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G. Cretin

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:cross: J/K here is the recipe to ASSHAT coffee chocolate stout
11 lbs A. two row
1 lbs 120L crystal malt
.5 lbs chocolate malt
.5 lbs rolled oats
.25 black patent
.19 roasted barley
Mash on tthe high end around 158F for 90 min. collect 7.5 gallons boil down to 5 gallons. 13.1% AA galena hops @ 60 min 4 oz coffee esspresso roast @ 15 min w/irish moss. I used WL irish ale yeast. 1.5oz bakers chocolate in the clearing tank.

My OG was 1.082 (85% efficency):ban:

Anybody think there is room for improvement in this recipe? I put it together after looking at a ton of other stout recipes, it has been in the primary for 2 days but I'll follow with a report in a few weeks.
 
ye i just started a chocolate brew yesterday too except i put a lot more chocolate and it seems to be not allowing any blow-off; it has created a layer of chocolate it appears. but here is what i did:

1. Ingredients
a. 6.5 Pale 2-row Malt
b. 1 Crystal malt
c. .75 Chocolate malt
d. .25 Roasted barley
e. 1 oz. U.S Perle 7.1% AAU
f. 1 oz. U.S. Fuggle 5.1% AAU
g. 6 oz. Nestle cocoa powder
h. 4 g gypsum
i. 1 g Irish moss
j. Dry English Ale WLP007
2. Mashing
a. 8.5 qt. water 133º 30 min with 2 g Gypsum
b. add 4.5 qt. boiling to mash
c. 158º 45 min
d. raise to 170º and sparge with 7 qt. 170º water with 2 g Gypsum
3. Boiling
a. 60 minutes Perle hops and Cocoa powder
15 minutes Fuggle
 
probably ground with his other grains. ;) They are talking about malted barley that's roasted to a particular degree, not about actual chocolate.
 
Posted below is my extract version that I brewed this past weekend. The major changes I'd make to your recipe:

Instead of adding coffee grounds to the boil, get some coffee malt from AHS, et al. That will give a subtle coffee note. Then, add a pot of brewed (then cooled) drip coffee to the primary fermenter prior to adding the cooled wort. Boiled coffee is not too good.

As you can see, I also added unsweetened baker's chocolate. 8 whole ounces of it. I got the stuff from the store that comes in 1.5" squares. Added the entire box to the boil with 20 mins left. It thickened it up quite a bit, but damn, it smelled delicious.

Depending on how it tastes when I rack it, I might add brewed espresso at bottling.

Strongbadian Imperial Chocolate-Espresso Stout

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
-------------------------------

13-F Stout, Russian Imperial Stout

Min OG: 1.075 Max OG: 1.114
Min IBU: 50 Max IBU: 100
Min Clr: 30 Max Clr: 48 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Extract (Lbs): 13.00
Anticipated OG: 1.092 Plato: 21.92
Anticipated SRM: 51.4
Anticipated IBU: 65.8
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------

Evaporation Rate: 15.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 5.88 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.078 SG 18.85 Plato

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3.8 0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350
7.7 1.00 lbs. Roasted Barley America 1.028 450
3.8 0.50 lbs. Crystal 10L America 1.035 10
61.5 8.00 lbs. Briess LME- Dark America 1.035 23
15.4 2.00 lbs. Generic DME - Light Generic 1.046 8
3.8 0.50 lbs. Brown Sugar Generic 1.046 4
3.8 0.50 lbs. Molasses Generic 1.036 80

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.50 oz. Pacific Gem Whole 13.60 25.2 60 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 26.5 60 min.
0.50 oz. Cascade Whole 5.75 10.7 60 min.
0.50 oz. Saazer Pellet 3.30 3.4 30 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.00 Tsp Gypsum Powder Other 60 Min.(boil)
8.00 Oz Unsweetened Baker's Chocolate Other 20 Min.(boil)
0.25 Tsp Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)
12.00 Cup(s) Brewed Drip Coffee Coffee 21 Days(fermenter)
12.00 Oz Brewed Espresso Coffee 0 Min.(fermenter)


Yeast
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DCL Yeast US-56 Safeale American Ale Yeast


Notes
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-Add 12 cups Brewed drip coffee to primary fermenter

-Add 12oz brewed espresso at bottling (optional)
 
All these recipes look great. I'm looking at making a stout as my next brew...but REALLY unsure if I want to go with chocolate and coffee. I think some chocolate and coffee grains are in my future...
 
Yuri_Rage said:
That's the chocolate I was wondering about...not the malt.
Sorry if this wasn't clear, I mean to say Hersheys coco powder in the secondary.
I said clearing tank to be a little more accurate.
:mug:
 
Evan! said:
Instead of adding coffee grounds to the boil, get some coffee malt from AHS, et al. That will give a subtle coffee note. Then, add a pot of brewed (then cooled) drip coffee to the primary fermenter prior to adding the cooled wort. Boiled coffee is not too good. )
I think that I will try making the coffee before hand next time.
 
G. Cretin said:
Sorry if this wasn't clear, I mean to say Hersheys coco powder in the secondary.
I said clearing tank to be a little more accurate.
:mug:
I'm completely with ya on the secondary vs clearing tank terminology debate, and I prefer clearing tank as well.

Makes sense now that you say cocoa powder as opposed to blocks of chocolate. I guess you could grate baking chocolate really fine, but I bet cocoa powder is a much better choice (less oils/fats).
 
That was my thought. The coco fat (white chocolate would prally make a scum on the surface plus it would make cleaning the used carboy hell.
 
HuOttson said:
Cretin and Evan - did you notice that there was no barm/kraeusen in the fermenter?
I have 1/2" of krausen after 5 days in the primary.
 
I'm at a loss for words this chocolate coffe stout has been in primary for 2 1/2 weeks now and it still has a 1/4 of krausen on it and still bubbles every 4 sec. What should I do? I can't take a hydrometer reading right now it broke. Any ideas?
 
Yuri_Rage said:
RDWHAHB! Must be a nice big beer...bet it'll be good when it's done.
Do you think I should move it or leave it on the yeast? I forgot to mention it's an ale fermenting at quasi lager temps.
 
Ale yeast at too low temp will ferment really slow. It could take months. Ask me how I know.

The only bad thing is the resulting beer seemed to lack the taste that it should have had. It was almost like it was watered down.
 
So last night I finally got to drink a pint of this recipe. Over all I like it but think it needs more hops which brings me to a question. How can I add hop flavor to this beer? Could I boil some hops then add the liquid to the beer and recarbonate? Anybody help a brother out?
 
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