More to it than I thought.

[Onkel_Udo]

Wtf is a redneck pale ale?, ....and where can I get some?

I did not trademark the term but it is simple...It is a pale ale without a permanent recipe...just some parameters:

28-30 IBU's
12 SRM'ish
OG about 1.050

I make it with whatever is on hand and sounds like it will taste good. When I was in Oklahoma it was usually 50/50 Munich and two row plus a dash of C90 then bittering with whatever and Saaz for flavor and aroma (I used to order 5#'s a year when they were stupid cheap). Yeast was whatever I had as a cake from the last beer I made...often Nottingham.

Nowadays it has evolved into something more standardized now that ingredients are more readily available and since I discovered rye!

 

[kombat]

I did a double all grain brew day once. But, I had been brewing for many years at that point. UGH! It was a long day!

I've done them from time to time. If you prepare right, you can work it out such that it only adds a couple of hours to a regular brew day. Mill all the grains the night before and have the hops already weighed out. You don't have to really "clean" the mash tun and boil kettle between batches - just a good rinse is adequate. Also, it really helps to have a second burner and propane tank (assuming you brew with gas), since you can be heating the strike water for batch #2 at the same time you're heating the first runnings from batch #1. Then you mash #2 while boiling #1. By the time you're finished with batch #1, you're already done the mash for batch #2.

 

[Onkel_Udo]

I've done them from time to time. If you prepare right, you can work it out such that it only adds a couple of hours to a regular brew day. Mill all the grains the night before and have the hops already weighed out. You don't have to really "clean" the mash tun and boil kettle between batches - just a good rinse is adequate. Also, it really helps to have a second burner and propane tank (assuming you brew with gas), since you can be heating the strike water for batch #2 at the same time you're heating the first runnings from batch #1. Then you mash #2 while boiling #1. By the time you're finished with batch #1, you're already done the mash for batch #2.

When I was young and foolish with a three-tier rig I would do tripple 11 gallon brew days as soon as weather turned cool enough to not need temp control in Oklahoma. Each additional session added about 75 minutes.

By the end of the day I was exhausted but as mentioned, you don't really have to clean anything in between...you just muck it out and give it a rinse so it is much more efficient time wise. I would normally light off the the HLT (prefilled the night before) while brewing morning coffee and be to strike temp by the time the grains were ground (hand crank mill). Dough in then top off the HLT to heat for sparge and the next batch of strike-temp water. Whilst fly sparging, the boil kettle would be at 3/4% burner output so that boil would commence by the time you had mucked out the mash tun and add cold water to the remaining sparge water to get down to strike temp...and so on and so forth.

75 minutes per brew was because of a one hour mash and 15 minutes cleaning between each dough in.

 

[Altrez]

Hello,

I have been logging the temperature on my new fermentation chamber for about 5 days to see how well it works. I have the Temp controller set at 65 degrees with a 2 degree differential. I am using a ICT-308 as the controller.

It looks like everything is working well and that puts me one step closer to brew day!

-Altrez

 

[MaryB]

Nice! I don't log my temps but I use a remote fridge/freezer thermometer that monitors temps for me. I see about the same temp changes. 63 lowest 66 highest, 5 minute compressor lockout(keeps the compressor from trying to stop/start to fast and burn up the motor) just in case. Readout sits on my desk, I have probes in both freezers, my freezer to fridge conversion(runs off solar so need max efficiency), and the fermenting fridge! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EYIEDOI/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[Altrez]

Nice! I don't log my temps but I use a remote fridge/freezer thermometer that monitors temps for me. I see about the same temp changes. 63 lowest 66 highest, 5 minute compressor lockout(keeps the compressor from trying to stop/start to fast and burn up the motor) just in case. Readout sits on my desk, I have probes in both freezers, my freezer to fridge conversion(runs off solar so need max efficiency), and the fermenting fridge! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EYIEDOI/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

Hello,

Thank you for posting that link! I might look into a set for myself!



-Altrez

 

[Altrez]

Taking the advice of a few people I decided to get an electric stove for my brew day. It boils water fast!

-Altrez

 

[McKnuckle]

How about making some beer now?!

 

[Altrez]

How about making some beer now?!

I am working on it. The goal is Sunday!



-Altrez

 

[MaryB]

My brew chore tomorrow(besides bottles 2 one gallon batches) is start work on my brew stand...

 

[Altrez]

My brew chore tomorrow(besides bottles 2 one gallon batches) is start work on my brew stand...

Mine is to clean the brew table and put up all non brew related equipment.

-Altrez

 

[PADave]

Mine is to clean the brew table and put up all non brew related equipment.

-Altrez

My task tomorrow is to brew. Make some beer man. All this fancy equipment, cleaning everything, prep work, lets see some product. lol My brew table is the outside picnic table and the patio floor. Don't worry about the table, the beer isn't supposed to touch it.

