IPA recipe help

[air9]

Whats up everyone. Looking for some help on an IPA recipe. Most of the older IPA recipes i found on here are bitter pine bombs, while the newer ones seem to be the murky NEIPA craze thats happening. Now while i do enjoy both styles, i'm looking for something in between. Looking to keep the ABV around or just under 7%.

Can anyone recommend a starting grain bill and hopping schedule. I have access to most grain and hops. I currently have some centennial and chinook (8oz+ each) i wouldn't mind using up. Do i need a 3rd or 4th hop to balance those out? Suggestions? Also have s04 and s05 on hand.

I mostly make pales and wheats, but never an IPA. I keg but no closed transfer. Looking to brew something tonight.


Thanks.

 

[ProblemChild]

Favorite format of mine that fits that:

85% Maris Otter
10% malted red wheat
5% carapils, or light crystal (I like carared)

Mash 148 - 150°F

Boil for 90 (not always a need, but helps with DMS for pale malts - just learned that recently the hard way)

30 IBU at 60 min. Apollo is my recent go to for this. Simcoe as well
20-30 IBU at 20 min with hops like Citra, Mosaic, Amarillo, El Dorado, Idaho7
10 IBU below 5 min.

Hopstand below 170°F for 20 min with 3-5 oz same hops at late boil
Dryhop 5 days from packaging with same 4-6 oz same hops

Yeast: any recommended IPA yeast. I like OYL-056, WY1318 as two examples

If doing water, I find that a Sulfate/Chloride of just under 4:1 matches my tastes best.

 

[Upthewazzu]

80% Pale
10% Munich 10
10% White Wheat

Mash @152 for 60 minutes

25IBU's bittering @ 60 (Magnum, Nugget, Warrior, etc)
1oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 10min
1oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 1min
2oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 170° whirlpool (optional)
2oz of Chinook & Centennial @ Dryhop

You could add something like Loral in there as well to get some nice lemon-pepper in the background to play with the pine, citrus, and floral from the chinook & centennial.

Ferment with 1056 or S-05 @68° for 2 weeks, then package.

EDIT: This actually sounds pretty good, I may do it myself, lol.

 

[rightthumbbc]

This is a recipe I tried out earlier this fall and was very pleased with (not mind blowing, but very good). I would definitely make it again, made for a very crushable IPA that the citrus and floral flavors came out well in.
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/503655/smoove-moves

 

[air9]

80% Pale
10% Munich 10
10% White Wheat

Mash @152 for 60 minutes

25IBU's bittering @ 60 (Magnum, Nugget, Warrior, etc)
1oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 10min
1oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 1min
2oz of Chinook & Centennial @ 170° whirlpool (optional)
2oz of Chinook & Centennial @ Dryhop

You could add something like Loral in there as well to get some nice lemon-pepper in the background to play with the pine, citrus, and floral from the chinook & centennial.

Ferment with 1056 or S-05 @68° for 2 weeks, then package.

EDIT: This actually sounds pretty good, I may do it myself, lol.

This one sounds great! I may move the whirlpool and dry hop around a bit, but i may try this one out. Never used loral and can't get it local. Any other ideas for a 3rd hop for late addition or dry hop? I have mosaic or ahtanum on hand that may work nicely.

Also, do i need any crystal in there? Even just a dash for come color or sweetness?

Thanks for the replies everyone.

 

[Upthewazzu]

This one sounds great! I may move the whirlpool and dry hop around a bit, but i may try this one out. Never used loral and can't get it local. Any other ideas for a 3rd hop for late addition or dry hop? I have mosaic or ahtanum on hand that may work nicely.

Also, do i need any crystal in there? Even just a dash for come color or sweetness?

Thanks for the replies everyone.

I'd avoid the ahtanum for sure (I've used it in two different recipes and both were not good as late kettle/dry hop additions), and I'm not sure Mosaic would play nice with the chinook & centennial. But, you could always toss an ounce of the mosaic in the dry hop and see where it goes!

I'd add no more than 2% crystal. It's definitely not required, but some folks still like it. I don't use any in my go-to house west coast IPA recipe.

 

[air9]

I'd avoid the ahtanum for sure (I've used it in two different recipes and both were not good as late kettle/dry hop additions), and I'm not sure Mosaic would play nice with the chinook & centennial. But, you could always toss an ounce of the mosaic in the dry hop and see where it goes!

I'd add no more than 2% crystal. It's definitely not required, but some folks still like it. I don't use any in my go-to house west coast IPA recipe.

I'll skip the crystal then. Maybe i'll try an oz of mosaic and see what happens. Might blend well with the pine and citrus from the other hops. Thanks for the help. I'll update later how the brew session goes.

 

[Yooper]

I like crystal in some of my IPAs. If you like centennial, but not big bitter bombs, why not do a Bell's Two Hearted clone? This one is really good (I've made it): https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/bells-two-hearted-ale-clone-close-as-they-come.91488/

 

[air9]

I like crystal in some of my IPAs. If you like centennial, but not big bitter bombs, why not do a Bell's Two Hearted clone? This one is really good (I've made it): https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/bells-two-hearted-ale-clone-close-as-they-come.91488/

Thanks @Yooper. Two hearted ale is tasty. I'll have to brew that clone soon.

So i brewed last night based off the recipe @Upthewazzu posted. Made some changes to the hops schedule a bit. Didn't have mosaic, but found some simcoe in my freezer. My OG came in a little lower, which i'm guessing is from my LHBS crushing my grains. Never used this much hops in a beer before. We'll see how it turns out i guess.


11# 2-row
1# Munich
1# White wheat

.5oz magnum @60
1oz chinook @10
1.5oz centennial @10
1oz chinook @ flameout
1.5oz centennial @ flameout
1oz simcoe @ flameout

Dry hop 1oz centennial and chinook on day 5.

Mashed at 152 for 60. 60 min boil. Safe-ale 05 fermented at 65.

OG was 1.065. IBU's should be around 58.

 

[Upthewazzu]

Simcoe + Centennial is a great hop combo, IMO. If you have another ounce laying around, I'd highly recommend adding it to your dry hops schedule along with the chinook and centennial.

 

[air9]

So i did end up dry hopping this with simcoe, centennial and chinook on day 3 during active fermentation. Its been in primary for 8 days. F.G is stable. Am i ok to package this thing for let it sit on the cake a bit longer? Wouldn't mind having this ready for Christmas but don't want off flavors to ruin it? Opinions welcomed.