinkable IMO.

I have a confession to make. Sometimes when I get off work all tired, hot and sweaty, I'll stop and buy a 25 oz can of Bud Mang-O-Rita. It may be junk, but flipping on the A/C in my motor home's living room, and settling down under it with that sticky-sweet stuff poured over crushed ice, is a little slice of heaven when it's 105 degrees outside.... and believe me, 25% of an 8% ABV drink sucked down in a relatively short time will definitely help you unwind.

The odd thing is that normally I don't have a sweet tooth at all. Aside from the occasional home-made mint julep, my idea of a mixed drink is adding a little water and ice to some bourbon, rye or scotch.

 

[ericbw]

If you consider rice a top notch ingredient, then more power to you. I don't know what the hell they call it if they try to sell it in Germany (or Belgium), but they can't legally call it beer since it's made with rice.

Why is rice not top notch? Is it when they make sake?

 

[podz]

I have a confession to make. Sometimes when I get off work all tired, hot and sweaty, I'll stop and buy a 25 oz can of Bud Mang-O-Rita.

I had to google that one. Never heard of it before!

 

[urbanmyth]

If you consider rice a top notch ingredient, then more power to you. I don't know what the hell they call it if they try to sell it in Germany (or Belgium), but they can't legally call it beer since it's made with rice.

Rice actually cost more than malt these days. If you don't believe a dude like Mitch Steele when he says that AB does all they can to keep quality and consistency as high as they can, you're out of your mind.

And Belgium is probably #2 in the world when it comes to adjunct use. Ever see a recipe for a tripel or a golden strong? 20%-30% beet sugar. Are these automatically substandard beers because they use something other than malt? No, they produce some of the most well respected beers in the entire world. I don't get the hate for adjuncts. I've had multiple Classic American Lagers that have 30% corn grits in the grist that are absolutely stunning, full flavored and bodied beers.

 

[troy2000]

I had to google that one. Never heard of it before!

They also have Lime-A-Rita, Strawberita, and Raz-ber-ita. Never tried the Lime; the Strawberry is OK; I was seriously disappointed with the Raz. I've tried raspberry-flavored products from Happy Days dipping tobacco on down the line over the years, and this was the first one I didn't like.

 

[thisisbeer]

When the Germans bought out Budweiser they put buds longest running grain suppliers out if business because they found a cheaper alternative. They no longer use specific hops farms either. Everything is generic and cheap. The only quality control they have is wether or not it tastes like bud. If it fails that quality test then they call it keystone. Thy use beechwood, not to add flavor but to add surface area so that the fermentation process can be sped up. And they do triple cold filter, for flavor, which in my experience reduces certain flavor properties. All that aside I hate Budweiser because it tastes like ****.

1. When did germans buy Budweiser?
2. Where did you get the information about them finding a cheaper alternative for everything?
3. Did Anheuser-Busch buy Keystone from Coors?
4. the beechwood chips are boiled so they don't attribute any flavor. There used for surface area to allow the yeast to flocculate faster and help the yeast take up off flavors faster. Not ferment faster.
5. They do use some older techniques that your favorite craft breweries don't even use like krausening to help with off flavors and to begin carbonating the beer.

I'm not trying to be a d*ck but we should all thank AB and Millercoors for where beer is at today. They funded a lot of money for scientific research in malting, hops, wort production and other things. You can get a PhD in Malting in the US because of AB wanting to keep consistency up. Even if people hate them they are a necessary evil.

 

[wbarber69]

Yeah and they profit from every beer sold ever by any brewery in the us. Since their lobbyist have the ability to keep stupid laws on the books making it illegal to sell any alcoholic substance unless it passes through a distributor associated with AB or MC, who in themselves are monopolies allowed to operate within the US even though monopolies are illegal. Thanks AB for making it possible for us to make beer…

 

[unionrdr]

We need another president like Teddy Roosevelt again. He broke up 25 monopolies in this country & we need that again. Beatrice for one. Sorry for getting political, but that's where it's at.

 

[thisisbeer]

In Texas we have distributors that are not owned at all by AB or MC....

But you're absolutely correct! Now we can rag on them for things they actually do that negatively affect craft beer! Forcing to distribute sucks. But when you name off tons of false information it makes your point seem very uncredible. Also they are not a monopoly. That means that one company owns most of the industry. I think the word you were looking for is oligopoly. Thats where a group of small companies control most of the industry. Just like wireless providers, movie studios, high speed internet companies...

Also that's not illegal...

Now back on track. Lets make fun of the people that drink their Beer

 

[wbarber69]

When 2 companies dominate an entire nation (used to be 3), one of which (in some ways both) are partnered with sister companies internationally, it's more than an oligopoly. It's a conspiracy against the very people they call consumers. I agree that if you want to profit from a brewery you should at least be held up to safety standards. But the hoops you have to jump through from the ATF is bs, then to have do the same at the state level is redundant bs. Just to be told that every dollar you make has to go through another companies hands is total bs. And trumps the evil of a monopoly.