Just looking for 2 vessel brewers

[4of7]

I do not use a BIAB. The BE is a no sparge, kettle RIMS system. No bags. Top vessel has your standard false bottom.

Yes, 8.5 hrs. I’m a bad example to use in determining the time for a BE brew day for several reasons...

1. I’m honest. I’m not hedging in order to gain others approval or admiration of my process. It is what it is.
2. I prep the evening before so i can sip coffee and watch the sun come up with my Dad while water comes to strike. Others choose to be productive during this time...yay.
3. I am fortunate to not need to rush...very fortunate. One of the reasons I went to 15G was to increase supply w/o increasing brewing frequency. I love to brew but cant do it every other weekend.....yet. I get up about 6:30 and in the garage at 7:00 to start. As long as I’m done in time to light the grill for dinner then I don’t care. I do this every 4th or 5th Sunday...it’s all I do on this day....and my family supports me in that.
4. Every step milling, heating, mashing, chilling, and cleaning could be shortened in my process ... there’s no doubt. If that’s what you’re intersted in i would go to the BE thread on this site and survey other BE users who optimize around time.

Yes, I like that it’s plug and play but what I LOVE is that I can do 20G batches and my equip takes up a 2’x2’ sq ft in my garage...that’s what I love. This let me match the frequency of when i can brew w/ the need to keep a solid supply going. I will also say that I was in the right place at the right time when I picked this system up for a very very good price. Brand new this is a very expensive outfit...unlikely I would have ever been able to justify $$ for a new one but I’m sure loving the one i have.

My grain bills are usually around 40lbs. Most of my beers are 6-7%abv and I’m heating about 25G of water to strike on brew day. I run 69-72% eff on my BE...it’s no sparge so if you like chasing 80% eff then move along...there’s nothing to see here.

Cheers!

I sure that it adds time to your Brew day when your batches are 15 gallon... must have a lot of fermentation vessels
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[Moose_MI]

I sure that it adds time to your Brew day when your batches are 15 gallon... must have a lot of fermentation vessels
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I probably have 6 fermenters or so but I only need 3. I don’t brew beers that require long time in fermenter. I keg my beers at 3 weeks and since I’m brewing every 4/5 weeks I rarely have more than 3 fermenters in service at any one time. I have 9 kegs...that’s usually the thing that throttles my brewing. 9 kegs is enough beer for me to have on hand at any given time.

I’ve been tempted to get more kegs but my experience has been that once I transfer from fermenter to keg I need to keep the beer cold or some off flavors start to develop. So gettin more kegs would mean a larger keezer or another freezer to “lagger” my stock.

If I buy another fridge/freezer for beer my wife says I have to sleep in it.

 

[d3track]

My current 2V system - in the process of converting the kettle from propane to electric, and as much on voice control as I can.

 

[Moose_MI]

........and then this guy shows up with a voice control rig and made us all look like hacks....sheesh

 

[4of7]

Yes ,like somebody give the mash a stir.. thanks

 

[d3track]

........and then this guy shows up with a voice control rig and made us all look like hacks....sheesh

Ha! It has to all work first! (and at that, I hope it adds some fun to the brew day and doesn't end up too gimicky)

 

[4of7]

My current 2V system - in the process of converting the kettle from propane to electric, and as much on voice control as I can.View attachment 601783 View attachment 601784

To convert to VC, What are adding to the control panel

 

[d3track]

To convert to VC, What are adding to the control panel

I'm using a Google Voice Kit and CraftbeerPi in the new control panel

 

[milldoggy]

I just moved from doing a 3 vessel Herms for 8years to a full volume mash, 2 vessel. Really like it. Been doing overnight mashed too. I heat my strike water up in my bk, 10 gallons at a time. I add my grain to mt, then fill with the first 10 gallons from the bk. I fill from the bottom on the mash tun. Water temp around 170 to make 154 mash. I add the rest of the strike to the bk and heat. I add that to the mash when heated, 25-35 mins. I use electric so pretty easy to do. For overnight, cover mash with 5 comforters. Only drop 10 degrees overnight. Morning drain, boil as normal.

 

[4of7]

I'm using a Google Voice Kit and CraftbeerPi in the new control panel

Thanks for your reply and info

 

[4of7]

I just moved from doing a 3 vessel Herms for 8years to a full volume mash, 2 vessel. Really like it. Been doing overnight mashed too. I heat my strike water up in my bk, 10 gallons at a time. I add my grain to mt, then fill with the first 10 gallons from the bk. I fill from the bottom on the mash tun. Water temp around 170 to make 154 mash. I add the rest of the strike to the bk and heat. I add that to the mash when heated, 25-35 mins. I use electric so pretty easy to do. For overnight, cover mash with 5 comforters. Only drop 10 degrees overnight. Morning drain, bocanil as normal.

