Kick A Banjo Burner?

[Hegh]

You just change orifices to move between NG and propane. From memory it is about 25 minutes to boil 6 gal on my NG Hurricane in my 15 gal SS pot.

I'm not familiar with gas terminology... When you say 'orifice,' is that like an adapter change for the interface between the burner and the gas line?

 

[COLObrewer]

I was wondering about the same thing with a keggle on a Kick a Banjo. The four posts just don't seem spaced right for a keg to sit on it securely.

Modified mine like this:

The newer KAB4s posts are taller, so I cut them, lowered them and turned them around/rewelded them so the larger dia. keggles like pony kegs will be easier to set on it. Also I have a 65 gal square stainless tank I set on it.:rockin:

Edited: By the way I got mine at brewmasters warehouse, was cheapest I could find due to cheaper shipping.

 

[Catt22]

I'm not familiar with gas terminology... When you say 'orifice,' is that like an adapter change for the interface between the burner and the gas line?

The gas orifice is basically referring to the fitting with the small hole typically located at the end of the gas line where it attaches to the burner. The optimum orifice size is dictated by the type of fuel used and the gas pressure. Natural gas requires a larger orifice than propane. That's about all I know regarding the gas orifices.

 

[Sudz]

I'm not familiar with gas terminology... When you say 'orifice,' is that like an adapter change for the interface between the burner and the gas line?

The orifice is a brass (usually) restrictor that screws into the inlet of the burner. It's purpose is to limit the flow of gas to maintain the correct combustion ratio of air to fuel for proper operation of the burner.

Propane orifice jets are smaller because propane is delivered at higher pressures and propane has a different fuel air ratio requirement. Changing to NG requires a larger jet to accommodate the lower pressure of the typical home gas supply and the different fuel air ratio requirement for NG.

To change from one to the other simply requires you unscrew one and screw in the other one. A couple of minutes tops. The hose connections are obviously different since connections to a propane bottle and your house NG are different type of connections.

 

[springer]

Modified mine like this:

The newer KAB4s posts are taller, so I cut them, lowered them and turned them around/rewelded them so the larger dia. keggles like pony kegs will be easier to set on it. Also I have a 65 gal square stainless tank I set on it.:rockin:

Edited: By the way I got mine at brewmasters warehouse, was cheapest I could find due to cheaper shipping.

I made the same mod in Feb. Works great now

Keggle sit perfectly on it now

 

[COLObrewer]

I made the same mod in Feb. Works great now

Keggle sit perfectly on it now
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Great minds think alike, It makes all the kegs fit better;

 

[Hegh]

The orifice is a brass (usually) restrictor that screws into the inlet of the burner. It's purpose is to limit the flow of gas to maintain the correct combustion ratio of air to fuel for proper operation of the burner.

Propane orifice jets are smaller because propane is delivered at higher pressures and propane has a different fuel air ratio requirement. Changing to NG requires a larger jet to accommodate the lower pressure of the typical home gas supply and the different fuel air ratio requirement for NG.

To change from one to the other simply requires you unscrew one and screw in the other one. A couple of minutes tops. The hose connections are obviously different since connections to a propane bottle and your house NG are different type of connections.

Ahh, okay, thanks. That was very clear and helpful.

I may end up just going for the KAB anyway, though, since it's cheaper and I don't have an NG line running out from my house. If I ever get around to upgrading to a real rig I may change burners, since I'd likely be brewing more and therefore going through more propane.

 

[mandoman]

so no one has actual experience with the kab6 and the adapter from NB combo?

 

[shoebag22]

I've got two of the Kick A's. They're great. The only issue with them was that when I got them in the post, they were both broken. The welds for the legs were very weak and they had come apart. Easy fix. I pulled out the welder and reattached the legs back on with better welds. I've found that I can get an extra batch out of my propane since I can turn them way down and still keep a good solid boil going.
And they are superdy quiet.
Heavy lil *******, though.

Looking at the stand has me concerned that it just looks so flimsy... any thoughts?

 

[Hegh]

Looking at the stand has me concerned that it just looks so flimsy... any thoughts?

The KAB6 uses thicker struts for doing heavier boils.

 

[shoebag22]

How can you tell which model/version you are purchasing? Northern Brewer only says it is the low profile banjo burner...
http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewi...ow-profile-banjo-burner-burner-and-stand.html

 

[Hegh]

How can you tell which model/version you are purchasing? Northern Brewer only says it is the low profile banjo burner...
http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewi...ow-profile-banjo-burner-burner-and-stand.html

Call and ask, that's what I did. I ended up buying mine from BrewMaster's Warehouse.

 

[wheelerc6]

so no one has actual experience with the kab6 and the adapter from NB combo?

Has anyone been able to convert the KAB6 (high pressure banjo) to NG?

 

[BigJason]

Has anyone been able to convert the KAB6 (high pressure banjo) to NG?

I bought the KAB from Northern Brewer, and just test fired off a temporary hookup to my NG using the conversion valve from Williams Brewing. http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HURRICANE_CONVERSION_VALVE_P2214C87.cfm

Fired fine, good flame, and a lot of heat. It will be some time before I do a full test batch, as I have to plumb from my stub to the outside, and that will require some time removing a number of drop ceiling tiles and getting a Quick Disconnect kit and hose. But it seemed very hot, about as much as off my 40 lb Propane tank and the stock orifice.