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We Knew This Was Going To Happen: iPhone Equipped Passenger Takes On Flight Crew Over Weather



One of our subscribers sent me this story today. We all knew this one was inevitable when the latest iPhone commercial rolled out -- now didnt we?
"Oh joy! I can't wait for the next ground delay or long taxi due to weather somewhere to get a smart ass with a freakin I-phone shoving it in my face saying "It's NOT raining there... SEE !" Too late ... already happened to me. We push back, get advised of a ground stop in MEM due to storms in the area. Go to the penalty box and wait. My Captain does the lecture over the PA... not one minute later, we get dinged from the F/A "Some guy with an IPhone says the weather is good, and wants to know what the real reason is for the delay. Is something wrong with the plane?"

I want to tell this clown what he can do with his IdiotPhone - but the Captain does it even better. He gets on the PA and makes the following announcement :

"If the passenger with the IPhone would be kind enough to use it to check the weather at our alternate, calculate our fuel burn due to being rerouted around the storms, call the dispatcher to arrange our release, and then make a phone call to the nearest Air Traffic Control center to arrange our timely departure amongst the other aircraft carrying passengers with IPhones, then we will be more than happy to depart. Please ring your call button to advise the Flight Attendant and your fellow passengers when you deem it ready and responsible for this multi-million dollar aircraft and its passengers to safely leave."

Needless to say, the pax was pretty embarrassed. The F/A later told us the rest of the plane was outright laughing at this dude. What a clown."
 
I agree, I think it's a load of poo. Most of the time the airline says it's weather related, it's only so that it doesn't detract from their "on-time" measures, that's also why they pull away from the gate.
 
If this is a true story, it's pretty funny. If not, then it's still a good story.

:off: I was coming back from O'hare once and noticed we started losing altitude a lot sooner than I had expected. Soon I see us approaching a runway and there's firetrucks and ambulances lined up down the runway. I'm not an expert on aviation regulations but I'm pretty sure firetrucks and ambulances chasing the plane down the runway is a bad thing.

Turns out fuel wouldn't pump out of one of the wings hence the emergency vehicles. (At least, that's what we were told) Lets see an IPhone fix that.

Back on topic, why do people feel the need to tell the experts they know more about their job than the expert does?
 
Interesting how everything in this account is about jumping right into the negative, from the title on in.

Someone is a sad panda. :(
 
Neomich said:
Back on topic, why do people feel the need to tell the experts they know more about their job than the expert does?

Because they have an iPhone. Any lackings they have in education, social class, manners or any other areas are absolved through this incredibly intelligent investment. He and the other couple million iPhone owners are individuals. They believe in a company that touts the kid from Ed over the dude from The Daily Show. They know that a phone is meant to distract people from the rest of the world.

iPhone users are fantastic. They'll never fear losing their phone, iPod and camera all in one fell swoop. They'll just replace it! just like the continuously replace their OS. That's Mac's motto: buy more and prove you're different.
 
Here is some more background.

The story is, admittedly, apocryphal. The tone of this thread is negative because it is so damned disingenuous of Apple to think that the iPhone somehow revolutionizes Air Traffic Control delays. Just imagine a similar Apple spot with your vocation (IT suppose) and some tool claiming he has the fix downloaded for your Oracle access and permission issue or some other such nonsense.

It's a damned phone with web access.

Here's the Salon dope.
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2007/11/16/askthepilot254/
 
brewt00l said:
Are people really getting this worked up over snarky TV commercials for a consumer electronics product?

As long as we're asking rhetorical questions:
Did you post that question because you didn't know the answer?
 
I personally found the commercial to be pretty stupid (I thought it was pretty common knowledge that "weather" delays were a lot more complicated than "it's raining"), but it's not like it personally offended me. That particular commercial stuck out at me, because even though I'm not an Apple guy, the ads are usually pretty smart and clever, and that one stuck out as being deceitful. Seemed out of character.

Am I the only one who hates that snarky little pro-Apple dude in the Mac commericals? Those always make me want to buy a PC.
 
olllllo said:
As long as we're asking rhetorical questions:
Did you post that question because you didn't know the answer?

Yes. My question was not rhetorical at all...I am kinda surprised by Cheesefood's post and didn't expect this kind of adverse reaction to advertising spots.
 
the_bird said:
Am I the only one who hates that snarky little pro-Apple dude in the Mac commericals? Those always make me want to buy a PC.

