I'm Thinking... 09/09/09 Barleywine

[the_bird]

The bird's smoked variant sounds interesting, too.

Kinda thinking in the vein of a new 666-type recipe.

The wife has given me *permission* to buy my father's-day present (smoker) ahead of time, so I might be brewing up something in this vein ahead of time... got a full sack of pilsner malt and a lot of different hops kicking around...

 

[Arneba28]

I really like the smoked BW idea. little bit of smokey roastyness in it would be great I think. And the good thing about a September brew is that some of our hop harvests might just be ready depending on your location.

 

[BierMuncher]

My initial inspiration for the idea was after seeing the Pastor's recipe . Tis an American BW.

Maybe we lean on this HBT recipe as the cornerstone and allow variations at the individual brewers will...

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Hrmm I think Im going to do my BW experiment for this...

 

[blacklab]

2.00 oz. Chinook Pellet 13.00 74.3 60 min.
1.33 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 20.8 20 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Hmmm...thinkin about mixing up the hop sked a bit from BP's and making it West Coast Barleywine with some Centennial and Cascade. Or, maybe tryin' to figure out what they use in Gnarly Wine-it's described as 'piney'.

 

[EAC]

I am in, but have a concern that if we go with the equation of 9 we will be making a BW on the small end of the spectrum. I suppose we could go for a 1.099 OG with 99 IBUs, but maybe this is the 10/10/10 style, which we can always make way ahead of time.

The 9/9/9 may be better lived out as a different style. I still like the blond dopplebock myself. But will brew with the crowd and help with the recipe. Water into Barleywine is a nice starting place but I have some suggested changes if the forum is interested.

 

[olllllo]

I am in, but have a concern that if we go with the equation of 9 we will be making a BW on the small end of the spectrum. I suppose we could go for a 1.099 OG with 99 IBUs, but maybe this is the 10/10/10 style, which we can always make way ahead of time.

The 9/9/9 may be better lived out as a different style. I still like the blond dopplebock myself. But will brew with the crowd and help with the recipe. Water into Barleywine is a nice starting place but I have some suggested changes if the forum is interested.

This is the point where several confused people should exclaim... Aha!

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

I knew the dopplebock idea would come back around Personally I was kinda looking foward to doing it as my first lager.

I do agree with EAC about maybe making the barley wine for 10/10/10, or even 11/11/11, and saving a big honking tripel for 12/12/12

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Kinda thinking in the vein of a new 666-type recipe.

The wife has given me *permission* to buy my father's-day present (smoker) ahead of time, so I might be brewing up something in this vein ahead of time... got a full sack of pilsner malt and a lot of different hops kicking around...

Time to put that smoker to unintended uses!

I like the idea of a hoppy smoked BW with a hefty amount of rye. Not to style, and properly American.

 

[CBBaron]

2.00 oz. Chinook Pellet 13.00 74.3 60 min.
1.33 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 20.8 20 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 9.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Hmmm...thinkin about mixing up the hop sked a bit from BP's and making it West Coast Barleywine with some Centennial and Cascade. Or, maybe tryin' to figure out what they use in Gnarly Wine-it's described as 'piney'.

Mention of Centennial, Cascades and fresh hops has me thinking about my plot.
I have a Chinnok, Centennial and Cascades plant growing like gang busters right now. All second year rhizomes so I should have a good crop. With an American style Barleywine I could drop a good chunk of my harvest into this beer fresh from the vine. Saves me the effort of drying.

As for the problem of fitting it in with 9's. Surely we can figure out something. 1.099 would be a decent place to start. I suppose a good 1.120 would be even better but I'm not going to wait that long for my first Barleywine.

Dopplebocks sound good but I won't be making one. I don't have or need temp control for my ales and I don't have enough interest in lagers to justify investing in one.

Craig

 

[the_bird]

Time to put that smoker to unintended uses!

I like the idea of a hoppy smoked BW with a hefty amount of rye. Not to style, and properly American.

Oh, that's a fully intended use, and she knows it! I might actually pick it up tonight (I'd love to smoke something nice this weekend, the weather's been SO goregous). I then need to get my hands on some good smoking woods, stuff other than hickory and mesquite.

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

quick Q:

I knew about the 7-7-7IPA and have done the 8-8-8RIS, but didn't know there was a 6-6-6brew. does someone have a link for that, a search pulled up some "make fun of 666" type threads and Dudes brewday. I didnt know if a recipie was burried in there somewhere.....

perhaps a thread with all the official "number brews" (locked to keep it from getting cluttered up, or only so mods can add the new recipies to it as they come up) would be in one place for easy reference.

just an idea...

 

[Mutilated1]

I'm not even sure I like Barley Wine, but after reading Brew Pastors recipe I'm intrigued. I think I will brew a Pacific style pale ale this weekend so I have a nice big yeast cake to put Brew Pastor's recipe on and play in the swap this time if you guys don't mind.

 

[Brewpastor]

Shout "American Homebrewers Association?"

I say stick with the dopplebock and save the barleywine for that big date up ahead. Yopper sent me a bottle of Capital Brewing's Blonde DB and it got my designing mind churning.

But you all decide, what will it be this year my friends? I think we can do better then Water into Barleywine if we go the ABW route.

 

[ShortSnoutBrewing]

Count me in for a BW, whenever it's done. Maybe it will light a fire under my a$$ to get the keggle done.

 

[CBBaron]

I say stick with the dopplebock and save the barleywine for that big date up ahead. Yopper sent me a bottle of Capital Brewing's Blonde DB and it got my designing mind churning.

But you all decide, what will it be this year my friends? I think we can do better then Water into Barleywine if we go the ABW route.

