Man, I love Apfelwein

[BigKahuna]

Its not done already, is it? I've seen many posts here with people waiting 12 weeks to bottle. 4 weeks seems to be the minimum. I have no problem waiting a few more weeks, its just strange that its not doing anything right now.

First off....Welcome!

Secondly....NO IT ISN'T DONE till it's clear....I mean really read a news paper through 5 gallons clear! 4 weeks BARE minimum. And try not to get too excited about it until you are 6 or 8 weeks out, or you'll end up drinking it all, then you won't have any aging. Also...>See page 1 of this thread. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR NEXT BATCH ON THE ROAD!

 

[kevlar70]

Original Recipe has been fermenting for a week and 3 days. Fermentation has slowed considerably (a bubble every 5 sec or so). The 'must' is still cloudy. So now the long wait until fallout begins... Of course, now it's easier to just relax and not sneak a peek every day when there's "nothing to see here!"

 

[jrez]

I can wait, I just have to get the next batch going. I think this weekend there will be another 5 gallons going into yet another carboy.

My recipe is pretty standard. 5 gallons stop&shop apple juice, from concentrate. 2 pounds dark brown sugar. Montrachet yeast. I'm hoping to get a little bit of molasses flavor from the dark brown sugar, we will see. I wonder what mole-asses taste like anyway :cross:

 

[Toppers]

2.5 gal created 6/24/08.
Tasted a small sample at 4 weeks. I didn't give it the 3 glass rule, so I wasn't impressed.

This is wine after all, don't expect a drinkable product that soon. Wine and mead take what, 6 months+ to really come to flavor? But I'd be lying if I said I didn't drink 10 gallons of green Apfelwein in the last 2 months

But seriously, now that I get to try it at different stages of aging, I never go back. It tastes like a cheap ass CVS pharmacy wine early on. Later though, bring me some aspirin baby, it's gonna be a night.

 

[Baron ken]

This is wine after all, don't expect a drinkable product that soon. Wine and mead take what, 6 months+ to really come to flavor? But I'd be lying if I said I didn't drink 10 gallons of green Apfelwein in the last 2 months

That could be my problem right there... I don't particularly like wine.
I plan to try it with some 7-up and also try maybe backsweetening it. If I can come up with something I like, I'll make some more then. I'm in no hurry, I have lots of beer on tap.

 

[Rezilynt]

Holy crap! I finally looked in on my latest batch (mixed Sat). It looks like it is at a full rolling boil. My airlock is full and sounds like a machine gun- thank God for no krausen
All that I've had in the past were a few bubbles on top. Temp is around 68. The only thing I did different was substituted 1 gal of apple juice with 1 gal of applejuice with strawberry (100% juice) for a taste experiment.

 

[Rezilynt]

I plan to try it with some 7-up and also try maybe backsweetening it. If I can come up with something I like, I'll make some more then. I'm in no hurry, I have lots of beer on tap.

Just a suggestion -after about 4 weeks, siphon out about 12 ounces into a jar you can put a lid on. Let it sit in the fridge for a day then taste it. Do this once every week or so.
What you will find is that this has different stages with very different tastes. You are bound to find a stage you like.

 

[Baron ken]

Well, I decided to go ahead and try another sample last night (it's 6 weeks old). It poured from the keg beautifully and was extremely clear. It wasn't bad. I decided to try some 7-up with it and didn't think about checking this thread for the ratio, so I went 1:1. It was very good, but too sweet and too much 7-up flavor, so I'll make adjustments to the ratio on subsequent samples.

Next time I'll have to take gravity readings to try to determine the ABV.

 

[tkktommyboy]

OK i just got done reading through all 3638 posts and somewhere along the way (wish I would have started from the beginning) I started collecting some CLASSIC quotes.
I thought it would be amusing and break the monotony of... i followed the recepie exactly except.....
so any how here they are.(sorry if i didnt give everyone there credit but you know who you are)

Yeah, but you can die from all sorts of activities like driving to work, dropping a carboy, plane crashes, asteroids, etc.
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Cheers,
EdWort

It will sneak up on you so fast, you'll wake up and wonder where your pants are.
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Cheers,
EdWort

I don't recommend adding more than 3 pounds of dextrose to a 5 gallon batch. Any more will make it drier than a popcorn fart.
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Cheers,
EdWort

Whats the 3 glass rule ?
Ya gotta drink 3 glasses before passing judgment.
Depending on the size of the glass, some folks just pass out before passing judgement.
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Cheers,
EdWort

Yep, you can get hammered before quaffing too much to instigate irritable bowel syndrome.
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Cheers,
EdWort

It's crisp, clean, & refeshing, all making you want more. Then a little buzz will start. Hey, this is pretty good!! Before you know it pint glasses are going down with such ease right before you pass out.

