Moonshrimp Brewing-A gluten free microbrewery

[derek704]

I am also curious

 

[InfiniteThought]

MY APOLOGIES FOR THE HUGE DELAY!
In all honesty in the chaos that is my life now I completely forgot about this thread. (So Sorry!:smack

So: Updates since then!
Bad news first, it turns out that the landlady didn't actually own the building anymore. Got to the brewery one morning and there was a notice on the door saying that new owners had bought the building at foreclosure auction and had taken control. Everything got put on hold while I had to straighten a new lease out with them (month and a half) but that got worked out it the end. Scary as hell, they didn't have to honor my standing lease because of when it was signed so I could have been out of the space.

Octopus also never got fixed.

Good news! Approval from Feds and from the state to brew beer! City of Portland sign off as well.

And then back to bad news again the city doesn't want to give me a building permit to install new water and sewer lines for a whole bunch of reasons, only a few of which I can influence. Great, just great. I also have to pay $500 to "appeal" my front door because it is against code, but would also be against code to fix it. so I have to give them money to ...do nothing...

That is where it is at right now, pictures to follow since I remember I have this thread now.

 

[Rivenin]

Yikes man! that's terrifying considering how long this has been going on for...
Best of luck! If you ever need help with anything, i'm over in SE now instead of lake o... but still willing to come out and help out if need be!

 

[InfiniteThought]

Thank you very much. I am working on some of the details with the city today and trying to foist as much of this code compliance crap off on the landlord as possible. Did you know Portland charges $570 to come look at a valve? Yeah...thats per valve too, you install 2 back flow preventers and the city charges over a thousand to look at them and admit that they exist. These are required of course....

 

[InfiniteThought]

Woot! Landlord has agreed that things that are his problem are actually his problem. Sounds sad but this is actually progress.

 

[Rivenin]

Woot! contgrats on that man! I'm guessing this means less money out of your pocket and more money into the brewery? Hopefully soon you get to just kick back and relax and enjoy brewing...
How long would you say you are away from opening?

 

[InfiniteThought]

The responsibility aspect will save some money but it is more about saving time at this point. I don't really have an estimate on how soon I will be open as a lot of that is in the hands of the red tape at the moment. Should have the building permit pretty soon. Getting my a/c unit->glycol chiller rewired tomorrow, I feel like I could probably do the wiring myself but as there is a reasonable chance of electrocution I have put it off until a real expert could come help and it is getting done tomorrow!
It is a a 12kBTU in window unit that I am going to connect with independent pumps and ranco controllers to submersible pumps in the cooler. I have 100' of copper pipe wrapped around each 2bbl FV and think (hope) that will work fine.

 

[InfiniteThought]

My a/c unit is magic. According to the circuit diagram it never has power coming in, the power just runs continuously in a circle. Makes it a little hard to figure out how to rewire it.

 

[Rivenin]

haha wait what?! do you have a diagram?

 

[InfiniteThought]

Okay, so second try on posting this. The diagram is a bit dark (cause it was night out) and the flash resulted in a whited out square. There is no break in the diagram for actually plugging the thing in. The wire runs from the capacitor to the compressor, to the fan, to the capacitor... yeah.
I killed the only perpetual potion machine. Sorry guys.

 

[Osedax]

Uhhh... a circuit is a circle of sorts. Do you have a better photo? It's too blurry to read. If you have a model number you can look up the diagram online. Good luck!

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[Rivenin]

Okay, so second try on posting this. The diagram is a bit dark (cause it was night out) and the flash resulted in a whited out square. There is no break in the diagram for actually plugging the thing in. The wire runs from the capacitor to the compressor, to the fan, to the capacitor... yeah.
I killed the only perpetual potion machine. Sorry guys.

holy crap, i think i found the same one via google...

i think my google-fu is strong today!

i'm pretty sure the power cord is the one above the area labeled "4", that sideways S dude is for AC voltage and is the only one besides the motor to have a ground labeled and it also has black and white coming off of it... hopefully that helps!

 

[InfiniteThought]

That looks right to me, the problem is that reality doesn't match the diagram, even taking the AC spot that you found to be where the power goes in. The circuit board isn't on the diagram and things come out of it and connect differently then shown.

Your google-fu is strong indeed.

Fortunately I know what the wires are supposed to be doing so I should be able to rearrange them until they match this. The diagram even came with a potential relay (for free!).

 

[InfiniteThought]

So, I have news from the city. I had to file an appeal for the front door because their is a step up to the door without a landing and this cannot be fixed because the city Right Of Way (ROW) is too close to build the landing. Given that their is no possible way to fix this without demolishing the entire building I figured they would grant it.

Yeah...So the decision is that I can use the door myself but that the public cannot, meaning that my brewery can only be used for manufacturing and not for direct sale to the public. That was their statement at least but my OLCC investigator (Kat Hand, awesome person) and I are working on extending my OLCC permit to apply to a portion of the ROW so that I can sell beer through the door way and perhaps also the window to people on the sidewalk.

Strange but apparently workable solution, like a walk-through sales window. I think this will be the first premises licensed this way, assuming it actually works.

 

[sumbrewindude]

i'm pretty sure the power cord is the one above the area labeled "4", that sideways S dude is for AC voltage and is the only one besides the motor to have a ground labeled and it also has black and white coming off of it... hopefully that helps!

Edited, because after looking at it again, I'm wrong - that is AC - either 120(White/black) or 240 (Blue/Brown) . 4 is a compressor (COMP), 3 is the phase shift cap.

I'm surprised there isn't a block or breaker for the incoming to connect up to - most incoming mains will be either fused or on a contactor that must be closed.

 

[Rivenin]

So, I have news from the city. I had to file an appeal for the front door because their is a step up to the door without a landing and this cannot be fixed because the city Right Of Way (ROW) is too close to build the landing. Given that their is no possible way to fix this without demolishing the entire building I figured they would grant it.

Yeah...So the decision is that I can use the door myself but that the public cannot, meaning that my brewery can only be used for manufacturing and not for direct sale to the public. That was their statement at least but my OLCC investigator (Kat Hand, awesome person) and I are working on extending my OLCC permit to apply to a portion of the ROW so that I can sell beer through the door way and perhaps also the window to people on the sidewalk.

Strange but apparently workable solution, like a walk-through sales window. I think this will be the first premises licensed this way, assuming it actually works.

That'll be kinda rad! i wonder if you can get a patio type deal going as well for the summer?

it'll be like a gluten free beer-thru!

 

[InfiniteThought]

Where is that? I think I need to go there...

 

[derek704]

I know of one like this in Stillwater, OK. Some of my friends go there regularly.


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[Rivenin]

haha, we used to have them around when i lived in Cincinnatti on the outskirts, we also had one when i lived over in California... it was the coolest thing when i was little. you'd ask for a gallon of milk, they'd bring it to your window.

 

[Corey_SS]

This is probably a dumb question so I hope you'll forgive me, but couldn't they just let you level the floor of the doorway so that you could put a step in? Like, in the doorway and not on the sidewalk?

 

[Osedax]

Yes, that was very dumb.

I thought of the same thing. I assume it is just cost prohibitive. Either way, I like the beer window. The gluten free inebriation portal.

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[InfiniteThought]

Leveling the doorway to match street level would involve demolishing/rebuilding a large portion of the front of the building. The main front beam is in the way so that idea was a non starter. I got a call from the OLCC just the other day, they wanted to clarify exactly what I was doing. The call went something like "You want to do WHAT? WHAY?....Oh, you're that guy."

 

[Rivenin]

Any updates on this? been close to a year with no info