I like this time at night on HBT

[brewingmeister]

Throw a bag of Halloween candy at your kids and send them across the street.

 

[passedpawn]

If you really want your kids to have someone to play with ("The Goal"), you'll swallow your pride, stay calm, and ask the guy why he made this decision. If possible, make him understand his fears were unfounded.

99% chance he's a super-a-hole. But in order for you to accomplish The Goal, you have to eat it. That means nodding agreeably, not counterattacking, not making your own point at all. If you can do that, maybe your kids win. If you can't, they lose, but you'll feel better. So, it's probably up to you. Without exception, level heads prevail.

If you eat it, you should know that a-holes do get their comeuppance. Life is hard for the a-hole. You don't have to teach him that, he's already living it.

Just reaching out to the masses here but I was hoping to get some opinions from you all. My two sons just told my wife today that they were told by the neighbor across the street's dad that they are not allowed to play with his kids anymore. So my wife, taking the boy's story (they said they didn't know why) with a grain of salt, decided to go and talk to him. Keep in mind they only moved in a few months ago and neither of us is very social so we have never really been introduced but the kids are only ever allowed to play in their front yard where we can supervise from just about anywhere outside or through any window in our house. So she knocked on the door and the dad answers so she introduces herself and lets the guy know who her kids are. After this he quickly responded with, "Oh so they DO have parents! I just assumed you didn't exist." After this she bit her tongue which is a lot calmer than I would have been considering we live not even 100 ft away but he wouldn't give her any specifics on what prompted this sudden decision.

This is really eating at me because they are the only kids in the neighborhood currently so now my kids have no one else to play with unless we set up play dates with our friends and their kids which is surprisingly hard to do.

What am I to do? Do I go and talk to him now and let him know that he offended my wife with his jack assery or do I just leave it and just tell my kids to stay away? What would you guys do?

 

[sfgoat]

Life is hard for the a-hole. You don't have to teach him that, he's already living it.

Wise words my friend.

 

[lumpher]

i'd go over and talk to him, also. but keep an eye on everything; i suspect he's not a nice, peaceful guy when beer starts flowing

 

[Dan]

Something Wong . Maybe my anger. Your neighbor sounds insecure, maybe his wife is and any man that is married to an insecure wife knows how tough she can make life, therefor his actions. Maybe the guy is just a true jerk.

I'd keep the kids clear of the neighbor's place until all is settled. Sounds like him and his wife might be confrontational, or super protective of their kids. Maybe he's in the witness protection program

No matter what, sounds like the kids are going to have to wait. Adults need get along first, though sometimes kids remind us of that.

My pennies [emoji3]

 

[DrunkleJon]

It may not hurt to talk with your kids to find out more of what may have caused the banishment to start. Then if things still seem weird I would stop by, offer him a goodwill/introductory/nicetameetcha beer and just make your own impressions of the guy. He may have issues, something may have gone on that their kids blamed on yours, etc. Sounds like he is kinda a jerk but since you have only been there a couple months, it never hurts to make nice with the neighbors. Having a nice discussion with the guy and offering and reinforcing that if there really is a problem with your kids to please let you know because you are approachable and not dirt bags really can help neighborly relations. Who knows? Your pimp kid may have been caught playing doctor with his daughter.

 

[nutty_gnome]

The neighbors may be feeling that you are dumping you kids on them if they play at the he neighbors house more often than at your house. In that light the comment neighbor dad made makes sense. Fixing it means arranging playdates at your house with those neighbor kids. Also some parents don't consider 'visible through a random window' to be effective adult supervision. Some folks require more active parenting. Good luck!

 

[sfgoat]

So we have never seen the parents before my wife went over. I still have never seen either of them. My wife says that the dad was very much a "diva" . I have invited his kids to play in our yard several times as my boys have a clubhouse and a nice playset but I guess they aren't allowed to leave their yard but for a minute when they come to ask my kids to play. I'm just going to take PP's advice and let it be. My kids can still invite school friends over and all this guy has done is alienated his own children.

