Looking for a Natural Gas Burner

[jtcweb]

I've done some searching but most of the info appears to be 2 or more years old. I'm looking to do BIAB in a 15 or 20 gallon pot with a finished volume of 5 gallons (most of the time) or 10 gallons (once or twice a year with a friend).

First I don't understand why natural gas burners are so hard to find. Since I do have NG in my garage to run a small wall heater in the winter when I have to do something out there, I want to tap that line and brew in the garage. Is the burner of choice for this still this one with the orifice drilled out? I'm in S.E. Michigan if that makes a difference.

Thanks

 

[Golddiggie]

You could just get a Blichmann burner and use the different orfice (from Blichmann of course) and pipe it to the gas source.

 

[jaytizzle]

Check these out. Natural Gas isn't as common for outdoor burner use, hence why you'd have trouble finding what you're needing. Fortunately, we use these kinds of things a lot in the south. Beats the heck out of a propane crawfish burner when you've got access to a NG hookup. I'm thinking REAL hard about running a line to my garage and picking up one of these myself.

http://www.bayouboiler.com/

 

[phoenixs4r]

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE-LOW-PRESSURE-BURNER-NO-STAND-P2677.aspx
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http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE-NATURAL-GAS-CONVERSION-VALVE-P2214.aspx

and build a stand, or i THINK blichmann uses the same style burner if you want to go that route.

 

[jtkratzer]

I have three from a Sabco Brew Magic I'd let go. I don't use then since I went electric and never had NG at the house. Shoot me a PM.

 

[OneHoppyGuy]

The only difference is orifice size. NG has a lower BTU and therefore requires more to accomplish the same as propane thus the larger orifice.
This jet burner will work well for NG if used with a needle valve. The needle valve is needed to get the flame height control.

 

[Dog House Brew]

I use 20 tip NG jet burners. I control the flame with a basic gas ball valve. Have great control and no issues doing it like this. I have a 3/4" flex gas line running to the rig.

 

[camiller]

Do check that the existing gas line to the garage for the "small wall heater" is big enough for the BTU's (volume of gas) you want to draw from it.

 

[OneHoppyGuy]

Do check that the existing gas line to the garage for the "small wall heater" is big enough for the BTU's (volume of gas) you want to draw from it.

Do didn't tell him what size it should be.

 

[ThreeDogsNE]

I have 25 gallon pots in which I routinely do 11 gallon batches using the following.

My burners: http://www.cpapc.com/store/3-Ring-Burner-natural-gas-P2361C244.aspx

My valves: http://www.etundra.com/1_8__Gas_Burner_Valve-P1766.html

Valve handles: http://www.fixitshop.com/Merchant2/...ts&Product_Code=KNB-01084&Category_Code=knobs

They'll put out plenty of heat for either 5 or 10 gallon batches. The beauty of these is the dual valves, which allows pretty fine temperature control, and should make it straightforward to run at half speed for 5 gallons, and full speed for 10. Of course, all the parts cost something, but then, you'll not be running out for more propane refills once these are in.

I ran 1" pipe across my rig, without a reduction from the drop. The valves are 1/8" pipe! I ran 1/2 up towards the valves, then a 1/2 to 1/8 reducer at each valve. I suspect for one burner you'd be okay with 1/2 pipe or hose from the wall to the valve. However, I'm not a plumber, which is part of why I hedged my bet and overdid it.

 

[ThreeDogsNE]

I should add that these give adequate heat to boil the 13 or so gallons I start the boil with. I have thought of doing 15 gallon batches, and I don't think they would quite cut it for that volume. I have toyed with adding one of these: http://www.cpapc.com/store/32-Tip-Round-Nozzle-Jet-Burner-P470C244.aspx
or these http://www.topfoodservice.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=KECABJ if I decide to go ahead with 15 gallons.

 

[jtcweb]

Do check that the existing gas line to the garage for the "small wall heater" is big enough for the BTU's (volume of gas) you want to draw from it.

It is the same size as everything else in the house, looks like 1" OD, so I should be fine.