legal or illegal maybe just not right

[brew_ny]

a photo of a camera my neighbor has put on a pole higher them my stockade fence

the yard is totally fence in

Legal, illegal or just not right........ your thoughts

all the best

S_M

 

[mongoose33]

I don't know if it's illegal or legal, but it certainly is a privacy issue.

Depending on your relationship w/ your neighbor, you might ask about it. Perhaps before doing that, you might ask the Police for a ruling. Since you have taken pains to have a privacy fence, it seems to me that a camera whose positioning is designed to defeat that is little different than a Peeping Tom.

 

[TX_Brewing]

Move to Texas and you could shoot the camera......


In reality though I agree with mongoose.

 

[brew_ny]

I don't know if it's illegal or legal, but it certainly is a privacy issue.

Depending on your relationship w/ your neighbor, you might ask about it. Perhaps before doing that, you might ask the Police for a ruling. Since you have taken pains to have a privacy fence, it seems to me that a camera whose positioning is designed to defeat that is little different than a Peeping Tom.

sadly the neighbor is a waste of human flesh

until I put up the fence they would watch me brew with binoculars and one day had the police out here because they told them I was making speed

of course being some what of smart ass told the police if I could make speed I would have no need for a day job

thanks for your thoughts

S_M

 

[brew_ny]

Move to Texas and you could shoot the camera......


In reality though I agree with mongoose.

I have thought about doing just that but being a three time convicted felon I do not have guns

also thought about pointing a laser at it and frying the CCD but that just makes it tit for tat

which i stopped playing at 10 years old

I may just rent a port a pottie and face the door to the camera then see if it is OK to point a camera at someone bathroom


all the best

S_M

 

[unionrdr]

Definitely invasion of privacy & you can take him to court over that & the history of problems with unwarranted trouble from this overly-nosy neighbor. We do have laws against ignorant crap like this! I've called my union's lawyers over stuff like this & talked with them & the cops before about it. They're slowly learning to leave this long-haired country boy alone!
Charlie Daniels was outspoken on the subject as well...

 

[TX_Brewing]

In that case just put up a board the blocks the field of view of the camera...

 

[Knkbrand]

In that case just put up a board the blocks the field of view of the camera...

simple fix

 

[brew_ny]

In that case just put up a board the blocks the field of view of the camera...

thought of that but when it moves higher we are back to where we are now

maybe walk around up there in just sneakers

S_M

 

[JONNYROTTEN]

That would piss me the F off like I cant even imagine...BAD BAD things would happen if that was my nieghbor

 

[howamidriving]

I would just walk around naked in your backyard until he takes it down.

Of course if he doesn't take it down now you have a whole new problem

 

[brew_ny]

That would piss me the F off like I cant even imagine...BAD BAD things would happen if that was my nieghbor

I have already had those thoughts

wanted to stop them and throw a coffee can of unleaded in their pickup followed by a zippo

but my wife talked with me about all the downside to that idea

but I am with you

S_M

 

[unionrdr]

You really need to have it out with this nosy fool, your lawyers & the law! He is not allowed to invade your privacy looking for things to complain about that turn out to be completely innocent! They can't do that!!! Darn fools watched me with binoculars, then found themselves starin' at my rifle with a scope on it watchin' them right back! They stopped when the cops found out they were invading my privacy first.

 

[mongoose33]

I've thought a little more about this.

That camera has only one purpose, and that's to invade your privacy. I can't imagine there's not a law against that, but even if there isn't, perhaps a disorderly conduct charge, a stalking charge, something along those lines.

 

[Hoppy2bmerry]

Paintball slingshot.

 

[Hoppy2bmerry]

Not illegal, just not right. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/476/207

 

[TX_Brewing]

thought of that but when it moves higher we are back to where we are now

maybe walk around up there in just sneakers

S_M

Your right to do so in your back yard!!

 

[Littletimmy]

Rational: talk with police, city code enforcement, lawyers etc..

Irrational: Get a waterproof poster of Johnny Cash flippin' the bird and hang it in the line of sight...adjust as needed!

 

[TX_Brewing]

Not illegal, just not right. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/476/207

I think a judge would see it differently as this is a private citizen putting up the camera, not the police looking for criminal activity....

 

[k1ngl1ves]

Call the police. No point in you getting into more trouble.



Or I'd go in their yard at night and steal it.






Yeah... I'd go steal it at 3am on a Tuesday.

 

[TX_Brewing]

Or put up one of your own facing their property.

 

[pointcity-homebrew]

Or put up one of your own facing their property.

I would put one up right in front of theirs, or make a privacy sign out of plywood and put it right in front of it.


I could have so much fun with this situation.

 

[hagar]

-Fill your yard with creepy clown manikins all facing the camera.
-Erect a screen facing the camera and project a slideshow of other peoples back yards onto it.
-Erect a screen facing the camera and project live image of THEIR back yard onto it.
-Erect a screen facing the camera and project pictures of very old people having sex onto it.

Just some thoughts.

But really, that is an intrusion on your privacy of the highest order, not to mention stalking and harrasment. Get law enforcement involved. Sick f^$% your neighbor is.

 

[CGVT]

Get a pellet gun and shoot out the lens.

 

[divrguy]

Laser, BBgun or a sign in front of it that says **** off! I wouldn't stand for it!

 

[ToddStark]

if you have kids in your yard under age 18 that could be another issue to pursue. You don't know what is being done with the pictures and trafficking in photo's of minors could be a legal issue as well.

 

[Murphys_Law]

I think its time to f%%k with them. Go out one night and dig a big hole in the yard, and assuming the wife will play along, drag her "dead body" through the yard and into the hole.

Or just call the police and tell them what your neighbor has done. I can't imagine this isn't akin to being a peeping tom

 

[mongoose33]

Not illegal, just not right. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/476/207

Not sure this applies. The basis of the argument in the link was police flying over at 1000 feet and readily observing marijuana plants growing in the backyard. It wasn't continuous surveillance and the camera in question in OP's post isn't from the police (presumably).

It seems to me--I'm no lawyer, and I don't play one on TV--that the OP put up a fence to gain some privacy; the next-door neighbor then installed a camera to circumvent that.

 

[Hoppy2bmerry]

I think a judge would see it differently as this is a private citizen putting up the camera, not the police looking for criminal activity....

It could be possibly be considered harassment, though I suppose they would need to be doing something with the images to make the case. I'm not a lawyer, but I enjoy the hobby of photography. I can legally take photos of a person's home from a public area, and places where I am not trespassing, so from my own yard, or second story window, for example. I cannot stand on the sidewalk and legally zoom into your windows. That would be an invasion of privacy. Google Earth satellite images will show our property to anyone searching and there is a paid version that offers great detail. The neighbor could claim they wish to take pictures of birds that land on the fence.

Personally, I'd want to give them a bird when ever I walked by, but they may just want OP to feel like he is being watched, based on the call to police. Just my additional 2 cents.

 

[phil74501]

Do you have a pool or something in your backyard? Maybe they're trying to get pics of your teenage daughter and friends around the pool. (That actually happened in Kentucky, only it was a drone. Homeowner shot it out of the sky with a shotgun.) My guess is, given your previous run in with them, that they still think you're making speed, or doing something illegal, and are trying to gather proof of it.

Try this. Go to Lowes or Home Depot, or get on Amazon, buy a really powerful spotlight, aim light right at camera. Now all they'll get is pics of a really bright light.