Can you tell the difference between when you over night mash.. I have read this before. I have done it because I started way to late and just mashed in put the lid and finish the next morning...do you use a bag in the mash tun

 

[4of7]

Thanks to all for responding.. I will continue to chase information on two vessel brewing. I want to explain why I'm doing this first I am a e Brewer with two vessels using a brew in a bag method now while some use the mash tun slash cooler I use the mash tun in a Brew kettle. It was inspired from The Brew Brutus 20 that the cross circulation is what I was after to see how others have been doing it and ask a question why to see if they use a bag to see if the bag takes more or less time better or less in there Brew day. And also to see in there Brew day if they can Brew to the capacity of the main Brew kettle thank you beer troll out

 

[Jag75]

I do two vessel two level brewing. Pump up and gravity down. View attachment 601640

What is all that green stuff there? Lol.

 

[4of7]

What is all that green stuff there? Lol.

That is what you work on during the mash..

 

[milldoggy]

Can you tell the difference between when you over night mash.. I have read this before. I have done it because I started way to late and just mashed in put the lid and finish the next morning...do you use a bag in the mash tun

No bag, I have a nice false bottom. Beer taste great, kegging an hazy ipa tonight, similar to a recipe I did in my herms. Looking forward. I think there is less bite, I believe I was over extracting with my herms.

 

[4of7]

I brewed for years with a 100l kettle and a 10 gallon cooler mash tun.
I used a stainless mesh in the tun.
Heat strike water in the kettle.
Mash in.
Heat sparge water in the kettle.
Sparge and draw off into buckets until the sparge water is used up.
Dump the bucketed wort into the kettle and finish the sparge.
Boil away.
I was doing 15 gallons typically.

Are you transfering into 15 keg fermenter . Transfer into 15 seving keg

 

[4of7]

I just moved from doing a 3 vessel Herms for 8years to a full volume mash, 2 vessel. Really like it. Been doing overnight mashed too. I heat my strike water up in my bk, 10 gallons at a time. I add my grain to mt, then fill with the first 10 gallons from the bk. I fill from the bottom on the mash tun. Water temp around 170 to make 154 mash. I add the rest of the strike to the bk and heat. I add that to the mash when heated, 25-35 mins. I use electric so pretty easy to do. For overnight, cover mash with 5 comforters. Only drop 10 degrees overnight. Morning drain, boil as normal.

Are you doing a full volume with the two vessel?

 

[milldoggy]

Are you doing a full volume with the two vessel?

Yes, bk is a keggle, mash tun was a 20 gallon pot. Filled to rim was full volumn mash for 10g batch. Just got a 25 gallon concord and soldered in the fittings, will make for more wiggle room. Since my bk is only 15 gallons, I have to heat mash water up in two batches. Might upgrade to a matching 25 gallon bk now I got my silver soldering skills honed in.

Kegged my ne hazey ipa tonight, much better mouthfeel than herms batches. Creamy like. Think this full volume mash got merit

 

[4of7]

Yes, bk is a keggle, mash tun was a 20 gallon pot. Filled to rim was full volumn mash for 10g batch. Just got a 25 gallon concord and soldered in the fittings, will make for more wiggle room. Since my bk is only 15 gallons, I have to heat mash water up in two batches. Might upgrade to a matching 25 gallon bk now I got my silver soldering skills honed in.

Kegged my ne hazey ipa tonight, much better mouthfeel than herms batches. Creamy like. Think this full volume mash got merit

You are tasting the difference between herms and the heating element.?

 

[4of7]

I am on the chase for two vessel brewers. I would like to read about your brew day and process.

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1. First cup of espresso
2. Grind more home roasted coffee beans for second shot espresso
3. Tip up vessels as they are laid on side when not in use
4. Hook up sk/Bk ,cam lock, bottom valve to inlet on the pump,inlet side is on bottom,,all valves are closed
5. Add 5 gallon on starsan.,hook up hose to pump outlet side ,hose is not hooked up
6. Prime pump put outlet hose in catch bucket, open valve on bk,open valve at pump,,there should be liquid flowing freely in to bucket,turn off all valves ,hook up hose for recirculation
7. I attacth all the connections to the Control Panel..Connect Control panel to main gfci spa panel
8. Turn on bk pump for recirculation, check for leaks
9. Turn on heat for bk..ezboil,,mash mode
10. Starsan for 10 minutes
11. Turn off heat and pump ,turn off valves ,unhook hose on the vessel top in recirculation,
12 . Drain all star san into fermenting precleaned vessel

 

[milldoggy]

You are tasting the difference between herms and the heating element.?

No, oversparging. Herms fly sparge can allow the ph to drop to low in the mash and you extract tannins.