American Wheat Beer Mosaic Honey Wheat

[ryguy1325]

So I tried the finished product and it's excellent! I dry hopped as well during secondary fermentation and I like that even with all the hop additions it doesn't have the same bite as an IPA cause of the mosaic hops...it's definitely a must to do again!

 

[HumulusHead]

Reminder to me to brew this, this weekend!

Can't recall if I have mosaic hops left, but if not, I will be trying this with citra. Would have to adjust some ibu I'm sure.

This is what I've been lookin for to brew! I'll update with results

 

[HumulusHead]

Well I found a 2oz pack of mosaic in the freezer! Things are good to go!

I also found a 4oz pack of belma that I forgot I bought. Debating trying that. Never used it and have been looking for an excuse to use it...

 

[Rivenin]

So I tried the finished product and it's excellent! I dry hopped as well during secondary fermentation and I like that even with all the hop additions it doesn't have the same bite as an IPA cause of the mosaic hops...it's definitely a must to do again!

Sweet! Glad you enjoyed it! And totally agree on the IBUs of this... it's around 20 IIRC which keeps everything toned down a bit

 

[Rivenin]

Well I found a 2oz pack of mosaic in the freezer! Things are good to go!

I also found a 4oz pack of belma that I forgot I bought. Debating trying that. Never used it and have been looking for an excuse to use it...

Awesome! defiantly

If you do use the belma, i'm super curious how it turns out. I have a few OZ in the freezer that a friend gave me and have felt the urge to use a few

 

[cuda6pak]

Just brewed this exact recipe this past weekend and pitched S-05. Planning on the dry hop as well, looking forward to it!

 

[Rivenin]

Awesome! hopefully you'll enjoy it

 

[Helly]

Just found this today and I have mosaic hops in the freezer. It sounds like a great recipe. I hope to try it soon.

 

[bwints]

Brewed this last Monday, messed up and added .5oz for the FWH which will put my ibu aroun 35. oh well. thanks for sharing!

 

[Shenanigans]

I'm going to have a BBQ party next month and already have a cream ale and a pale ale with Cascade and Citra on the go. I'd really like to add a wheat beer to the line up and this looks like a candidate. However I only have 1oz of Mosaic.

I have so much hops I am reluctant to buy more until I have used some of them up.

I think I'll bitter with magnum and then a 1/2 ounce each of Amarillo and Mosaic at 15 min and flame out.
How does that sound or are there other hops that would combine better with Mosaic?

I also have summit, cascade, Willamette, citra, Chinook, galaxy, belma, falconer's flight, nugget, northern brewer, simcoe.

I would preferably only use one of these so that I still get the Mosaic flavour.

Thanks!

 

[Rivenin]

I'm going to have a BBQ party next month and already have a cream ale and a pale ale with Cascade and Citra on the go. I'd really like to add a wheat beer to the line up and this looks like a candidate. However I only have 1oz of Mosaic.

I have so much hops I am reluctant to buy more until I have used some of them up.

I think I'll bitter with magnum and then a 1/2 ounce each of Amarillo and Mosaic at 15 min and flame out.
How does that sound or are there other hops that would combine better with Mosaic?

I also have summit, cascade, Willamette, citra, Chinook, galaxy, belma, falconer's flight, nugget, northern brewer, simcoe.

I would preferably only use one of these so that I still get the Mosaic flavour.

Thanks!

Anything super tropical would work awesomely! out of those i'd be leaning toward galaxy at first choice or citra as my second choice.

The bittering of course, shouldn't matter much as long as it's clean and you keep the IBU's in check! Keep us posted on the modifications and how it turned out!

 

[Rivenin]

Just found this today and I have mosaic hops in the freezer. It sounds like a great recipe. I hope to try it soon.

Awesome! it's such a great hop to have around... let us know how it works!

 

[Rivenin]

Brewed this last Monday, messed up and added .5oz for the FWH which will put my ibu aroun 35. oh well. thanks for sharing!

Honestly, that will still be great - Humans have a threshold of like 5 or so IBU's on either side that we cannot really detect, so it's not too much over, just pretend it's now more of a pale ale with a heavy wheat base

super curious how that turns out with the larger IBUs though!

 

[Helly]

Awesome! it's such a great hop to have around... let us know how it works!

It's next on my list. Not sure if I'll be able to brew this weekend or not.

 

[Shenanigans]

Anything super tropical would work awesomely! out of those i'd be leaning toward galaxy at first choice or citra as my second choice.

The bittering of course, shouldn't matter much as long as it's clean and you keep the IBU's in check! Keep us posted on the modifications and how it turned out!

