How long before no light bulbs for bulb heater cans?

[sablesurfer]

This is a thought I have playing through my head. From what I can see there appears to be no 100w and maybe even no 60w in some places. How long before this option is no longer viable?

Yes, I know seed planting mats and reptile heat lamps and other options. But the can and bulb is cheaper than all those and I can do it without waiting on an order to be delivered.

 

[sablesurfer]

Well, looks like this. Damn.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/m...-incandescent-light-bulb-phase-out-2D11805991

The Jan. 1 deadline to end production of 60- and 40-watt incandescent light bulbs is fast approaching, but most Americans aren't even aware that their traditional light sources will soon become a rare commodity, according to one consumer survey.

 

[MaxStout]

Stock up. I bought a case lot of 100W last year and also now have plenty of 60s and 40s. I hate not being "green," but I switched a lot of bulbs to CFL a couple years ago, and ended up replacing almost half of them within a year. They just don't last as long as they claim. I put incandescents back in my unheated garage and porch lights, as CFLs flicker so dimly in cold weather.

I just need enough old-school bulbs to hold me over until economy of scale brings LED lamp prices down to something reasonable. I can wait.

 

[Wynne-R]

. . .exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, plant lights, candelabra lights under 60 watts, outdoor post lights less than 100 watts, nightlights and shatter resistant bulbs.

You guys need to quit watching Fox News. They leave a lot of stuff out.

 

[skitter]

Better than not reporting it at all

 

[b-boy]

This is funny. I saw the report of this on CNN and my first thought was 'Crap, how will people heat their fermentation chambers?'. I think I've been brewing too long.

 

[Doongie]

ended up replacing almost half of them within a year. They just don't last as long as they claim

Quite a few years ago now, mid 2000's, I had a cfl overheat. It started smoking and set off a fire alarm. If I weren't home I fear it would have burnt my house down. I tried to notify UL and CUL, they ignored me, I traced the manuf. name to a dead end in china if I remember right, notified Wal-Mart where it was purchased, nobody gave a $hit, so I quit buying them. I am not pleased having to change from incandescent.

 

[sablesurfer]

You guys need to quit watching Fox News. They leave a lot of stuff out.

Quite an assumption there. My post was first one I found.

Anyway, that list of exceptions doesn't seem to allow for bulbs to meet the need of this post. I looked up outdoor bulbs on HD and all they have are halogens and LEDs.

 

[acidrain]

There are literally dozens of styles of incandescent bulbs available at Home Depot: http://www.homedepot.com/b/N-5yc1v/Ntk-All/Ntt-incandescent+bulbs?browsestoreoption=1

 

[Wrecked]

Rough Service bulbs can still be purchased in all wattages, since they were erroneously left out of the bill ending incandescent bulbs.

 

[day_trippr]

Brewing is totally Rough Service! Score! :rockin:

Alternatively, you can build a ceramic resistor array heater. This one is good for 100 watts and will likely outlive me. I've been using it for (counts fingers) six years and it's still going strong...

Cheers!

 

[ianw58]

Something like this. I got tired of busted filaments and bought this...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002AQCPK/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[estricklin]

Brewing is totally Rough Service! Score! :rockin:

Alternatively, you can build a ceramic resistor array heater. This one is good for 100 watts and will likely outlive me. I've been using it for (counts fingers) six years and it's still going strong...

Cheers!

Very nice.

Still I don't see why you guys don't use CFLs, they still get HOT.

 

[big_len]

Here in the UK incandescent bulbs have been gone for a few years now and you can still purchase a "Heavy Duty" bulb in pretty much every shop ...

 

[skitter]

Very nice.

Still I don't see why you guys don't use CFLs, they still get HOT.

To achieve the same type of heat an incandescent can provide with a cfl would require more power and money vs. using an incandescent based on the nature of florescent being a colder burning bulb.

Why not just use a small 40/60w infrared light bulb like you use in a turtle tank? Those will still be available.

 

[user 163849]

I am not currently using light bulbs for heating anything but, many of the recent incandescent bulbs that I have had experience with fall into the classification of what I like to call "flash bulbs" (very short life). And even though the CFL's claim to last 7 years or longer, I have yet to purchase one that has lasted a full year. I even fell for a dimable LED for a frequently used lamp, it promised 27 years of service. The first time I turned that one on it worked fine, but it refused to come back to life once I turned it off (got about 3 hours use out of that one. Most of the fixtures in my house now have Rough Service bulbs installed as they seem to be the only decent choice for reasonable service life. I do have fluorescent tube lights in my garage and shop and have not had a single fluorescent tube failure in over 7 years.

