How to become an illegal

[Fingers]

I think emergency Medical care was the wrong term. But my Canukian friends say if its major and you want it done within 48 months you go to USA. If its a transplant your more likely to die. Which istn far off from USA.

True, it would be kind of silly to go to the US if you needed emergency care. The very term implies that immediacy is required and crossing the border and all its attendant delays would likely be lethal. The other wrong term was the word 'proper' when contrasting our health care with yours. In some cases there are delays in getting elective care, but emergency surgery is never withheld and you can bet it's quality work.

 

[homebeerbrewer]

Doesn't appear that you even read the article. The highest tax bracket only applies to income earned ABOVE $120,000. Everything below is taxed at various different rates. It specifically gives the example of $125,000 in income. It's just over 32%. The article also specifically mentions that it's BOTH federal and provincial tax together.

After reading the article, I can now understand why my clients (or maybe "customers" is a better term) were saying that they pay close to 50% of their income in taxes.

If you earned $125,000 you would be in the highest "Marginal Tax Bracket" subject to the highest "Marginal Tax Rate" of 46.41%, but that rate of 46.41% ONLY applies to the income over $120,888.

That may not have been what they were really paying, just that they were in that particular tax bracket. I didn't ask for clarification when one of them said that, I just took their word for it.

One thing that the article didn't mention is deductions. Here in the States, we can deduct home mortgage interest, medical bills, and certain other expenses from our final tax bill. Is there anything like that in Canada?

 

[Fingers]

One thing that the article didn't mention is deductions. Here in the States, we can deduct home mortgage interest, medical bills, and certain other expenses from our final tax bill. Is there anything like that in Canada?

All of the above. We don't have flat taxes either. One of the highest deductions are for political party donations. It's about 75% deductible. Much higher than medical costs or charitable donations.

 

[craigd]

About the original letter I think he misses the point of that legislation entirely. If you offer no path to citizenship then illegals remain so and never pay taxes until they're deported at tax payers expense. The only response I would expect to that letter is that illegals work off the books cash jobs and while its illegal in both cases a US citizen can do that too.

How many illegals here make enough to have to pay taxes regardless of status? They could pay 20 years of back taxes and the total would be the same - $0. In fact, if we then extend the same breaks as some others get we could owe them money! Overall a silly argument, IMO...

 

[Parker36]

There is a path for citizenship. There always has been one some people just don't want to follow. There just looking for a hand out. Let me ask you this. Do you think they would all learn english for you in mexico? Hell no! Its funny I grew up in Cali. and people talked about this problem since I was a kid and no one out east ever cared. Now that it has spread threw out the country you hear more people complain. My guess is most who support this kinda bill don't have illegals in there area yet. Send them home.

Maybe you should learn to speak/write English first before giving other people advice on the language.

 

[McKBrew]

Maybe you should learn to speak/write English first before giving other people advice on the language.

Not nice.

Is it a requirement that you have perfect grammar and syntax in order to debate?

Just flipping you some crap buddy. Or more correctly (I think).

Pardon me fine sir, but I truly do not think that the way a person composes sentence dictation is an accurate assessment of their intelligence.

 

[tedpeer]

Not nice.
Pardon me fine sir, but I truly do not think that the way a person composes sentence dictation is an accurate assessment of their intelligence.

No, It just tells you if they are lazy...

 

[Parker36]

Not nice.

Is it a requirement that you have perfect grammar and syntax in order to debate?

Just flipping you some crap buddy. Or more correctly (I think).

Pardon me fine sir, but I truly do not think that the way a person composes sentence dictation is an accurate assessment of their intelligence.

I would let it fly except he was trying to make an argument about people not learning the language. It is essentially the same as trying to ban homebrewing because you heard it can make you go blind.

How am I supposed to respect the "Mexicans need to learn English" argument (which I agree with, by the way) when it comes from somebody who doesn't even have a handle on the language himself?

 

[david_42]

I know! We can revive the sale of Indulgences. In Congress alone, we could sell hundreds for "Having sex with someone other than my spouse." and charge an extra 10% if the "other" was of the same sex or not a US citizen.

 

[brrman]

I know! We can revive the sale of Indulgences. In Congress alone, we could sell hundreds for "Having sex with someone other than my spouse." and charge an extra 10% if the "other" was of the same sex or not a US citizen.

Now that's something I could get behind! badum-bump!

 

[koomber]

Britain had the same problem with Poles. Except they generally paid thier taxes (We pay taxes and don't have to bribe?) Worked hard as buggery (except 1 girl I knew) and were beyond friendly good people. Most of them even spoke better English than me! But then I'm Scottish

Actually, thats nothing like what you described.....

Damn I wish I knew some Poles up here I miss the guys in Edinburgh.


Nearly forgot, one of the guys (an absolute stellar guy called Gregory) LOVED paying tax. He couldn't believe that you would pay tax and it provided health care, police, road works, etc. WITHOUT having to bribe. I can't imagine how bad Poland must have been at the time for him to be happy about paying British level taxes!


EDIT:
I know nothing about the illegal imigrants in the US, but I'm pretty sure the situation in th UK was slightly different.

 

[Bullshivit-brew]

Hey parker36 I have something you can get a handle on how's that for grammer. Not giving advice just saying this is a english speaking country if you dont like it tuff. If you dont like me well Im not going to loose sleep over it.

 

[olllllo]

Stop posting political content outside of the debate forum.