Thanks for the reply but I think now I might bite the bullet actually buy 1/2 a pound of Mosaic. I really want to try your original recipe first and then maybe experiment more if I make a second batch. I brewed a Rye IPA with Mosaic once and I can see how it would work so well here as a crowd pleaser. The perceived sweetness and the tasty aroma should indeed hit a sweet spot that both men and women would like.

The only change I'll make is to use Weyermann Abbey malt instead of the Honey Malt because I cant get that where I live.

I will brew it around the start of next month. :rockin:

 

[bwints]

Honestly, that will still be great - Humans have a threshold of like 5 or so IBU's on either side that we cannot really detect, so it's not too much over, just pretend it's now more of a pale ale with a heavy wheat base

super curious how that turns out with the larger IBUs though!

We'll tried a few pints today and this turned out great!

Could use some more time in the keg but couldn't help myself hah. I think you were right, with the .5 oz FWH it pushed this closer to a pale ale.

I brewed this recipe again last Wednesday with the original hop schedule to compare.

Great recipe Rivenin! Thanks for sharing, this will be in my lineup from now on. Cheers!

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[Rivenin]

that looks GREAT! Thanks for brewing!

Finally, a picture! Glad you enjoy it, i need to get back and brew this again myself soon!

 

[Rivenin]

It's next on my list. Not sure if I'll be able to brew this weekend or not.

Hopefully you had a chance! if not, no worry, it's a quick turn around beer.

Thanks for the reply but I think now I might bite the bullet actually buy 1/2 a pound of Mosaic. I really want to try your original recipe first and then maybe experiment more if I make a second batch. I brewed a Rye IPA with Mosaic once and I can see how it would work so well here as a crowd pleaser. The perceived sweetness and the tasty aroma should indeed hit a sweet spot that both men and women would like.

The only change I'll make is to use Weyermann Abbey malt instead of the Honey Malt because I cant get that where I live.

I will brew it around the start of next month. :rockin:

Sad on the honey malt, it's a VERY different kind of malt. I've never tried abbey before, but either way it should turn out great! Keep us posted!

 

[Helly]

Hopefully you had a chance! if not, no worry, it's a quick turn around beer.

Not yet, we had a big home improvement project take up the whole weekend. I'm shooting for next Saturday morning. Gonna brew this and a red rye IPA if all goes well.

 

[Singletrack]

Just finished a bomber of Mosaic pale ale. I use rye instead of wheat, so obviously this is a different beer, but this thread caused me to consider:

1. Could I brew just about anything with this hop and still love it? Say, leftover meatloaf? (Mash meatloaf for at least 120 min.)
2. Does anyone get the sense upon the first drink that this hop needs to be paired with another hop to complete the ecstasy? If so, what is the second hop? I always change my mind about this by the time I finish, btw.
3. Rivenin, your recipe looks like one I'd like to try with my remaining Mosaics. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Helly]

Just finished a bomber of Mosaic pale ale. I use rye instead of wheat, so obviously this is a different beer, but this thread caused me to consider:

1. Could I brew just about anything with this hop and still love it? Say, leftover meatloaf? (Mash meatloaf for at least 120 min.)
2. Does anyone get the sense upon the first drink that this hop needs to be paired with another hop to complete the ecstasy? If so, what is the second hop? I always change my mind about this by the time I finish, btw.
3. Rivenin, your recipe looks like one I'd like to try with my remaining Mosaics. Thanks for sharing.

I think I agree. I haven't brewed with it yet but I've dry hopped and I've also loved every commercial brew I've had with mosaic. I think Mosaic & Citra is a great pairing a la Fresh Squeezed IPA.

Please post extract version of this meatloaf IPA recipe.

 

[Rivenin]

Just finished a bomber of Mosaic pale ale. I use rye instead of wheat, so obviously this is a different beer, but this thread caused me to consider:

1. Could I brew just about anything with this hop and still love it? Say, leftover meatloaf? (Mash meatloaf for at least 120 min.)

YES - although it might have more body then what was originally intended

2. Does anyone get the sense upon the first drink that this hop needs to be paired with another hop to complete the ecstasy? If so, what is the second hop? I always change my mind about this by the time I finish, btw.

Mosaic is great by itself (hence the name, it's just all over the place). But i completely agree on the 2nd addition of hops to get the full roundednes of it.

I've used 4 or 5 hops in an IPA once that had mosaic, CTZ, Citra, Motueka and centennial that was fantastic... but never done just mosaic and one other hop, but i could see maybe centennial being very interesting. Citra being fantastic (i'd keep it more backgroundish and let mosaic come through more), Summer could be interesting as well... Galaxy? i'd say grab something super fruity ad have some fun!