 

[Grossy]

Quite an assumption there. My post was first one I found.

Anyway, that list of exceptions doesn't seem to allow for bulbs to meet the need of this post. I looked up outdoor bulbs on HD and all they have are halogens and LEDs.

I have always used a refrigerator light bulb, they are designed for freezing temperature, and high temperatures.

This ban will make no difference for me.

 

[sablesurfer]

I have always used a refrigerator light bulb, they are designed for freezing temperature, and high temperatures.

This ban will make no difference for me.

Cool, good to hear. What size is your fermentation chamber and what size frigerator bulb do you use? How often do you notice it having to work to warm up the fermenter?

 

[sablesurfer]

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[LandoLincoln]

Quite a few years ago now, mid 2000's, I had a cfl overheat. It started smoking and set off a fire alarm. If I weren't home I fear it would have burnt my house down. I tried to notify UL and CUL, they ignored me, I traced the manuf. name to a dead end in china if I remember right, notified Wal-Mart where it was purchased, nobody gave a $hit, so I quit buying them. I am not pleased having to change from incandescent.

There's more than two types of bulbs on the market, you know.

 

[Grossy]

Cool, good to hear. What size is your fermentation chamber and what size frigerator bulb do you use? How often do you notice it having to work to warm up the fermenter?

I use a 40 watt appliance light bulb.
I have a full size freezer, it holds 4x 7.5-gallon ale pails.
The light bulb is in a shop light, the kind you use for working under a car, the whole thing is wrapped in aluminum foil. I leave it on all the time, when the freezer heats up, my controller turns on the freezer. Not the most efficient use, but it works. A better controller would solve the problem.

Here is a picture of my IPA, after it exploded in the freezer. (It is the only picture I have readily available.)

 

[gandelf]

You guys need to quit watching Fox News. They leave a lot of stuff out.

+10 Conversion will be encouraged, but not forced. LEDs will come down.

 

[SmokeyMcBong]

i could be wrong but i thought halogen lights put off nearly as much heat as light. couldn't they be used instead? like one of those halogen flood lights?

 

[day_trippr]

i could be wrong but i thought halogen lights put off nearly as much heat as light. couldn't they be used instead? like one of those halogen flood lights?

You're not wrong, halogen bulbs are only slightly more efficient than conventional incandescent bulbs. We have some light fixtures in the house with small 40W halogen lamps and if they've been on for just a minute or so you'd be risking a major ouchie if you tried to remove one without letting it cool down first...

Cheers!

 

[cfrazier77]

You can also use a ceramic reptile bulbs.

 

[timpoulsen]

Go to Amazon.com and buy all you want. I never noticed a shortage either at my local Home Depot, Lowe's or Walmart.

 

[skitter]

Go to Amazon.com and buy all you want. I never noticed a shortage either at my local Home Depot, Lowe's or Walmart.

Home depot said they have a 6 month supply, after that they won't have any left

 

[sablesurfer]

Well I did find the rough duty lightbulbs thanks to this thread. In fact I even found my much needed 100w bulb for the garage work area. No more squinting in CFL light as I try to work on beer projects!!! YAY.

So I am going the light in can heater route to start. Using a 60w rough duty bulb. Should be built so that I can move to a seedling mat wrapped around that can if I need to in the future.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

I'm really not sure why more people don't use these:

Screw-in Infrared Heater Bulbs


They're designed for heating... they last much, much longer than an incandescent, are more efficient and safer.

 

[sablesurfer]

I'm really not sure why more people don't use these:

Screw-in Infrared Heater Bulbs


They're designed for heating... they last much, much longer than an incandescent, are more efficient and safer.

Well, the way I read it (and I would like to have an engineer explain it better) infra red heaters don't heat air. They are electromagnetic radiation that has to hit another object to warm it up. That would mean you would have to point it directly at your carboy.

The reason they work for reptiles is because they actually bask under them, getting warmed up. They don't heat the enclosure as many users ask about on Amazon.

I think anyway, I am an info systems project manager so not an engineer.