Jon Hodgeman is eminently more charming than a guy that patterns himself after "Bill and Ted" era Keaneau Reeves.
 
I obviously need to stop accessing the web from my Moto Q for weather information since I can't use my finger to pan the screen. Or my Samsung web enabled phone circa 2003...
 
Cheesefood said:
Because they have an iPhone. Any lackings they have in education, social class, manners or any other areas are absolved through this incredibly intelligent investment. He and the other couple million iPhone owners are individuals. They believe in a company that touts the kid from Ed over the dude from The Daily Show. They know that a phone is meant to distract people from the rest of the world.

iPhone users are fantastic. They'll never fear losing their phone, iPod and camera all in one fell swoop. They'll just replace it! just like the continuously replace their OS. That's Mac's motto: buy more and prove you're different.

By "they" do you mean all iPhone owners? Are you saying everyone with an iPhone is like that?
 
the_bird said:
I personally found the commercial to be pretty stupid (I thought it was pretty common knowledge that "weather" delays were a lot more complicated than "it's raining"), but it's not like it personally offended me. That particular commercial stuck out at me, because even though I'm not an Apple guy, the ads are usually pretty smart and clever, and that one stuck out as being deceitful. Seemed out of character.

My thoughts exactly. As if you can't use weather.com without an iPhone.
 
And better yet, as if any self respecting pilot would use weather.com especially for a flight. I think I say that out loud every time I see the commercial. There are approved sources - duat(s) and WSI come to mind.

And on the mac vs pc commercial I'd wish they'd stop using the term PC as who they're really competing with is windows. PC=personal computer, last time I checked that also = mac/linux/windows/BSD/any other OS that is used in a non-server environment.
 
z987k said:
And on the mac vs pc commercial I'd wish they'd stop using the term PC as who they're really competing with is windows. PC=personal computer, last time I checked that also = mac/linux/windows/BSD/any other OS that is used in a non-server environment.
I completely agree. It annoys the **** out of me!
 
No iPhone here. I just picked up some Samsung SCH-i760's for my users at work and I love it so far.

I also doubt the story is true, but it made me laugh.
 
I just played around with an iphone for the first time the other night, and I liked it. I can't afford one, but I like how it worked.
Does everyone feel better now that they have vented a bit?
Virtually all commercials are stupid, and there are certainly many that are more nauseating than Apple's. Whatever they are doing, it's working. Mac sales are increasing, iPhone sells like hotcakes, oh damn them for their success.
I personally think most cell phone users are annoying, what with their top 40 ring tones playing top volume and talking at 10X the necessary volume.
Call me a curmudgeon, but my phone is permanently on vibrate, out of sight in my pocket, and is only used to achieve specific communication tasks (answer work questions, tell the wife where I am, get a shopping list from her, etc.) Being on the phone makes me uncomfortable and I get off as quick as I can.
 
Germey said:
Call me a curmudgeon, but my phone is permanently on vibrate, out of sight in my pocket, and is only used to achieve specific communication tasks (answer work questions, tell the wife where I am, get a shopping list from her, etc.) Being on the phone makes me uncomfortable and I get off as quick as I can.

Add me to the curmudgeon list then. With the exception of having my phone clipped to my front pants pocket. The phone rings (vibrates) so rarely that it always startles the hell out of me.

ANY phone is always used to convey a specific message in as short a period of time as possible unless it's long distance. Men can chat provided the person they're chatting with is at least 500 miles away. If another man calls you and just wants to 'chat', he's looking for a hand with something or he hasn't come out of the closet yet. In either case it's your obligation to get directly to the point. Ask him directly what he wants but tell that if he really just wants to chat, well, *sigh* there's nothing wrong with that.

:D
 
When I saw the new PC vs Mac commercial, with the PC guy coming out with boxing gloves on, I was hoping he'd beat the s*** out of the Mac guy. Just right there, on screen.

I also hate that iPhone commercial where the guy can't recall his girlfriend's boss' fiance's name. Message: I am stupid but because I have an iPhone no-one has found out (yet).

And I hate that new-ish verizon wireless ad where the guy is walking around the house handing out phones to everyone saying "you're my number one". Then he goes outside and "gives" himself a new phone and says "saving the best for numero uno". Even that doofus verizon network dude with the specs looks at the camera like "what a d***". Message: be a verizon customer and just be a selfish little p**** but no-one will notice because you've soaped them up with a new gadget.
 
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