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[LouisvilleBrews]

The majority of the responsibility for the lack of craft beer on your grocery store shelves lies with you, because you choose to live in Louisville. I have at least 100 craft beers to choose from and that's just at the major grocers. Many of them are brewed within 100 miles of me. Sure there's BMC there, but only the rednecks drink that.
However, if you want to swig bourbon and watch the horses you're set. Don't go to Paris and complain because you can't find good barbeque. Don't go to Kansas City and bitch because you can't get a great baguette.
The BMC drinkers might not understand your upper echelon beverages, but I can guarantee you they aren't bitching about them.

Really? we have several great breweries here in town, and certain stores that have an enormous craft beer selection, but unless you go to a specialty grocer or liquor store, your options are BMC or maybe a corona. And there are numerous complicated reasons for this.
Are you suggesting that if someone is born in an area without a lot of craft beer options they should just move to Michigan or California instead of fighting for more accessible options where they live? Um ok.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

You can tell a lot about someone if they are trolling around and bumping a two month old thread just to stir up trouble. They are the kind of people who will not stay welcome in this forum for long. Our ability to distinguish between quality posts, whether it be thoughtful or otherwise, speaks a lot about who are are.

- Yooper The Moderator

In case you haven't figured it out, stop trolling and being a jerk if you want to stay welcome in the forum, new member or not.

so giving a strong opinion about a topic makes me unwelcome and is stirring up trouble, but personal jabs and namecalling is cool? Apparently this forum is a lot more lame than I thought.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

Really? we have several great breweries here in town, and certain stores that have an enormous craft beer selection, but unless you go to a specialty grocer or liquor store, your options are BMC or maybe a corona. And there are numerous complicated reasons for this.
Are you suggesting that if someone is born in an area without a lot of craft beer options they should just move to Michigan or California instead of fighting for more accessible options where they live? Um ok.

So I guess insulting someone's city and local culture isn't in the 'unwelcome' category either? you guys are really sensible.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

But if I start using the forum lingo and call people 'eac' and 'troll' then I can insult people personally or maybe even give an opinion. Ah, ok. Sounds like middle school, mr ring leader.

 

[Airborneguy]

so giving a strong opinion about a topic makes me unwelcome and is stirring up trouble, but personal jabs and namecalling is cool? Apparently this forum is a lot more lame than I thought.

Buh Bye then.

 

[unionrdr]

I've caught myself taking a post the wrong way. I tend to forget the sign mom used to have by the kitchen wall phone; be sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear! Always makes me smile in spite of myself. Although there are "trolls" around the forums,there are times when an abstract idea is attempted to be expressed. It just doesn't come out in the right words. I'm sure we've all done that...

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

The majority of the responsibility for the lack of craft beer on your grocery store shelves lies with you, because you choose to live in Louisville. I have at least 100 craft beers to choose from and that's just at the major grocers. Many of them are brewed within 100 miles of me. Sure there's BMC there, but only the rednecks drink that.
However, if you want to swig bourbon and watch the horses you're set. Don't go to Paris and complain because you can't find good barbeque. Don't go to Kansas City and bitch because you can't get a great baguette.
The BMC drinkers might not understand your upper echelon beverages, but I can guarantee you they aren't bitching about them.

you're right that they're not bitching about it, because their product is accessible in every gas station, unlike craft beer. Why would they?

 

[bottlebomber]

The majority of the responsibility for the lack of craft beer on my grocery store shelf lies with the American consumer.

Really? we have several great breweries here in town, and certain stores that have an enormous craft beer selection

So do you got thr brews or do you not got the brews?

so giving a strong opinion about a topic makes me unwelcome and is stirring up trouble, but personal jabs and namecalling is cool? Apparently this forum is a lot more lame than I thought.

Ya you know, you're right. It is lame here... you should leave now.

 

[Yooper]

But if I start using the forum lingo and call people 'eac' and 'troll' then I can insult people personally or maybe even give an opinion. Ah, ok. Sounds like middle school, mr ring leader.

