Most annoying response when you tell someone you're a homebrewer?

[seatazzz]

My other neighbor (the very nice ones that we go camping with and hang out with), "haven't you brewed that mac n jack clone you promised me last year?" He drinks mostly CL but absolutely loves manny's and mac n jacks....and I finally have one on tap that he'll like. The other comment I get is "holy crap you're brewing AGAIN?" or "I can smell that across the street and it smells great". at least I have a couple of nice neighbors....

 

[kh54s10]

I don't know who you 47 pages of people hang out with but when I mention I brew beer, most say "That's cool, when can I try some?" Or, "What kinds of beer do you brew"

I guess the most annoying is "Why don't you sell it?"

 

[Saboral]

But he lives in Wisconsin. He is legally allowed to drink at 14, both in private and in a public establishment (such as a bar), when accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. Could he have his parent or legal guardian make the account, and accompany him when browsing the forums?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Wisconsin#Drinking_age

Why isn’t anyone else bringing this up. It’s not like this guy was GaryOak, he is from Wisconsin where legal age is 14 when accompanied by parent or guardian, isn’t banning him likely to turn him away from the homebrewing community as a whole?

 

[Murphys_Law]

Whoa....my husband ain't that fancy, he calls me his brew b***h. I can't say what I call his lazy non-brewing a**.

I had a buddy who called a bartender a “bar b***h” once. He got ‘86’d from the bar!

 

[Genghis]

But he lives in Wisconsin. He is legally allowed to drink at 14, both in private and in a public establishment (such as a bar), when accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. Could he have his parent or legal guardian make the account, and accompany him when browsing the forums?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Wisconsin#Drinking_age

Why isn’t anyone else bringing this up. It’s not like this guy was GaryOak, he is from Wisconsin where legal age is 14 when accompanied by parent or guardian, isn’t banning him likely to turn him away from the homebrewing community as a whole?

Dougie, can you clarify? ToS seems to say the kid's legit unless the parents told you to kick him off.

3.1. HOMEBREWTALK.COM's Websites are not intended for or directed to persons who are minors (typically persons under the age of 18, but may vary depending on where you live). Use of HOMEBREWTALK.COM's Websites is restricted to persons legally permitted to enter into a binding contract. By accessing a HOMEBREWTALK.COM Website, you represent that you are legally permitted to enter into a binding contract (18 years of age or older in most jurisdictions) or are at least 13 years of age and are only accessing the Website under the supervision and with the consent of your parent or guardian, who agrees to be bound by this Agreement, and that any information you provide us is not inaccurate, deceptive, or misleading.

 

[andrewmaixner]

Why isn’t anyone else bringing this up. It’s not like this guy was GaryOak, he is from Wisconsin where legal age is 14 when accompanied by parent or guardian, isn’t banning him likely to turn him away from the homebrewing community as a whole?

Probably not a big deal. if he's smart he just learned how to fly under the radar -- DADT

 

[Kent88]

Why isn’t anyone else bringing this up. It’s not like this guy was GaryOak, he is from Wisconsin where legal age is 14 when accompanied by parent or guardian, isn’t banning him likely to turn him away from the homebrewing community as a whole?

As a resident of Wisconsin and a homebrewer, I'm ok with the ban. We have no way of knowing if his parents are aware of his activities. When you have to start asking about that then I think we're better safe than sorry.

I would've had to think harder about it if he were 18 or 19.

 

[ShareBrewing]

Working in the bar/alcohol industry, I don’t think parental consent matters, even state to state. If a 14 year old kid came into my brewery asking for a beer, even if it were legal and their parent have consent, I wouldn’t serve them. The likelihood of me going to jail, losing my job, and paying thousands of dollars in fines is much higher than the likelihood that kid gets served legally and everything is alright.

There are many laws in specific states that allow minors to do things with parental consent, like child marriage. Does that make them right? No. When adhering to federal laws, like most websites often do, its better to be safe than sorry.

Plus who wants to be taking brewing advise from a 14 year old? If they want to expand their knowledge, they can easily buy a book, which will be much more beneficial for them.

Sorry, not trying to be an a-hole, I started my passion for beer early in life and I don’t mean to diminish their passion. But as my family members (who work in federal court) say, “ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.” But seriously, if your kid did something that carries a $5K fine (which is HBT’s fine for a repeat offense of this), would you want your kid to do it?

 

[bleme]

Plus who wants to be taking brewing advise from a 14 year old?

If he had experience in something that I didn't, I'd listen to him. I can guarantee I've read plenty of posts on here from people with less smarts. Who knows, he might be a child prodigy, the Mozart of brewing...

But it's not like anything is really stopping him. I'm sure he created a new account 2 minutes later and has been here ever since. He just claims to be 50 now.

