MoreBeer Pliny vs. Northern Brew Plinian

[JJ900]

I don't think you need to use a bag, and I think that you'll get more out of the hop pellets if you don't. But you need some way of keeping the hops out of your bottling bucket...the first time I made this kit it really clogged up my bottling wand, so I am now putting a paint strainer bag over my auto-siphon (after reading all the helpful suggestions here) and it works great.

 

[jspain3]

I used a paint bag for the hop additions and it definitely helps removing a big chunk of hop debris. I also double bagged my siphon wand. My bottle-conditioned beer was crystal clear, but after chilling them in the fridge there is a lot of chill haze. Next go round I'll do a better job of filtering the hot/cold break rather than dumping it all to the primary and trying to rack off it. I'm hoping if I leave the bottles in the fridge long enough the haze will precipitate out.

 

[jageraholic]

I made the northern brewer kit and its been in the keg for 9 days now. just got fully carbed. Smells and tastes great. I changed up the recipe a bit since I do a full boil. I entered NBs recipe into beer smith with top of water then entered mine in boiling 7 gallons and matched the IBUs for each hop addition. Saved a hop shot and cut down on the columbus 45 minute addition. Its still really bitter and mouth drying. A bit of a palate killer in a great way. Columbus strong but also some great fruit and pine flavors from the other hops.

 

[Malt]

Don't really need a kit, here's the all-grain and extract recipe from Vinnie:

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf

 

[TrickyDick]

So what's the difference between the two kits?
When I have brewed clones of this I've just bought the hop pack from farmhouse, or assembled myself the required hops and brewed the recipe Vinnie freely gives out and has been published several times in BYO and zymurgy.
I vaguely recall simcoe Amarillo and CTZ ?cascade maybe too though don't think so.

TD

 

[normonster]

I also brewed the MB kit and loved it. It was great after a few weeks but by the time I finished the second keg a month later it was fantastic! Definitely a brew over.

 

[divrguy]

I also brewed the MB kit and loved it. It was great after a few weeks but by the time I finished the second keg a month later it was fantastic! Definitely a brew over.

Oddly enough... That's my take also. I had one of these 2 days ago and I made my batch quite a while ago. I almost think it's better now but then again I'm almost out...lol

 

[Lurkerga]

I recently brewed both NB's Plinian and MB's Pliny a day apart and both were bottle conditioned. After 2 week I sampled both and despite the numerous similarities in flavor, I think the Plinian had a cleaner finish as the Pliny had more of a peppery aftertaste. After a month of bottle conditioning, the Pliny has dramatically smoothed out where as the Plinian hasn't changed much. Not sure I'll have enough left of either to compare at 6 weeks, but my personal thought is that the Plinian is a better brew for people like me that don't want to wait more than a couple weeks to bottle condition but the Pliny is equally good, if not better, with age.

 

[Grizz]

Thanks, I have a MB Pliny batch dry hopping at the moment. It's around 8.9% but super smooth, a lot better than some of the $8 bottles I buy.

 

[Yesfan]

So, is it Pliny (sounds like 'piney') or Pliny (sounds like 'plenty' without the t) and is it the same for the word Plinian?

 

[afro_lou]

Puh+line+ee

 

[jbaysurfer]

Puh+line+ee

Actually, Pliny the Elder was pronounced the other way (or so I've been told), even though I also spend plenty of time around the pub and the staff (assuming you do too given your location) and we both know they pronounce it the way you just said.

Since "Plinian Legacy" was not named by anyone at Russian river, I suppose one could pronounce it anyway they choose.

 

[Pour_Man]

I did the NB one last year. Turned out well enough. I thought it was bitter, but my hop head friends loved it. I did an all grain clone recipe i got on HBT this year and it's fantastic! I don't think I'll ever get it as good as the real thing, but it's close enough for camping!

 

[jspain3]

So, is it Pliny (sounds like 'piney') or Pliny (sounds like 'plenty' without the t) and is it the same for the word Plinian?

Technically, it should be pronounced with a short i sound like 'plenty', but I've found that most people say it like 'piney' and it's easier to just go with the masses than sound pretentious.

I have no idea how Russian River pronounces it, though.

 

[afro_lou]

Actually, Pliny the Elder was pronounced the other way (or so I've been told), even though I also spend plenty of time around the pub and the staff (assuming you do too given your location) and we both know they pronounce it the way you just said.



Since "Plinian Legacy" was not named by anyone at Russian river, I suppose one could pronounce it anyway they choose.

Interesting! I always just assumed that the folks at RR were pronouncing it correctly!
But you're right, they would probably give you a very strange look if you ordered a "plinny," even if it IS correct...

 

[Grizz]

So, is it Pliny (sounds like 'piney') or Pliny (sounds like 'plenty' without the t) and is it the same for the word Plinian?

It's Plin-Knee like Skinny

 

[Yesfan]

Thanks.

My cousin and me have always called it Pliny (like piney). A friend of his, who also brews and has been brewing about two years longer, is always correcting us whenever that beer comes up in discussion.

 

[grassfeeder]

It's Plin-Knee like Skinny

ding ding ding

 

[afro_lou]

All of this "correctness" aside, I've never heard ANYONE call the BEER "plin-knee."
In the future, I'll be sure to pronounce his name correctly and continue to pronounce the beer incorrectly. [emoji6]

Great diversion, by the way! To the OP's original question, I've never tried either kit. I'd recommend using RR's actual recipe.
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf

Edit: oof. Just realized this is already like a double resurrection on this thread and I have nothing new to add. Oh well.

 

[grassfeeder]

go to the brewery and you'll hear "plin-knee" all day long.

 

[afro_lou]

Huh, we must be going to a different "the brewery" then. It's always been "pl-eye-nee" there... Or "puh-line-ee" as I wrote earlier.

 

[divrguy]

go to the brewery and you'll hear "plin-knee" all day long.

No one at the brewery ever says Plin-knee..... Ever!