 

[Altrez]

My task tomorrow is to brew. Make some beer man. All this fancy equipment, cleaning everything, prep work, lets see some product. lol My brew table is the outside picnic table and the patio floor. Don't worry about the table, the beer isn't supposed to touch it.

I am still getting supplies! I will start as soon as I have everything clean and organised.



-Altrez

 

[Altrez]

More stuff in today!

-Altrez

 

[Murphys_Law]

We are 17 pages in and you've spent...?! And haven't so much as boiled water? oh man, once you actually make beer you'll go nuts with buying stuff!

 

[Jwin]

With all this stuff, you're gonna be able to make some sweet brew, once you learn how to. At least your post count is up in case it doesn't work out and you need to post in classifieds.
I've spent far less, making 11g at a time and still learning. Seriously hope all goes well and you love the hobby.

 

[PADave]

We are 17 pages in and you've spent...?! And haven't so much as boiled water? oh man, once you actually make beer you'll go nuts with buying stuff!

Now his expectations are going to be so high with all this fancy unnecessary equipment for a beginning brewer, I see this going one of three ways. Either the beer is going to turn out good. Or is not going to be as good as he expects it to be so it must be the equipment, so need to buy something new/better and try again. Or just gives up on the whole thing.

 

[Altrez]

Now his expectations are going to be so high with all this fancy unnecessary equipment for a beginning brewer, I see this going one of three ways. Either the beer is going to turn out good. Or is not going to be as good as he expects it to be so it must be the equipment, so need to buy something new/better and try again. Or just gives up on the whole thing.

My beer is going to be outstanding!

:rockin:

-Altrez

 

[kombat]

When's your first brew day planned for, Altrez?

 

[Altrez]

When's your first brew day planned for, Altrez?

Hi kombat,

I am going to start the Mr. Beer kits on Sunday hopefully if not it will be next week. The 1 gallon kits will be a week later. My idea is to have a batch ready to keg/bottle each week.



-Altrez

 

[Altrez]

Bottle collecting is hard work

-Altrez

 

[kombat]

I like your taste in beers, but I believe all of those labels are going to be a real pain to remove, except the Founders ones! I think the Rogue ones are even actually painted right onto the glass, aren't they?

This falls under the heading of "You know you're a homebrewer when ..." you're at the liquor store, and the type of label on the bottle influences which beer you're going to buy.

 

[Altrez]

Very soon I will have everything ready. Just need 1 more Fridge and temp controller and I am all set!

-Altrez

 

[Altrez]

I like your taste in beers, but I believe all of those labels are going to be a real pain to remove, except the Founders ones! I think the Rogue ones are even actually painted right onto the glass, aren't they?

This falls under the heading of "You know you're a homebrewer when ..." you're at the liquor store, and the type of label on the bottle influences which beer you're going to buy.

I think I am going to just put labels over them for now if I cant get the current ones off. I looked today for beer bottles at the local store that would have easy to remove labels and ended up spending $30 to "Test" different bottles



-Altrez

 

[PADave]

I think I am going to just put labels over them for now if I cant get the current ones off. I looked today for beer bottles at the local store that would have easy to remove labels and ended up spending $30 to "Test" different bottles



-Altrez

Soak them in PBW for a few days or a week. Off the top of my head these are some bottles I prefer for easy label removal: Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams, Dog Fish Head, New Belgium, Great Lakes. Soak for a few days in PBW and the labels have usually fallen off on their own.

 

[Altrez]

Soak them in PBW for a few days or a week. Off the top of my head these are some bottles I prefer for easy label removal: Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams, Dog Fish Head, New Belgium, Great Lakes. Soak for a few days in PBW and the labels have usually fallen off on their own.

Thank you for the help! I will give that a try and see how well it works.



-Altrez

 

[Horseshoot]

There are some bottles out there with tricky labels. Most, in my experience, fall right off if you put them in really hot water and scent free oxyclean. Some fall off within minutes. If I soak them for longer than an hour, and they don't start falling off, I toss them in the recycle bin.

 

[MaryB]

Only downside to New Belgium is the necks crack easily when capping... I have broken 2 out of the last 160...

 

[Jwin]

Yeah
I don't like those and don't save them anymore
The crowns are very low to

Best to find a crowd killing some Sam Adams one weekend

 

[kombat]

these are some bottles I prefer for easy label removal: Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams, Dog Fish Head, New Belgium, Great Lakes.

Agreed, however one must also consider whether or not they intend on submitting any of their beers for competition. In competitions, the bottles must not only be devoid of any labels, but of any distinctive markings whatsoever, including elements molded into the glass of the bottles themselves. Dogfish Head bottles have a little fish molded into the glass. Sam Adams bottles have a stylized signature molded into the glass.

I believe Sierra Nevada bottles are plain, but I don't know about the others. If you're not going to be submitting to competitions, it's moot, but if you think you might want to, it's something to keep in mind. I only ever keep totally plain beer bottles - anything else gets recycled.