 

[andrewmaixner]

... When adhering to federal laws...

Not arguing with your main point, but, this is not a federal law. Rather, since the federal government has no constitutional authority to regulate the drinking age, they used the strategy of holding back the return of your tax money, in the form of state-level highway funding subsidization, to extort the states to all fall in line with what the feds wanted them to do. Wisconsin was the last holdout, and still has some "stop telling me what to do" intricacies on the books.

I know that entire body of law in the US is a ridiculously complex thing with more than anyone could ever learn in a lifetime, but it is always good to know the general high-level things about areas in which one is interested, so I wanted to mention this.

...But seriously, if your kid did something that carries a $5K fine (which is HBT’s fine for a repeat offense of this),...

What!? Citation needed?

 

[Kent88]

My opinion hasn't changed, I'm still good with the ban, but I also hope that he keeps learning about brewing under the supervision of responsible adults who interact with him IRL rather than in an online forum.

But I thought I'd point out that I have a feeling Sprint10 has a new list of the most annoying responses when he tells people he is a homebrewer.

 

[Genghis]

What!? Citation needed?

This.

 

[CavA3R4]

I was talking to a group of folks at a car show and was telling them about homebrew.
there was a psychologist in the group that SCREAMED at me that any one that had TWO beers was a total alcoholic!!
That was kind of the end of the conversation!!

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

I was talking to a group of folks at a car show and was telling them about homebrew.
there was a psychologist in the group that SCREAMED at me that any one that had TWO beers was a total alcoholic!!
That was kind of the end of the conversation!!

Did you ask him why he studied psychology?

 

[gunhaus]

I don't get annoyed really with some of the comments that crop up - in fact most of the time comments are positive or curious, not negative. But the mistaken beliefs about legality do still come up, and I really crack up over them. A couple years ago we threw a BBQ for some friends, customers, and business associates. We put out 8 different kegs of home brew and an assortment of commercial beverages. Everybody gave the HB a go and many stayed with it the whole time - EXCEPT for one guys wife. She was absolutely freaked out, and was POSITIVE we were ALL going to jail. She looked right at me and said, "How can YOU even think of messing around with this stuff? Aren't you afraid THEY will find out? What about your licenses, what about your business?" ( I have several federal licenses and all the attendant scrutiny that comes with them-BTW)

I rather stupidly asked,"Who?"

The cops - the Feds, what if they catch you with all this stuff - they'll take everything!!!!"

"Uhm, brewing your own beer and wine is completely legal."

"No"

"My father-in-law is right over there. He is a cop. He is drinking it too."

At this she really freaked out. She just refused to believe making beer was legal. She was sure we were all bootleggers, and that we were essentially doomed. Her poor hubby just rolled his eyes, kept drinking my brown ale. And let her pout about it. My FIL is a pretty kind guy, and he tried to explain that it was all perfectly good, but there was ZERO chance she was gonna buy it. And she sure as hell was not going to be one of those that got busted for using!!

This is probably the most extreme I have seen someone react like this - But i have seen similar on several occasions, and I know I have neighbors that STILL believe this is all bootlegging.

 

[Rodent]

"Hey, if you ever need somebody to help you with taste testing give me a shout"

me: "I could sure use some help tomorrow cleaning everything and getting it ready for my next brew day. We can sample while we scrub. You available?"

"Sorry, man, I'm booked for the next few weeks. You're still welcome to drop some off at the door anytime tho"

>:[

 

[Kee]

I was talking to a group of folks at a car show and was telling them about homebrew.
there was a psychologist in the group that SCREAMED at me that any one that had TWO beers was a total alcoholic!!
That was kind of the end of the conversation!!

Hopefully he wasn't a clinical psychologist. Maybe he just does experiments with rats (poor rats). Either way, it sounds like he wasn't paying attention in class.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I was talking to a group of folks at a car show and was telling them about homebrew.
there was a psychologist in the group that SCREAMED at me that any one that had TWO beers was a total alcoholic!!
That was kind of the end of the conversation!!

I'd have said anybody that screams over talking about beer is a fvcking psycho.

How can some arbitrary rule define somebody's complex behavioral/social problem?

That means if everybody who drinks beer is an alcoholic; Then everybody who eats two helpings of potato salad has a eating disorder. Everybody who drives two miles over the speed limit is a suicidal maniac. Everybody who has two children is sex addict.

That's completely moronic. They must not be very good at their psychologist job if they pedal that brainwashing garbage.

 

[Boomer]

I’m not gonna read 47 pages of this to see if it’s been mentioned, although I’m sure it has...

I can’t stand telling someone I make beer only to get a 30 minute lesson on how it’s illegal.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I’m not gonna read 47 pages of this to see if it’s been mentioned, although I’m sure it has...