You know what? You don't even know what they mean by EAC. And a troll is defined as: Troll: A person who posts a deliberately provocative message to the forum with the intention of causing disruption and/or argument with or without contributing to the content of the thread. Your first post in this thread (which was deleted by me) indeed fit the definition of "troll".

Please read our forum rules: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq#faq_rules_regulations

If you are here to argue, insult, curse, and the like, you'd be much happier somewhere else. Since our forum is "lame" anyway to you, and you have no respect for your fellow members, I'm sure that we'd be happier as well.

 

[bottlebomber]

I'm kind of suspicious of if he even brews, or has any real interest in learning to...

 

[CarlLBC]

I love corona!! Corona Familiar anyways, the 32 oz bottle doesn't hurt either. I plan on using them for bottling session beers. less to sanitize.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

You know what? You don't even know what they mean by EAC. And a troll is defined as: Troll: A person who posts a deliberately provocative message to the forum with the intention of causing disruption and/or argument with or without contributing to the content of the thread. Your first post in this thread (which was deleted by me) indeed fit the definition of "troll".

Please read our forum rules: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq#faq_rules_regulations

If you are here to argue, insult, curse, and the like, you'd be much happier somewhere else. Since our forum is "lame" anyway to you, and you have no respect for your fellow members, I'm sure that we'd be happier as well.

my initial post insulted AB-Inbev, but I wouldn't think that would be offensive. And I indeed added to the content of the thread. These same issues were already being discussed. I have been much more respectful than the 'regulars' or 'non-noobs' have been to me. I am not the one name calling here, sir.

 

[Yooper]

my initial post insulted AB-Inbev, but I wouldn't think that would be offensive. And I indeed added to the content of the thread. These same issues were already being discussed. I have been much more respectful than the 'regulars' or 'non-noobs' have been to me. I am not the one name calling here, sir.

You are NOT adding any meaningful content to this thread. You're coming across as arrogant, argumentative, demeaning, and spoiling for fight.

I've asked you to refrain. You have a total of 17 posts, about 14 of them in this thread. The first three were just to bump an old thread. And you must have memory problems if you think you didn't use obscenities in the first post. It didn't insult InBev all that much- it was an insult to people who admit they've enjoyed a product. You posted three times in a row, to start an argument! READ your own posts: "Don't give me any crap about me being a noob!" is how you started a post!

That is enough. I don't know how to say it any plainer. We will NOT argue this further.

 

[CarlLBC]

I like corona!!:rockin:

 

[unionrdr]

Corona's ok,but this little Mexican restaurant up on rt254 serves Tacateh with a lime wedge in the top of the bottle. I think it tastes a bit better,especially with Mexican food. This was a small Chi-Chi's that a Mexican couple took over. Good stuff,man.

 

[Pdeezy]

The majority of the responsibility for the lack of craft beer on your grocery store shelves lies with you, because you choose to live in Louisville. I have at least 100 craft beers to choose from and that's just at the major grocers. Many of them are brewed within 100 miles of me. Sure there's BMC there, but only the rednecks drink that.
However, if you want to swig bourbon and watch the horses you're set. Don't go to Paris and complain because you can't find good barbeque. Don't go to Kansas City and bitch because you can't get a great baguette.
The BMC drinkers might not understand your upper echelon beverages, but I can guarantee you they aren't bitching about them.

Lol, is this serious? I hope not. That is just pompous.

 

[CarlLBC]

Corona's ok,but this little Mexican restaurant up on rt254 serves Tacateh with a lime wedge in the top of the bottle. I think it tastes a bit better,especially with Mexican food. This was a small Chi-Chi's that a Mexican couple took over. Good stuff,man.

Have you tried the corona familiar? much more flavor then the extra. problem is they only sell them in the big 32oz brown bottles. wish they sold them in smaller bottles. I just put one of those silicone beersavers on and stick it back in the fridge. It keeps the carbonation good till I get another glass.

 

[unionrdr]

I don't think I've seen that one yet. Maybe have to try the new beverage store in the drug mart plaza on 301 & 254...?

 

[bottlebomber]

I love corona!! Corona Familiar anyways, the 32 oz bottle doesn't hurt either. I plan on using them for bottling session beers. less to sanitize.