I realize to him I may seem like I'm not giving enough supervision but I refuse to be a helicopter parent. I am still supervising my kids, the just don't realize I am always watching. Kids need some freedom to develop on their own.

All this said they moved into the neighborhood about 5 months ago and I still have never seen the parents so I doubt that will increase any of I just let things be.

 

[MaxStout]

A friend just turned me on to this group. Might be my new favorite chill music.

 

[Dan]

I'll preface tell you straight. I'm drunk. I don't for more than a moment believe my current state reflects the norm on ,HBT or this thread,,,, just me this Saturday night

Cheers to you all

Dan

 

[lschiavo]

I'll preface tell you straight. I'm drunk. I don't for more than a moment believe my current state reflects the norm on ,HBT or this thread,,,, just me this Saturday night

Cheers to you all

Dan

It happens to the best of us man. I hope you are well today. I have a good buzz on. I have to get up too early for that but what the hell. The world will still spin round.

 

[gillsrob]

Good evening folks it's been a while eh? Like a year or more...

 

[passedpawn]

Good evening folks it's been a while eh? Like a year or more...

How's it going? Hunting?

Hope the late nite crew is doing well. Seems there's less of us now. That's good, early to bed and early to rise is a good plan.

My wife's out of town this week, so I've been burning nag champa in the house. In heaven. She hates it. I think it reminds her of her naughty past. For me, what's past is prologue.

For your late nite soundrack, John Lennon. Nothing's gonna change my world. Peace!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNdRU-5tMfg[/ame]

 

[LabRatBrewer]

That's one of my favorite beatles/Lennon songs PP

 

[Dan]

All

Question

4500 watt hot water heater element

240 vac input

It is only drawing 5.3 amps

Shouldn't it be around upper 18-ish?

Maybe a wiring gauge/ corrosion / bad connection problem or is Ohm wrong?

 

[LabRatBrewer]

All

Question

4500 watt hot water heater element

240 vac input

It is only drawing 5.3 amps

Shouldn't it be around upper 18-ish?

Maybe a wiring gauge/ corrosion / bad connection problem or is Ohm wrong?

I know nothing about this, but google agrees with you. This is from a discuss on on breaker size:

18.75
4,500W/240V = 18.75 x 1.5 = 28A ( next size up rule per 422.11(E) ) 30A breaker is the proper size.

 

[Fedora]

All

Question

4500 watt hot water heater element

240 vac input

It is only drawing 5.3 amps

Shouldn't it be around upper 18-ish?

Maybe a wiring gauge/ corrosion / bad connection problem or is Ohm wrong?

Come on, Dan. Ask TR. They know everything.

Cheers, late nighters. Though it's not that late here.

 

[brewingmeister]

Come on, Dan. Ask TR.

Um..Teddy Roosevelt is dead, bring your smelling salts.

 

[flars]

My foreign language skills are lacking. What is the beer talk about from all the new people?

 

[KIRBREW]

My foreign language skills are lacking. What is the beer talk about from all the new people?

I think they're giving us the recipe for the best beer ever. To bad I learned Spanish in school. I thought they had the spam bots under control now...

 

[Dan]

All







I know nothing about this, but google agrees with you. This is from a discuss on on breaker size:



18.75

4,500W/240V = 18.75 x 1.5 = 28A ( next size up rule per 422.11(E) ) 30A breaker is the proper size.

Thanks Albert!
We came across a water heater under wired....not like the bra. I rewired with a heavier gauge wire (alas it was not an electric brew pot ). Current flow went from low fives up to 17ish. 12 gauge copper wire. Still didn't completely fix the hot water problem, it's solar assisted as well and a cold water mix valve had been plumbed wrong. I'm parroting the plumbing problem because I don't get it all yet.