Originally Posted by EdWort
Drink a quart of water and take 3 aspirin before going to sleep tol help reduce the effects of excessive Apfelwein consumption as well as the urge to call EdWort a M'F**kR the next morning![/b]

Yes, grasshopper, the goal does seen so outlandish that it can make one wet himself profusely, BUT it can be achieved if you build up a 30 gallon stockpile and put some away just to see the difference. It is a worthy goal and the rewards are great!
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Cheers,
EdWort


I realized later that corn sugar dissolves easier than listerine strips. wtf???


Originally Posted by BlindLemonLars
Guys in prison use it all the time, and they seem happy with the results.
They also do other things that I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be happy with.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
if this is the "Elephant Fart" smell you all talk about, I'VE BEEN HORRIBLY MISINFORMED ABOUT ELEPHANTS.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
I think I've crossed that line...between Hobby and mental illness!

After reading recent posts I think this stuff might cure cancer, establish world peace and grow hair!

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
Even the heartiest biggest rough and tumble lumberjack Oil Rigger will have issues if he doesn't mind his apfelwein

My sister passed out, my wife is still puking this afternoon and my head felt like it got smashed between 2 bricks. This stuff is amazing but holy sheet it sneaks up on you faster then a phantom fart.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
Just wait till you get the "Maybe You'd like to sleep with your Damn Apfelwein...That's all You ever talk about" Speech.
I got that one Sunday Silly woman.

I know they are but it was just for fun


Tom

 

[Toppers]

Apfelwein is OPERATION MINDCRIME...bang it out:rockin:

 

[BigKahuna]

OK i just got done reading through all 3638 posts and somewhere along the way (wish I would have started from the beginning) I started collecting some CLASSIC quotes.
I thought it would be amusing and break the monotony of... i followed the recepie exactly except.....
so any how here they are.(sorry if i didnt give everyone there credit but you know who you are)

Yeah, but you can die from all sorts of activities like driving to work, dropping a carboy, plane crashes, asteroids, etc.
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort

It will sneak up on you so fast, you'll wake up and wonder where your pants are.
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort

I don't recommend adding more than 3 pounds of dextrose to a 5 gallon batch. Any more will make it drier than a popcorn fart.
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort

Whats the 3 glass rule ?
Ya gotta drink 3 glasses before passing judgment.
Depending on the size of the glass, some folks just pass out before passing judgement.
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort

Yep, you can get hammered before quaffing too much to instigate irritable bowel syndrome.
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort

It's crisp, clean, & refeshing, all making you want more. Then a little buzz will start. Hey, this is pretty good!! Before you know it pint glasses are going down with such ease right before you pass out.

Originally Posted by EdWort
Drink a quart of water and take 3 aspirin before going to sleep tol help reduce the effects of excessive Apfelwein consumption as well as the urge to call EdWort a M'F**kR the next morning![/b]

Yes, grasshopper, the goal does seen so outlandish that it can make one wet himself profusely, BUT it can be achieved if you build up a 30 gallon stockpile and put some away just to see the difference. It is a worthy goal and the rewards are great!
__________________
Cheers,
EdWort


I realized later that corn sugar dissolves easier than listerine strips. wtf???


Originally Posted by BlindLemonLars
Guys in prison use it all the time, and they seem happy with the results.
They also do other things that I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be happy with.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
if this is the "Elephant Fart" smell you all talk about, I'VE BEEN HORRIBLY MISINFORMED ABOUT ELEPHANTS.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
I think I've crossed that line...between Hobby and mental illness!

After reading recent posts I think this stuff might cure cancer, establish world peace and grow hair!

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
Even the heartiest biggest rough and tumble lumberjack Oil Rigger will have issues if he doesn't mind his apfelwein

My sister passed out, my wife is still puking this afternoon and my head felt like it got smashed between 2 bricks. This stuff is amazing but holy sheet it sneaks up on you faster then a phantom fart.

Originally Posted by BigKahuna
Just wait till you get the "Maybe You'd like to sleep with your Damn Apfelwein...That's all You ever talk about" Speech.
I got that one Sunday Silly woman.

I know they are but it was just for fun


Tom

Someone...NOT IT...should clean this up a bit and take it to the Quotes thread..... https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=788375&posted=1#post788375

 

[Damonic]

Has anyone tried substituting brown sugar for the corn sugar? Just wondering if it might add some complexity to the taste. I know EdWort went for a specific example of Apfelwine but I'm curious what the brown would do.

 

[BigKahuna]

Has anyone tried substituting brown sugar for the corn sugar? Just wondering if it might add some complexity to the taste. I know EdWort went for a specific example of Apfelwine but I'm curious what the brown would do.

Ya...that comes up about every 2 or 3 weeks. I'ts ok, but it's not Apfelwein....Check out the cyder Forum....It's discussed nearly to death there. Just to give a strait answer....use 2# and 5 gallons....see what happens.

 

[tkktommyboy]

Someone...NOT IT...should clean this up a bit and take it to the Quotes thread..... https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=788375&posted=1#post788375

Done!!
All cleaned up and posted ...i didnt even realize that thread existed...then again i have not realized much of anything trying to digest the 3000+ post in this thread....lol

 

[Homercidal]

Rhino Farts?? I made 5 gallons, and gleefully anticipate the nasty smell permeating my bathroom. Hoping it's enough to make the SWMBO gag and yell at me. So far it's been slightly gross, but not bad at all.

When does this start? How long will it last?

 

[RiverSwillBeer]

after a month I needed the carboy so I transfered the Apfewein into a keg to age. I decided to taste it just to see what it was like after a month. The immediate flavor was extreme dryness / tartness, and then a finish of a hint of possibly vinegar. Is that what Im suppost to be tasting ??? Thanks

 

[tkktommyboy]

The immediate flavor was extreme dryness / tartness, and then a finish of a hint of possibly vinegar. Is that what Im suppost to be tasting ??? Thanks

I had the same taste only earlier in the process and someone told me it is the taste of yeasties still in suspention. i cant cofirm or deny this though just what i was told
Tom

 

[BigKahuna]

after a month I needed the carboy so I transfered the Apfewein into a keg to age. I decided to taste it just to see what it was like after a month. The immediate flavor was extreme dryness / tartness, and then a finish of a hint of possibly vinegar. Is that what Im suppost to be tasting ??? Thanks

IT's fine.


and will get better.

 

[EdWort]

Rhino Farts?? I made 5 gallons, and gleefully anticipate the nasty smell permeating my bathroom. Hoping it's enough to make the SWMBO gag and yell at me. So far it's been slightly gross, but not bad at all.

When does this start? How long will it last?

Within a few days. I have 18 gallons getting ready. Personally, I call it the aroma of fermentation. Good thing for me that SWMBO is addicted to the stuff. :cross:

 

[Saccharomyces]

Rhino Farts?? I made 5 gallons, and gleefully anticipate the nasty smell permeating my bathroom. Hoping it's enough to make the SWMBO gag and yell at me. So far it's been slightly gross, but not bad at all.

When does this start? How long will it last?

The smell, or the SWMBO gagging and yelling? The latter will go away after SWMBO consumes a few pints of the finished fine Apfelwein. The former... a few days into fermentation.

 

[Dan T]

I just returned from Germany where all I drank was Apfelwine or as some called it Feetz (or something like that) and you got the taste nailed. I have to say I due enjoy the hire octane of yours. Great job Edwort thanks for bringing us this awesome brew

 

[kevlar70]

My Original Recipe is fermenting along quietly in the balmy interior of our coastal Georgia home. A query to the masses: Have any of you brewed Apfelwein at high temps (range 77 to 81 degrees F?)? What was the result in time and taste?

 

[EdWort]

I just returned from Germany where all I drank was Apfelwine or as some called it Feetz (or something like that) and you got the taste nailed. I have to say I due enjoy the hire octane of yours. Great job Edwort thanks for bringing us this awesome brew

You're welcome.

Viez is what they call it in the Württemberg Moscht, Trierer Land, and Merzig areas. In the state of Hessen (where Frankfurt is) they call it Äppelwoi (pronounced Eppelvoy).

I enjoy the octane boost too. You can't tell the difference, except after 3 glasses.

 

[EdWort]

My Original Recipe is fermenting along quietly in the balmy interior of our coastal Georgia home. A query to the masses: Have any of you brewed Apfelwein at high temps (range 77 to 81 degrees F?)? What was the result in time and taste?

77 is the high end where I ferment mine. Most of the the time it is 75 to 72 degrees ambient temp and they turn out fine.

 

[Orpheus]

I made another batch last night. I was cooking dinner at the same time and I accidentally put in all four pounds of the dextrose instead of two. Uh oh...

 

[EdWort]

I made another batch last night. I was cooking dinner at the same time and I accidentally put in all four pounds of the dextrose instead of two. Uh oh...

Get another carboy and pour half of it into it, then top off with fresh juice and you will be good to go.

I did one once with 3 lbs and it was a big hit at a party. I had to run for my life the next day.

 

[NoNothing]

Ill be making a batch of this soon. Once I told my roommate I would be homebrewing he mentioned making hard cider.

I instantly thought of good ol EdWort's ApfelWein. Thank god I bought that extra keg, dont know how I would feel drinking cider out of a bottle (woodchuck cider style).

Props EdWord!

 

[Orpheus]

Get another carboy and pour half of it into it, then top off with fresh juice and you will be good to go.

I did one once with 3 lbs and it was a big hit at a party. I had to run for my life the next day.

Genius, Ed, pure genius. 5 more gallons of apple juice it is. I guess I can think of this first batch as a giant yeast starter.

 

[EdWort]

Genius, Ed, pure genius. 5 more gallons of apple juice it is. I guess I can think of this first batch as a giant yeast starter.

There ya go. I'm glad you are going this way, otherwise, you would consume too much and go the way of your avatar.

 

[Damonic]

Ya...that comes up about every 2 or 3 weeks. I'ts ok, but it's not Apfelwein....Check out the cyder Forum....It's discussed nearly to death there. Just to give a strait answer....use 2# and 5 gallons....see what happens.

My bad, should have searched first I know.