Mistake? has to be

[RJS]

So, Brew prep and brew day did not go as planned.
No starter for 2308 Munich.
Pitched low count.
Next day, nothing.
Impatient.
Pitched Nottingham.
Huge, violent yeast battle inside.
2308 Lager vs. Notty ale...

What have i done?

 

[day_trippr]

Probably provoked Yet Another Text Wall to appear...

Cheers

 

[Grumpybumpy]

Who will win?

 

[starrfish]

betting on notty

 

[starrfish]

post flavor profile when done!

 

[FatherJack]

It should be interesting!

+1 on the flavor profile, I'm curious

 

[RJS]

Stay tuned.

 

[RJS]

Brew is carbing right now. Tasted good 'n malty. This was Revvy's vienna.

I wouldn't recommend the strain mixing, i dont think it will be a great beer because of it, just good. Im not even sure the 2308 did anything except cause trouble.

 

[kh54s10]

What fermentation profile did you use. Lager temps or ale temps? Sounds like you have some kind of lagerale...

For what it's worth at this point, I would have been very surprised it you had any action on the severely underpitched lager yeast in less than 2 or 3 days.

Keep us informed on how this turns out.

 

[onthekeg]

I would bet the lager yeast was killed immediately, or so overmatched that they gave up and notty did all the work. What temp was the fermentation at? That will give a better idea, but without a starter, large pitch of active yeast, and temp control, the game is all Notty. IMHO

 

[KraphtBier]

I wonder if you went with lager temps if the Notty would simply drop out. Do you plan on lagering this batch? Please keep us informed. I don't know if I've ever encountered a thread where someone pitched a lager and ale yeast in the same brew. I'm super curious to see how this comes out!

 

[MrManifesto]

while you can pitch two yeasts and get characteristics of both, notty probably won that battle. sounds like your other yeast wasn't doing much.

personally i'm looking forward to an dry english ale/saison mix. fermented in the upper 60's/low 70's hoping to get some fruit out of the english to mix with the pepper of the saison.

 

[jbuck984]

in the the yeasty battle, I'd place my bets on the lager. I'd drop the temp to 55* then to mid 40*s once they took off! i haven't used notty but I'm pretty sure that would level the playing field.

 

[RJS]

My poor research for wyeast's 2308 is evident. I wasnt even planning to actually lager it. Primary was sert for 65F. 2308 says only goes to 56f i think.

 

[RJS]

i think i was in California Lager mode and didnt even question it

 

[RJS]

Note: this is also what happens when you brew all-grain every week, keeping inventory of hundreds of pounds of grain, tens of pounds of hops and tons of yeast!

 

[RJS]

But dont forget, its really hard to ruin a batch.

 

[Butter]

I'd call it an aleger.

 

[JacobS]

and if its worth dancing too then its an aleger rhythm

 

[RJS]

Whoa, easy there

 

[biestie]

If you have any issues it'll be from the massive orgy the initial pitch of yeast had. Other than that, I doubt it'll be too bad.

 

[RJS]

Oh, I've already tasted it. Flat and room temp, tasted very good.

 

[bwomp313]

I dunno. If it was fermented that warm, the lager yeast might've caught up. Should be interesting. Would be cool to do a side by side type of deal where you did like 3 1 gallon jugs. notty in 1, lager in another and then both in the 3rd and pitched and fermented them all at the same temps.

 

[bwomp313]

of course the pitching rates would have to be very closely approximated

 

[C-Rider]

Note: this is also what happens when you brew all-grain every week, keeping inventory of hundreds of pounds of grain, tens of pounds of hops and tons of yeast!

I brew small BIAB batches of about 1.75 g. If friends are stopping buy then I'm also brewing once a week. Yup, gotta remember to keep the inventory up to date.

 

[RJS]

Update

Just tapped the keg last night. Turned out really good. Copper colored and moderately carbonated, 17 psi for 7 days. Malty and clean, slight toasty, grainy character.

Nottingham is the winner, having defeated Munich 2308 from the beginning with a serious blow to the cell walls. What a match, until next time...