3. Rivenin, your recipe looks like one I'd like to try with my remaining Mosaics. Thanks for sharing.

I'd say go for it!
...Well of course i'd say go for it... haha, but if you have mosaics, it's going to be a fairly cheap recipe to make as well

 

[dkennedy]

Just finished a bomber of Mosaic pale ale. I use rye instead of wheat, so obviously this is a different beer, but this thread caused me to consider:

1. Could I brew just about anything with this hop and still love it? Say, leftover meatloaf? (Mash meatloaf for at least 120 min.)
2. Does anyone get the sense upon the first drink that this hop needs to be paired with another hop to complete the ecstasy? If so, what is the second hop? I always change my mind about this by the time I finish, btw.
3. Rivenin, your recipe looks like one I'd like to try with my remaining Mosaics. Thanks for sharing.

My house IPA uses Chinook/Mosaic/Amarillo in boil and Amarillo/Mosaic/Motueka as DH adds, super happy with that recipe. Might have to try the meatloaf add.

 

[Rivenin]

1. Could I brew just about anything with this hop and still love it? Say, leftover meatloaf? (Mash meatloaf for at least 120 min.)

Pretty funny - I've had a bunch of IPAs somewhat recently, tis the season in the PNW... hints of sun mean more of them around here.
all of them have been pretty "meh, not bad"
then i bought "mosaic IPA" from Cascade lakes brewing company.... either it was the hop that made it awesome, or the beer itself. But maybe it's a crutch hop for sure. But it was indeed lovely

 

[Shenanigans]

So my plan was to brew this on Friday night.
I made an online order last week which included 1/2 LB of Mosaic. I have everything else here.
To cut a long story short there is a delay with the order and I'm not sure if I will get it on time

I really want to have a wheat beer ready for the start of next month but I only have 1 oz of Mosaic so I need a backup plan.

I guess subbing out the 60 min addition with Columbus should be OK.
However I need to decide if I should use the oz of Mosaic for 15, 0 or dry hopping?

I've narrowed my other hops down to Amarillo and Falconer's Flight.

So I guess:

60 min 0.25 oz Columbus
15 min - 1oz Amarillo
0 min - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic
Dry hop - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic

FF can be used instead of Amarillo but I think Amarillo would be better.

Sounds OK any comments?

 

[Singletrack]

60 min 0.25 oz Columbus
15 min - 1oz Amarillo
0 min - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic
Dry hop - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic

FF can be used instead of Amarillo but I think Amarillo would be better.

Sounds OK any comments?

Wouldn't you receive your Mosaics by the time you are ready to dry hop? If so, use the 1 oz on brew day.

FWIW, my Mosaic Pale Ale used Columbus for the 60 min addition. Turned out great. This "Pale Ale" used 8 oz of Mosaics for a 7.5 gal batch. I suppose many would call it an IPA. I used 3 oz to dry hop.

Not sure if this recipe has enough Mosaic hopiliciousness for me. Depends what you like, but I would definitely increase the Mosaic dry hop if you receive them in time. Good luck!

 

[Rivenin]

60 min 0.25 oz Columbus
15 min - 1oz Amarillo
0 min - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic
Dry hop - 0.5 oz Amarillo and Mosaic

FF can be used instead of Amarillo but I think Amarillo would be better.

Sounds OK any comments?

if that were me, i'd go with the following

60 - .25oz columbus
15 - 1oz amarillo
0 - 1oz mosaic
Dryhop when you get them (shouldn't take longer then 2-3 weeks, at least i'd hope! lol)

just make sure to keep the IBUs in check! it might be nicer with a mix of hops as well.

it'll be close enough for government work!

 

[Rivenin]

Not sure if this recipe has enough Mosaic hopiliciousness for me. Depends what you like, but I would definitely increase the Mosaic dry hop if you receive them in time. Good luck!

i wouldn't fight more mosaic in any recipe! But with it being a wheat, super hopped wouldn't be "to style"... but as homebrewers, we don't have guidelines haha, so do what you will!

 

[Shenanigans]

Hey u guys are of course right. I will have the delivery in time to dry hop ...doh!
I'll brew using the exact schedule suggested by rivenin. Might have to reduce the 60 or 15 min additions to keep it around 30 IBUs. More would be fine by me but I want it as a crowd pleasing BBQ beer :cross:

 

[christyle]

In was hoping to make this today but the LHBS was out of Mosaic... So I decided to go for it and try making my own hop schedule with what they had. This is what I came up with:

60m - 0.5 oz Nelson
30m - 1 oz Amarillo
15m - 0.5 oz Nelson
0m - 1 oz Zythos

Planning to dry hop 2 halves of this with 1oz Nelson in one and Zythos in the other.

Was hoping to try the original but oh well. Made do with some interesting and fruity hops to try and match the original some.