I can’t stand telling someone I make beer only to get a 30 minute lesson on how it’s illegal.

Can't be said enough...

It's a 30 minute reminder saying how stupid they are as they spout out crap they know nothing about as if they're smart and need to school you. Imagine living life as an idiot. How blissful it must be. An utterly stress free life.

One disclaimer here, I'm not making fun of special needs people here. I am making fun of people who act like they know stuff but they really don't but think it's ok to lecture you.

New Rule - Post this, every time you hear isn't it illegal.

EM OH OH EN spells smart. - LOL

This is from Steven King's movie "The Stand".

 

[Schlenkerla]

My opinion hasn't changed, I'm still good with the ban, but I also hope that he keeps learning about brewing under the supervision of responsible adults who interact with him IRL rather than in an online forum.

But I thought I'd point out that I have a feeling Sprint10 has a new list of the most annoying responses when he tells people he is a homebrewer.

@doug293cz

Any minor on HBT should be banned. I don't want to anonymously help a minor make alcohol. Then get sued by some outraged parent because I helped him do so. Especially if something bad happens as result of it. Consider it for all of your own protection and the community.

 

[jack13]

Damn, I haven't had ANYONE think homebrewing is illegal. But I'll definitely play along if someone does. What a cool way to be an outlaw.

...yeah, that's right I'm a bootlegger.

I can get hard time for this. And community service!

 

[mongoose33]

Damn, I haven't had ANYONE think homebrewing is illegal. But I'll definitely play along if someone does. What a cool way to be an outlaw.

...yeah, that's right I'm a bootlegger.

I can get hard time for this. And community service!

I think you should extend that idea further: ask them to keep it quiet so as to not get you in trouble.

I haven't had anyone ask me about the legality of this--perhaps because I live in Wisconsin--but if anyone does, I'm going to swear them to secrecy.

 

[Sean McColgan]

The most annoying thing I hear when I tell someone I home brew is "how long does take? isn't easier to just buy beer from the store"

 

[Jayjay1976]

When I hand someone a bottle of homebrew and a glass but they instead drink it straight from the bottle. Glug glug glug. All that yeast sediment swirls up and dulls the flavor. I try to explain that "this is fresh, whole beer. It hasn't been processed and it is all natural, but you should avoid the yeast."

"Why, will it make me sick?"

"No, it just tastes better and looks clearer if you pour slowly and carefully leaving the last bit behind."

"Is it pro-biotic?"

"Sorta."

Glug glug glug again.

Wtf? I want them to experience the beer as I intended, but I don't want to pour beers for people like they were children.

 

[Lefou]

Damn, I haven't had ANYONE think homebrewing is illegal. But I'll definitely play along if someone does. What a cool way to be an outlaw.

...yeah, that's right I'm a bootlegger.

I can get hard time for this. And community service!

Plenty of bootleggers and scofflaws in my family, but that was during Prohibition. Some of them were doing it BEFORE Prohibition when the morally offended took a dim religious view. More or less, I get attitude that homebrewing is an oddity but that's mostly from people who find it easier just to buy some swill from a store.
In my opinion, they are the same people who'd rather open a cold can of soup or buy a limp sandwich rather than enjoy cooking.

 

[Lefou]

When I hand someone a bottle of homebrew and a glass but they instead drink it straight from the bottle. Glug glug glug.

Savages. SAVAGES!

 

[gunhaus]

I think the illegal thing comes up a lot. My brother-in-law's oldest brother is an ATF field agent, and he got a call from a Sheriff Dept in lower Michigan about a possible bootlegging operation. One neighbor ratted on the other, and the dept did a drive by and thought it looked suspicious so they called him for advice since this is a federal issue. He rode with the deputy involved and did another drive by, and he said you could see from a block away it was all a guys brew sculpture and table in his garage. STILL they had to stop and talk to the guy so the deputy would be satisfied is was brew gear not some kind of still. The guy involved thought it was hilarious! But what a waste of time and resources. Meth also comes up a lot i guess as well. Several of my regular customers are cops, and when they find out i brew it seems like they all have some story about getting a call to investigate a possible meth lab only to have it turn out to be some guy brewing beer or fermenting out some wine or cider.

 

[Brewbuzzard]

The most annoying thing I hear when I tell someone I home brew is "how long does take? isn't easier to just buy beer from the store"

How about "Oh your brewing today, I'll come help and then we can drink some of it".

 

[Brewbuzzard]

This one is a good one. My brew buddy and I were drinking at Whole foods and talking to this young woman who stated every other word that she was a beer snob. When we told her we were home Brewers she said, "Oh, I don't like Homebrew it doesn't taste good". I told her that person may have been new to brewing. And she said well what's it supposed to taste like? A well educated beer snob she was.