Is that the one in the brown bottle? I had one recently, and it actually wasn't terrible. I'm blaming it on the brown bottle

Lol, is this serious? I hope not. That is just pompous.

Was it really? What part?

EDIT: and I wasn't saying that to be argumentative either. I live in a place where there is a huge local craft food movement. Some of the breweries everyone raves about on here - Russian River, North Coast, Eel River, Boonville Brewing, are literally on my front door step. I can get locally made artisanal goat cheese at the mini-mart.

My point being, where you choose to locate yourself has a lot to do with what you have available. I have friends in Sayre, OK that can't even get a latte.

 

[Pdeezy]

I still can't tell if you're joking or not, but...

The part in which you told someone they are (mainly) responsible for not having access to craft beers in their chain stores because they live in Louisville - WTF? . You then go on to describe how awesome it is where you live because there are craft beers available everywhere.

The reason craft beers aren't available in grocery stores in some areas of this country is because the distributors pockets are lined with BMC cash, and most of the people that decide which beers go where on the shelves work for BMC. I just think the statement should have been more along the lines of - I wish every area in the US was as opened to distibuting craft beers as where I live, and so we should work to improve the way things are. Not - if you can't get any decent beer move to CA.

I am almost positive you were kidding now...but there's my opinion in the off chance that you weren't - Lol.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

I still can't tell if you're joking or not, but...

The part in which you told someone they are (mainly) responsible for not having access to craft beers in their chain stores because they live in Louisville - WTF? . You then go on to describe how awesome it is where you live because there are craft beers available everywhere.

The reason craft beers aren't available in grocery stores in some areas of this country is because the distributors pockets are lined with BMC cash, and most of the people that decide which beers go where on the shelves work for BMC. I just think the statement should have been more along the lines of - I wish every area in the US was as opened to distibuting craft beers as where I live, and so we should work to improve the way things are. Not - if you can't get any decent beer move to CA.

I am almost positive you were kidding now...but there's my opinion in the off chance that you weren't - Lol.

good points. I was wondering about the seriousness of that as well.

 

[bottlebomber]

I'd love to sit here and indulge myself in debating with you guys your conspiracy theory that the only reason your grocers don't carry a stunning array of craft beer is because the distributors are bribed... I'm not totally sure its allowed here. We have a special forum here for that which actual paid members can participate in.

The truth of the matter is that the grocers are there to support the habits of whatever socio-demographic they are situated in. I'm willing to bet if you can't get great beer there are a lot of other things you can't get as well. Believe me, if there was a real thirst for this beer that you are complaining you can't get, it would be there. The grocers aren't tied up in BMC bribery rings, they are there to support the needs of the customer. If it was any other way, the customers would be flocking to the one store that sold the good beer. I have ruled out the possibility that your local grocery chains are run like Sicilian crime families, if this is the case please correct me.

 

[Airborneguy]

I have ruled out the possibility that your local grocery chains are run like Sicilian crime families, if this is the case please correct me.

Some of my local grocery stores are run BY Sicilian crime families!

 

[Pdeezy]

I didn't mean to insinuate that they were bribed - bad choice of words on my part. I meant that if you are a distributor, and 99% of your income comes from BMC then you aren't going to care if craft beer makes it on to your trucks.

I can get decent beer where I live, but I have to go to a beer store or bottle shop because most chain stores have thousands of other products to worry about, and therefore don't pay too much attention to complaints about their beer selection. However, when I go to the guy at my local beer store and ask for a beer he usually orders it within a week.

I wasn't trying to get into a debate with you. I just had a problem with you saying it was his fault because of where he lives. It's a little weird to assume that someone would completey uproot their lives and move to CA for a better selection of beer.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

I'd love to sit here and indulge myself in debating with you guys your conspiracy theory that the only reason your grocers don't carry a stunning array of craft beer is because the distributors are bribed... I'm not totally sure its allowed here. We have a special forum here for that which actual paid members can participate in.