I think Brewpastor is right, an ABW would be an excellent style for 12/12/12 to finish out the series. So what to do for the next 3 years?

If the pastor is already working on a Dopplebock for 9/9/09 then I think that is a good way to go. I won't be joining in that swap as I stated above but the beer sounds good.

Craig

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

My vote is for the following:

9/9/09 - Dopplebock
10/10/10 - Strong Scotch Ale
11/11/11 - Barleywine
12/12/12 - Belgian Trippel

 

[the_bird]

Whichever way, doesn't matter to me. I'm thinking about doing a smoked barleywine regardless (got a cake of US-05, now that I think about it....)

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

Whichever way, doesn't matter to me. I'm thinking about doing a smoked barleywine regardless (got a cake of US-05, now that I think about it....)

Well fine bird, you do what you want and not brew with the group......

No, I was just throwing out my $0.02 worth. I personaly think if we do a barleywine, might as well do it BIG ie. the '11 or even '12 brew. If we want to go ahead and come up with a recipie for tat and brew it 2-3 years in advance and let it age, I would be up for that fo' sho'.

As mentioned in the other 9-9-9 thread, it might be easier to do a tripel for '12 so we can use the extra sugars to help get up to the 1.120 gravity.

I threw in the Strong scotch ale because, well it sounded good, and sticking it in as the '10 brew with an OG of 1.100 just sounded like the right thing to do. If someone has a better idea for that, please share.

 

[Brewsmith]

I think I'm leaning toward the Blonde Doppelbock, but I'd do the Barleywine just as well. It will be more of a change from the 8/8/8 recipe and we could really do up the 10/10/10 with the BW. I'm going to play Switzerland on this one and let you guys hash it out.

 

[blacklab]

This is the point where several confused people should exclaim... Aha!

Aha!


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[Brewpastor]

I think I'm leaning toward the Blonde Doppelbock, but I'd do the Barleywine just as well. It will be more of a change from the 8/8/8 recipe and we could really do up the 10/10/10 with the BW. I'm going to play Switzerland on this one and let you guys hash it out.

Nice pigtails Heidi...

 

[blacklab]

I am in, but have a concern that if we go with the equation of 9 we will be making a BW on the small end of the spectrum. I suppose we could go for a 1.099 OG with 99 IBUs, but maybe this is the 10/10/10 style, which we can always make way ahead of time.

The 9/9/9 may be better lived out as a different style. I still like the blond dopplebock myself. But will brew with the crowd and help with the recipe. Water into Barleywine is a nice starting place but I have some suggested changes if the forum is interested.

Hey EAC, I am wondering what your opinion is on changing up the hop schedule from that 'other' Barleywine recipe to Centennial and Cascade?

I have never made a BW before and you seem to have some experience.

 

[EAC]

The big Cs make great ABW hops. That American hop flavor goes really well with the higher gravity and the rich malty tones. I do think they can accent the sweetness of the beer and so that should be considered in the recipe, like dropping the mash temp and the fermentation temp, not going over board on the crystal malt, things like that. I would love to use a bunch of Centennials and Cascades in a big ABW, if they can be had at a reasonable cost.

 

[BierMuncher]

I am in, but have a concern that if we go with the equation of 9 we will be making a BW on the small end of the spectrum. I suppose we could go for a 1.099 OG with 99 IBUs, but maybe this is the 10/10/10 style, which we can always make way ahead of time.

The 9/9/9 may be better lived out as a different style. I still like the blond dopplebock myself. But will brew with the crowd and help with the recipe. Water into Barleywine is a nice starting place but I have some suggested changes if the forum is interested.

I was thinking 1.109 with a 99 IBU.

I started with Barleywine because of it's relative straight forward recipe.
An ale recipe will include more people who don't have lagering capacity.
And of course....9-9-9 Barleywine had a nice ring to it...

 

[PseudoChef]

I think making it a lager excludes a bunch of people. Just my .012001 Kronor.

 

[BierMuncher]

A few thoughts:

• Seems there are around 15 (ish) who are already verbally "in" for a 9-9-9 Barleywine, just in the first 48 hours.
• Seems there are also small handful who already have a BW on deck and this would work into their schedule.
• Sounds like a fair number of those who are in would perhaps fall out if we turned this into a lager.
• The one year thing from grain to glass, seems to be kind of accepted/recommended for a barley wine....I'm not sure if the same is true (cuz I don't know) about a dopplebock.
• Seems people have some druthers on their own recipe which would be great, but maybe we offer up a default recipe for those first time BW brewers (like yours truly).

(Pastor...would you be willing to take on the task of coming up with a recipe...be it the "W to B" or another version you prefer?

 

[the_bird]

I'll brew whatever the group/Good Pastor decided on (I'll probably end up doing a couple of beers, I'm really liking the idea of the smoked barleywine do I'll do that for giggles myself).

 

[MikeFlynn74]

The only thing I dont like is the stupid long ass wait for the beer to mature. I wish I had a 5 gallon oak barrel to age it in!

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

y'all are right, a lager would exclude a lot of people, (realisticaly probably me as well, but I probably still would have tried ) My oppinion on the barleywine to wait till a future year went along with EAC's sugestion that the OG, while still high, could be done bigger.

I like Biermunchers idea of shooting for a 1.109 gravity, but is it acceptable for that purist numbers brew?:cross: Regardless of what we pick, I think an official recipie for 9-9-9 should be tossed out there.

Other sugestions for 9-9-9 brews in other threads include a tripel (3 x 3 = 9, plus there is a recipie out there by beersmith if I remember right) a miebock or oktoberfest (I know back to lagers) and the orriginal dopplebock thread (back to that old thing as well:cross: )