I'm still learning about solar assisted water heaters

 

[Dan]

Good morning mainland friends. It's 0548 and I'm on the porcelain throne. Just finished breakfast and running late. Gonna spend the next hour and a half in traffic going 20 miles. Yeh paradise.

 

[Dan]

Good morning mainland friends. It's 0548 and I'm on the porcelain throne. Just finished breakfast and running late. Gonna spend the next hour and a half in traffic going 20 miles. Yeh paradise.

You're a depressing arse. I can quote my own stupidity. No?

 

[CGVT]

Relax, Dan.

We all have those days...

 

[brewingmeister]

So Dan you really like hanging out in traffic or what?

 

[Dan]

Halloween. I was suppose to dress up as a superhero, that was the theme. Something amiss

Moses and Bat girl
( me and my oldest daughter)

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My wife and I

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[Dan]

The staff was a piece of rainbow eucalyptus my wife collected from fallen branches last summer. I put some poly on it. Really a beautiful piece of wood don't know what I'll do with it now

 

[brewingmeister]

Use it while you walk the earth and get into adventures.

 

[opus345]

Halloween. I was suppose to dress up as a superhero, that was the theme. Something amiss

Moses and Bat girl
( me and my oldest daughter)

If I hadn't seen the tablets, my guess would have been; Father Time.

 

[opus345]

I'm writing this during the day time, but I was really touched at what my son wrote about the passing of my father this week and wanted to share:

https://www.facebook.com/tevacek/posts/10101076213826293

"Today we laid to rest my grandpa, John T. Rogers. He was technically my “step” grandpa and the only reason why that is important is because he treated me better than most grandpas treat their grandsons. That is why he was simply my grandpa. I have been reflecting about him over the last few days and the lessons and things he has taught me. I came up with three short stories.
1. He was my first employer. I mowed his lawn for years over the hot Nebraska summers. I really enjoyed the time I spent with him in the garage with his loads of tools prepping the mower for use. He always had a few old Toros (most of them older than me) that seemed to work well and get the job done. If something broke down he seemed to have a way to fix it. It was amazing to watch him work and tinker with motors. I did not find out until recently how significant his position in leadership was at Western Electric and then AT&T. He was a great first boss and he paid me well for the work I did even though I would have done the work for free.
2. One weekend my grandparents found a really amazing deal on bulk Legos. When I say bulk, I mean over 2 large trashcans full. They ended up devoting an entire room in their house as the Lego room. As a kid I would spend hours in that room creating armies and cities. He also had a nice arrangement of slot cars and trains that kept me busy. I attribute a lot of my curiosity, wanting to learn, and ability to troubleshoot to those days I spent at his house and with him.
3.He taught me about purchasing vehicles. I took him and my step dad with me to negotiate on my first three cars. One thing I noticed about him was that he always bought used cars even though I knew he could afford a nice new car. Walking into the showroom I had the thought that this sales person did not even have a chance. I listened to how he negotiated and the tactics he used. He was never mean or aggressive but was able to take control of the situation and found a way to get the price he wanted. The first two times he and my step dad did most of the talking and negotiating. The third time we went to go negotiate on a car he sat back and wanted me to do the talking. Between rounds with the salesperson he would whisper advice into my ear. We ended up walking out with the keys that day and I remember him saying “I think you got a good deal”. He was a good teacher and I could always tell he was proud of me.
When I first moved into my own house he gave me one of those old Toros. It ran well for years until it finally gave out. I told him about it and he said that he had another one for me. (I am fairly certain he had another 2-3). I knew he liked me and treated me fairly because he gave me mowers that worked while my step dad was given snow blowers that never seemed work. I think the Toro I have in my garage is the same one I used to mow his lawn and it still runs like a champ.
I want to leave everyone with this. The Lord used the death of Jesus to bring life and hope. I am confident that the God can use any situation, including the death of my grandpa to bring life."

My wife and I would love to take all the credit for instilling in my son these incredible values, but as you can see he had a number of important influences to help guide him. :rockin: