Lambic Discussion Thread

[tylerk88]

Had an Etre box that was shipped Tuesday and was delivered today (Boston, MA). Certainly the fastest international box that I've received.

To keep this on topic: I'm most excited to try the Antidoot beer, as well as the 3F Framboos Oogst, which I've not had.

 

[RuckIt]

the 3F Framboos Oogst, which I've not had

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can chime in, but "Oogst" translates to "Harvest". So "Framboos Oogst 2017" means literally "Raspberry Harvest 2017". Is there a difference between "Framboos Oogst" and the last 3F "Framboos" other than the vintage?

 

[Saind]

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can chime in, but "Oogst" translates to "Harvest". So "Framboos Oogst 2017" means literally "Raspberry Harvest 2017". Is there a difference between "Framboos Oogst" and the last 3F "Framboos" other than the vintage?

You're spot on

The raspberries were from the 2017 harvest, that's it

 

[Saind]

It's interesting that for this special blend they even tasted the lambics, it's usually like you quoted above a standard recipe and he just blends the barrels he has.

He still tastes to determine what specific barrels to use.

 

[RuckIt]

Had an Etre box that was shipped Tuesday and was delivered today (Boston, MA)

Fingers crossed that mine which shipped today has the same route. My last Etre box hit US customs, went missing for 4 weeks, then arrived back in Belgium. They charged me another $100 to ship it again, and I'm amazed nothing froze or was otherwise damaged during either trip.

 

[stupac2]

You're spot on

The raspberries were from the 2017 harvest, that's it

The label (which, at least on the imported version, folds out and has a lot of information and pictures on it) claims that there's more to it than that, although I don't recall specifically what. Also, the Oogst was easily the best Framboos that I've had and I'm kicking myself for not going after any when it hit here because "meh Framboos isn't worth $60".

 

[Saind]

The label (which, at least on the imported version, folds out and has a lot of information and pictures on it) claims that there's more to it than that, although I don't recall specifically what. Also, the Oogst was easily the best Framboos that I've had and I'm kicking myself for not going after any when it hit here because "meh Framboos isn't worth $60".

I do speak Dutch pretty well

 

[stupac2]

I do speak Dutch pretty well

Ok, sure, but here's the label: http://www.lambic.info/3_Fonteinen_...SA_-_1035_ex._-_(zonder_roze_achtergrond).jpg

That seems to be saying it isn't the normal process (as in, prior batches didn't use this fruit or didn't have the same "collaboration"), but maybe it's just advertising?

 

[Saind]

Ok, sure, but here's the label: http://www.lambic.info/3_Fonteinen_...SA_-_1035_ex._-_(zonder_roze_achtergrond).jpg

That seems to be saying it isn't the normal process (as in, prior batches didn't use this fruit or didn't have the same "collaboration"), but maybe it's just advertising?

They sourced the fruit from a different place. Which is a very important aspect of fruit beer obviously

 

[SeaWatchman]

Ok, sure, but here's the label: http://www.lambic.info/3_Fonteinen_...SA_-_1035_ex._-_(zonder_roze_achtergrond).jpg

That seems to be saying it isn't the normal process (as in, prior batches didn't use this fruit or didn't have the same "collaboration"), but maybe it's just advertising?

There’s nothing really crazy going on with the different Framboos labels. For all intents and purposes it’s the same beer but potentially different sources for the raspberries depending on the bottling. And again I’ll reiterate: oogst just means harvest.

 

[nathanmiller]

I can't believe this but I didn't buy the Hommage on etre. There's still four bottles left.

But that would be the only thing I want in this go-round and I can't possibly fill a box. Especially because I'm trying to decrease the amount of beer I have at home.

I feel like a disgrace.

 

[Der Fuchs]

I do speak Dutch pretty well

stupaced

 

[stupac2]

They sourced the fruit from a different place. Which is a very important aspect of fruit beer obviously

There’s nothing really crazy going on with the different Framboos labels. For all intents and purposes it’s the same beer but potentially different sources for the raspberries depending on the bottling. And again I’ll reiterate: oogst just means harvest.

I'm really confused here, you guys are saying both that it just means "harvest" (which no one is disputing...) but also that it signifies that they switched to a new source of fruit (which can be quite important with a fruit beer), so it's meaningless but it also has meaning?

At any rate, I enjoyed it far more than I have any previous Framboos batch (while not expecting to, given all the previous "it just means harvest" talk), and it sounds like they're going to keep that same source going forward so hopefully that continues.

 

[Saind]

I'm really confused here, you guys are saying both that it just means "harvest" (which no one is disputing...) but also that it signifies that they switched to a new source of fruit (which can be quite important with a fruit beer), so it's meaningless but it also has meaning?

At any rate, I enjoyed it far more than I have any previous Framboos batch (while not expecting to, given all the previous "it just means harvest" talk), and it sounds like they're going to keep that same source going forward so hopefully that continues.

It doesn't signify anything. The word "oogst" that is.

They switched up their act. They changed labels, changed fruit suppliers, changed facilities, ****'s changed.
The word oogst on the label isn't very significant but that doesn't mean the beer isn't different from the older versions of Framboos

 

[stakem1]

I cant wait to live in a world where people refuse to buy framboos without first cross referencing which row of bushes the raspberries came from before deciding whether they achieved enough sunlight/ripeness to warrant a good batch or not.

This is some real - my well water is better than yours ******** if i ever read it.

Signed,
A beer lover who just wants to enjoy good beer without paying $60 a bottle

 

[Nivek43]

I cant wait to live in a world where people refuse to buy framboos without first cross referencing which row of bushes the raspberries came from before deciding whether they achieved enough sunlight/ripeness to warrant a good batch or not.

This is some real - my well water is better than yours ******** if i ever read it.

Signed,
A beer lover who just wants to enjoy good beer without paying $60 a bottle

That's why I contact my master cicerone before every beer purchase.

 

[nophunk]

I can't believe this but I didn't buy the Hommage on etre. There's still four bottles left.

But that would be the only thing I want in this go-round and I can't possibly fill a box. Especially because I'm trying to decrease the amount of beer I have at home.

I feel like a disgrace.

I haven't started a reservation in a year I think. It got out of control filling a box or two every quarter. I'm really lucky my buddy threw an OG magnum in his box for me. I have never gotten one of those previously

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

I cant wait to live in a world where people refuse to buy framboos without first cross referencing which row of bushes the raspberries came from before deciding whether they achieved enough sunlight/ripeness to warrant a good batch or not.

This is some real - my well water is better than yours ******** if i ever read it.

Signed,
A beer lover who just wants to enjoy good beer without paying $60 a bottle

Berries are fairly close to wine grapes in terms of harvest conditions and varietals playing a big role in the quality of flavor. Unripe raspberries from mass grown varietals are bland af and definitely should not be in a $60 bottle.

But I'm probably not buying a $60 bottle of raspberry lambic anyway.

 

[stupac2]

It doesn't signify anything. The word "oogst" that is.

They switched up their act. They changed labels, changed fruit suppliers, changed facilities, ****'s changed.
The word oogst on the label isn't very significant but that doesn't mean the beer isn't different from the older versions of Framboos

So they changed everything at the same time they slapped a new word on the label, but the word doesn't signify anything. Got it.

 

[BelgianChris]

375ml Golden Blend 2018 to go at the brewery.

 

[JohnfromPurdue]

Lambic, not lambic, don’t care. This used to be one of my go tos. Found this one dusting up the shelf at my local. Date on the bottle is 7-2013, not sure if that is bottled or best by. Definite carb loss but taste is spot on. The Cantillon Lambic comes through well but it’s softened by the saison. Still a fantastic beer. I wish it was still made it.

 

[Mug Costanza]

375ml Golden Blend 2018 to go at the brewery.

 

[iong516]

Well this is delicious and incredibly drinkable kinda like that 2016 GB I wrote about the other day... somehow watery and paradoxically incredibly flavorful, soft, no off oxidized flavors, very low on sourness and bitterness for style, just beautiful. Low carb but nice head with a moderately aggressive pour or swirling in the glass, no bubbles to the mouthfeel. Jan 2006 back label that I can send to SeaWatchman if you want it for the page.

 

[andrewdrinks]

375ml Golden Blend 2018 to go at the brewery.

Oh please last a couple of weeks

 

[Maakun]

He still tastes to determine what specific barrels to use.

Interesting, that's not what he told me 2 years ago (he basically said he doesn't believe in it, science is better, and it's too much work to move all the barrels around anyway). Maybe it's changed, or he was just bullshitting.

 

[mjohnson171]

Interesting, that's not what he told me 2 years ago (he basically said he doesn't believe in it, science is better, and it's too much work to move all the barrels around anyway). Maybe it's changed, or he was just bullshitting.

Having just taken part in a lambic blending I can believe this. When you have unique, yet all great barrels, and blend them to different ratios they are all different but all taste amazing. So tasting and picking individual characteristics from each barrel to blend in a certain way to highlight certain aspects for a special blend/released beer is likely. But I’m now convinced for stuff like Oude Gueuze and fruited blends produced in a higher quantity/rate breweries/blenders probably just blend to a specific ratio. Otherwise as Maakun said, it would be a huge effort for what is likely a small effect on the end product.

 

[The Red Viper]

Has anyone found a specific storage tub/bin for 750ml bottles that you like? Ideally at a low price? I’ve always just used wine rack shelving but I’m out of shelf space and wondering if tubs would be a better/cheaper option for expansion.

 

[Gaseous Clay]

Has anyone found a specific storage tub/bin for 750ml bottles that you like? Ideally at a low price? I’ve always just used wine rack shelving but I’m out of shelf space and wondering if tubs would be a better/cheaper option for expansion.

Pulp wine shippers have been my go-to recently. They’re stackable, safe, and compact. I know that’s not what you’re asking for, but if you can’t find a bin you like these are a good option.

 

[The Red Viper]

Pulp wine shippers have been my go-to recently. They’re stackable, safe, and compact. I know that’s not what you’re asking for, but if you can’t find a bin you like these are a good option.

Yeah and I already have a bunch of these from ordering wine. I’m using some right now for storing overflow wine bottles. The problem is they take up like twice as much space per bottle as straight stacking in a box/bin and with my wine cellar growing even faster than beer, space is at a premium...

 

[Dbijnagte]

Milk crates seem to work pretty well. I just use racks and a wine fridge.