I'm Thinking... 09/09/09 Barleywine

[wildwest450]

Is using the table sugar a necessity? And where is everyone finding the Magnum hops?

 

[Chriso]

If you can't find Magnum, PM me and I can sell or trade for other varieties. I've got a little over 1/2 lb so I can help at least 3 or 4 people. (Edit: Filling up fast. Make that one or maybe two more people. )

http://www.brew365.com/hop_availability_chart.php
They say that Midwest and NB have them in pellet.

Galena is a great sub, too.

 

[BierMuncher]

Two weeks from brew day for me (9-1).

It's coming up fast...

 

[Mustangj]

I'm in 5.7gal.:rockin:

 

[Beerrific]

Don't know if it has been posted before in this thread, but if you are in the Atlanta area, a bunch of us are getting together to brew this on 9/6.

Here is the thread: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=71421

Join us if you can!

 

[BierMuncher]

Don't know if it has been posted before in this thread, but if you are in the Atlanta area, a bunch of us are getting together to brew this on 9/6.

Here is the thread: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=71421

Join us if you can!

I like the idea. Y'all should set up a live webcast...

 

[98EXL]

shoot...gotta find some monies before soon!

 

[xiang]

I brewed a smoked english style barleywine on 8-8-8. I followed Brewpastor's recipe minus a couple of substitutions. I used Marris Otter for the base grains. Smoked 3lbs of the M.O. with applewood. And used Willamette, Fuggle and E.K.G's for my hop additions.

I'm tempted to dryhop some E.K.G, fuggle or both during the secondary. Any input or thoughts on doing this?

 

[MNBugeater]

Brewing this on 9-6 partigyle style

First Barleywine
First Partigyle

I may up the grain bill about 3-4 lbs so I can hit 1.040+ on my 2nd runnings.
I'll stop 1st running at 1.110 if I have to, but I'm hoping for 1.115+ with a 90 min mash and decent efficiency.

I am also planning on moving to a secondary onto oak after 8 weeks and let sit for 4 months. Keg, Chill, Bottle, Ship.

Damn I am super-excited to brew this beer...My brother in law loves Barleywine. If this turns out it will be his Christmas gift.

 

[leghorn]

Just a few more days for me before the process begins. I finally got the last fitting for my mini-mash; I'm going do my first mini-mash this weekend with Dude's Lakewalk Pale Ale to break in the system and work out the kinks, then on to my second mini-mash, first Barleywine with this recipe. Nice thing is I can pitch it right onto the Pale Ale yeast cake.

I love it when a plan comes together.

 

[wildwest450]

Is notties or 05 the preferred dry yeast for this brew? Im assuming 05 because it's the dry version of 1056.

 

[mmb]

Is notties or 05 the preferred dry yeast for this brew? Im assuming 05 because it's the dry version of 1056.

I'm planning on using a 05 cake from an Blond Ale for this, FWIW.

 

[CBBaron]

I'm planning on using a 05 cake from an Blond Ale for this, FWIW.

Got a Scottish Ale with US-05 yeast in the fermenter now. I intend to put the 09-09-09 on top of it if all goes well.
If not then a couple packets of US-05 is still pretty cheap for this brew.

Craig

 

[Hagen]

I got mine brewed up tonight, but not all went as planned. I eyeballed the boil and started my hop schedule too early. As a result, I ended uo with close to 4 gallons instead of 3.5. The OG ended up at 1.112. I threw the corrected volume and OG into beersmith and got 93.1 IBU and 18.3*L for color.

It's not incredibly far off, but not spot on. I will flog myself with the mash paddle to atone.

 

[eddie]

What the heck, count me in. I've been wanting to brew a BW anyway.

 

[IrregularPulse]

What the heck, count me in. I've been wanting to brew a BW anyway.

PM BierMuncher to officially get added to the list.

 

[eddie]

Already done. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[conpewter]

Brewed mine yesterday. I ran into quite a few issues but I did end up with beer in the fermenters so that is good I probably should not have gone for the parti-gyle since that added so much trouble having two brew pots going at the same time etc. Plus I was trying a new wort-chilling system (which sucked) so I'll be setting up ice-water recirculation at some point.

Anyway got about ~4 gallons of BarleyWine and 2.5 gallons of the smaller beer (should have been 4 gal.... siphon/hop issues).

I forgot to add the candi sugar during the boil, so I'm planning on doing that as a "feeding" sort of addition in a couple days. How do you all normally add it for incremental feedings? (I have 1 lb for the BW and .5 lb for the other beer)

Without the sugar I ended up with 1.106 BW and a 1.065 smaller beer.

The sugar should get me to right around 1.117 or so

 

[wildwest450]

I was planning not to add the sugar, according to beersmith I should be at 1.113 without adding it. Will this affect the flavor? I thought sugar was just to raise abv.

 

[mmb]

I was planning not to add the sugar, according to beersmith I should be at 1.113 without adding it. Will this affect the flavor? I thought sugar was just to raise abv.

AFAIK, the sugar also helps to make the finished product a little drier because it is so easily fermentable by the yeast.

 

[FSR402]

The recipe calls for "table sugar", I not being one for adding sugar to my beers am assuming that "table sugar" would be the same as corn sugar that most of us use for bottling. Is this true or false?

 

[DeathBrewer]

nope. table sugar is made from sugarcane, corn sugar from corn.

why would you use corn sugar and not table sugar? corn sugar tastes terrible.

not that you will get much flavor from this at all, it's almost completely fermentable and is meant only to dry the beer out a bit.

 

[conpewter]

Table sugar is sucrose and is OK to add as a small percentage to big beers like this (ask the Belgians). You could add dextrose instead if you liked, it really won't make much of a difference either way. I am going with candi sugar but that actually might add a little more complexity due to the caramelizing of some of the sugar.

 

[mmb]

The recipe calls for "table sugar", I not being one for adding sugar to my beers am assuming that "table sugar" would be the same as corn sugar that most of us use for bottling. Is this true or false?

Corn sugar is different from table sugar. You can use either.

Corn sugar is dextrose made from cornstarch. Table sugar is sucrose and is made from sugar cane or sugar beets.

 

[FSR402]

I will have to look at what I have. I thought I had corn sugar but maybe I'm an idiot and am getting them confused.

 

[Jamo99]

I will have to look at what I have. I thought I had corn sugar but maybe I'm an idiot and am getting them confused.

You won't be able to tell the difference in the taste if you use one or the other. Other than the corn sugar being more expensive.

 

[Ridemywideglide]

All my ingredients will be here tomorrow, I'm hoping to brew this weekend, but there's a bike rally that's on the schedule as well. We'll see. :fro:

Questions.. First AG here..

My pot is only ~6.5g, is there any issue with boiling my first 6.5 down and adding the rest of the collected as it boils off? I realize this will add to my boil time but I'm not going to be getting my bigger pot for a few more weeks.
I have 2 pots actually, 6.5 and a 5.5 so I can keep heat on the rest while evap happens. If only I could add them together.

I scoured google and found some brew-notes template sheets. I think with these I'll be set. I'm shooting for no Oops's in this batch..

 

[FSR402]

All my ingredients will be here tomorrow, I'm hoping to brew this weekend, but there's a bike rally that's on the schedule as well. We'll see. :fro:

Questions.. First AG here..

My pot is only ~6.5g, is there any issue with boiling my first 6.5 down and adding the rest of the collected as it boils off? I realize this will add to my boil time but I'm not going to be getting my bigger pot for a few more weeks.
I have 2 pots actually, 6.5 and a 5.5 so I can keep heat on the rest while evap happens. If only I could add them together.

I scoured google and found some brew-notes template sheets. I think with these I'll be set. I'm shooting for no Oops's in this batch..

You can do that but it's going to be a big pain in the azz. Each time you add more wort it's going to knock it out of a boil.

How much wort are you planning to get preboil?

 

[FSR402]

Ok I just looked at what I have in stock is 12 pounds of corn sugar. I use it for making Apfelwein. Thought that was what I was going to use for this but I guess I'll get some table sugar when I pick up the rest of my grains next week.

 

[Ridemywideglide]

You can do that but it's going to be a big pain in the azz. Each time you add more wort it's going to knock it out of a boil.

How much wort are you planning to get preboil?

According to BS, about 10.2 gallons. BTP shows 10.8

Either way, yes it will be a PITA. But I can have the non-boil pot pretty close to temp so it should be able to recover quickly.
I suppose I could even boil both for a while...