The truth of the matter is that the grocers are there to support the habits of whatever socio-demographic they are situated in. I'm willing to bet if you can't get great beer there are a lot of other things you can't get as well. Believe me, if there was a real thirst for this beer that you are complaining you can't get, it would be there. The grocers aren't tied up in BMC bribery rings, they are there to support the needs of the customer. If it was any other way, the customers would be flocking to the one store that sold the good beer. I have ruled out the possibility that your local grocery chains are run like Sicilian crime families, if this is the case please correct me.

At risk of getting blocked (because I'm picking up on the fact that fully participating in a conversation and posting too much is a blockable offense here according to the moderator) I would like to clarify that you're correct about most LOCAL grocers. And despite the sometimes necessary higher prices, they are truly the best option. However I don't see much of a reason that we shouldn't have options at national chains as well. And the coercion is less like the Siscilian mobs and more like sleazy lobbyists and well paid lawyers the little guy can't afford. AB and the whole lot of them do in fact take legal steps to stifle the business of small breweries. I work in law firm and have seen motions filed by the boogie man himself. Check out some of the state and local regulations that cater specifically to macro lager companies. It's not a myth, and if saying so in a polite and respectful manner in this post gets me banned, then this forum wouldn't be worth a membership if it was 2 cents.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

I didn't mean to insinuate that they were bribed - bad choice of words on my part. I meant that if you are a distributor, and 99% of your income comes from BMC then you aren't going to care if craft beer makes it on to your trucks.

I can get decent beer where I live, but I have to go to a beer store or bottle shop because most chain stores have thousands of other products to worry about, and therefore don't pay too much attention to complaints about their beer selection. However, when I go to the guy at my local beer store and ask for a beer he usually orders it within a week.

I wasn't trying to get into a debate with you. I just had a problem with you saying it was his fault because of where he lives. It's a little weird to assume that someone would completey uproot their lives and move to CA for a better selection of beer.

well stated

 

[bottlebomber]

Yeah it's a little too debatey...

There are things I can't get here as well. I am a serious shooting hobbyist, and yet I have extremely limited options when it comes to what firearms I can own. If this was top of my agenda, I'd move to Nevada or Arizona. It's not top of my agenda, and the benefits of living where I do greatly outweigh the cons, so I stay. But you won't catch me bitching about it on an online forum, that's for sure.

I have a brilliant idea. If Louisville isn't satisfied with his beer options, he can learn to brew his own.

 

[Pdeezy]

I have a brilliant idea. If Louisville isn't satisfied with his beer options, he can learn to brew his own.

Oh ya...I almost forgot what we were doing here.

 

[LouisvilleBrews]

Yeah it's a little too debatey...

There are things I can't get here as well. I am a serious shooting hobbyist, and yet I have extremely limited options when it comes to what firearms I can own. If this was top of my agenda, I'd move to Nevada or Arizona. It's not top of my agenda, and the benefits of living where I do greatly outweigh the cons, so I stay. But you won't catch me bitching about it on an online forum, that's for sure.

I have a brilliant idea. If Louisville isn't satisfied with his beer options, he can learn to brew his own.

Chill out a little bit man, it seems like you're complaining that I 'bitched' on all of your responses. I'm trying to have an adult conversation about it but oh well, I'm dropping it because that doesn't seem possible.
And I do brew my own beer, although my beers aren't quite as good yet as some of my favorite craft options. I'm working towards it.

 

[unionrdr]

As are we all. I'm kinda lucky these days,as giant eagle & a couple other places are carrying more craft beer,& getting more here & there. Not cheap,however. But dang it's nice to have some options when I can afford it. If not for this sort of beer Renaissance,My choice of home brew recipes might well be narrower.
But you know what? We've been getting tight on cash lately,what with trying to make sure I keep the money for the body shop ready. So we got some cheap lager/pilsner to go with some vodka (the airlocks can bloody wait). Went down easy...kind of a nice change once in a while.
Not just for red necks anymore.
Got me to remembering a lady friend at work that collects things. She showed me her "trailer trash" Barbie,& "biker Ken" dolls. That was a hoot. All they needed was some little empty BMC cans to toss around Barbie's trailer. The Barbie vette up on lil cinder blocks...