Infected equipment

[mac_1103]

Acidifying a dilute bleach solution stabilizes the hypochlorite, so how does adding vinegar make it safe to not rinse?

 

[sampling6391]

I don't get this at all. I use dilute chlorine bleach all the time and have no trouble washing it out. Once diluted to working concentrations, it decomposes to salt and water pretty quickly. That's why it has to be made fresh to be effective.

I think it is just unnecessary with the availability of cleaners that do a better job of actually cleaning in my experience and are much easier to use and rinse out.

 

[mac_1103]

I think it is just unnecessary with the availability of cleaners that do a better job of actually cleaning in my experience and are much easier to use and rinse out.

Most cleaners are not disinfectants and most disinfectants are not cleaners. The topic of this thread is an infected keg, so clearly something more than cleaning is necessary.

 

[sampling6391]

Most cleaners are not disinfectants and most disinfectants are not cleaners. The topic of this thread is an infected keg, so clearly something more than cleaning is necessary.

Yes I agree, cleaning and sanitizing go hand in hand. Can’t sanitize something that isn’t clean.

 

[beren]

I think it is just unnecessary with the availability of cleaners that do a better job of actually cleaning in my experience and are much easier to use and rinse out.

That’s not how it works. The acidic bleach solution is one of the most effective sanitizers that exists and is also no rinse.

 

[sampling6391]

That’s not how it works. The acidic bleach solution is one of the most effective sanitizers that exists and is also no rinse.

I was also talking about there being better caustic cleaners out there than chlorine bleach. I would not recommend anyone mix acid and bleach it produces toxic gas

 

[DuncB]

That’s not how it works. The acidic bleach solution is one of the most effective sanitizers that exists and is also no rinse.

Having read this article I can see why.
https://www.healthline.com/health/bleach-and-vinegar#what-happens-when-vinegar-is-mixed-with-bleach
Mixing acid and bleach is chemical warfare it seems, so no surprise it's effective.

 

[hotbeer]

If you just spray your sanitizer on, well, then that's for you to decide whether the dilution of any possible remaining chlorine is good enough.

Bleach is most definitely NOT a no-rinse sanitizer.

I didn't think that I implied bleach is a no-rinse sanitizer. Maybe I should have been more clear about the sanitizer I referenced in the statement you quoted. That sanitizer is iodophor, star-san or any of the other no-rinse sanitizers we use normally in beer making as was referenced in the paragraph above that you didn't quote.

 

[mac_1103]

You did say "remaining chlorine" hence my confusion.