How do you pronounce "trub"?

[GHBWNY]

I'd keep a bag of pebbles behind the counter for this. When he asks for the terrified wheat I'd say we are out but still have a little petrified left.

That was torrible.

 

[GHBWNY]

Hijack. And hefe in German is really pronounced hef-eh as in, "I think I'll hefe 'nother."

 

[pepindavid]

Not to sound too anti-'Murican, but that tendency you guys have to pronounce any foreign word like if it was an English word (I call it the anglo-saxon cultural steamroller), man, it gets on my nerves...!

Like how French words like "rendez-vous" or "coup de grâce" become almost unrecognizable when pronounced the English way...!

About the topic at hand, if it's a German word, it's either trub (pronouced "troub"), or trüb (the way the French pronounce the letter "u").

 

[Braumeise]

I was looking up something in The Joy of Homebrewing by Charles Papazian last night and this statement jumped out at me:

"...the sediment is called trub (pronounced 'troob')."

Is that correct?? I've always pronounced it "trubb," as in the "Hubble" Telescope, or the "bubbles" in beer.

Have I been wrong for years?!

if it comes from German "trüb" which makes sense because trüb means cloudy and then there is "Trubstoffe" for stuff that makes other stuff cloudy it is pronounced like troop with a soft b replacing the p.

 

[GrogNerd]

Not to sound too anti-'Murican, but that tendency you guys have to pronounce any foreign word like if it was an English word (I call it the anglo-saxon cultural steamroller), man, it gets on my nerves...!

Like how French words like "rendez-vous" or "coup de grâce" become almost unrecognizable when pronounced the English way...!

About the topic at hand, if it's a German word, it's either trub (pronouced "troub"), or trüb (the way the French pronounce the letter "u").

please tell furriners to pronounce the English words as English words and we will accommodate their language

thank you

 

[Homercidal]

Not to sound too anti-'Murican, but that tendency you guys have to pronounce any foreign word like if it was an English word (I call it the anglo-saxon cultural steamroller), man, it gets on my nerves...!

Like how French words like "rendez-vous" or "coup de grâce" become almost unrecognizable when pronounced the English way...!

About the topic at hand, if it's a German word, it's either trub (pronouced "troub"), or trüb (the way the French pronounce the letter "u").

It's much easier to make foreign sounds sound foreign if they aren't too foreign to you!

Seriously, though, when you aren't exposed to the natural spoken dialect on a regular basis, you have no basis to base your pronunciation on. And not much practice neither.

Worse if you've spent 40 years speaking just one language. Your mouth doesn't give way to change very well.

 

[Braumeise]

How'd you do that?! I tried!

haha... my keybord is german... but my phone gives me the option to use Umlaute ...

â ä ó ê ö üüüüüüü ß

 

[k1ngl1ves]

It's definitely "troob", not "truhb".

Also, wort is "wert", not "wart". Everybody loves to get this one wrong. Think of the words "words" and "work". You wouldn't say "wards" or "wark", right? Same thing with "wort".

Obviously, you've never been to Boston.

 

[GHBWNY]

Obviously, you've never been to Boston.

Except there are no words with 'r' in Boston.

 

[k1ngl1ves]

Except there are no words with 'r' in Boston.

Or any discernible English.

 

[Rhetorik]

It's definitely "troob", not "truhb".

Also, wort is "wert", not "wart". Everybody loves to get this one wrong. Think of the words "words" and "work". You wouldn't say "wards" or "wark", right? Same thing with "wort".

And think of the words "sort" and "fort". You don't say "soort" and "foort"

 

[Jim311]

The pronunciation of basically everything in the English language is absurd to begin with. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go put a bandage over this wart so I don't infect my wort, and I'll wager you a lager that this brew turns out true.

 

[Auger]

trooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob

 

[EDF713]

And think of the words "sort" and "fort". You don't say "soort" and "foort"

Unless you're Canadian.

 

[ThunderKhajiit]

For you old farts... errr.... distinguished elders:

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

And think of the words "sort" and "fort". You don't say "soort" and "foort"

??? did you mean to say "sert" and "fert"?

Because the O is long in sort and fort.

 

[Braumeise]

It's definitely "troob", not "truhb".

Also, wort is "wert", not "wart". Everybody loves to get this one wrong. Think of the words "words" and "work". You wouldn't say "wards" or "wark", right? Same thing with "wort".

I was wondering how to pronounce Wort... it is not German! unless you mean a word which is Wort in German.

German word for Wort (lol now that is actually funny!) is Würze

and yes Hefe is nowhere two f (heffe) and its Hefeweizen unless you are in Munich than it is called Weißbier...
and Hefe is pronounced "Heh Feh"

 

[Braumeise]

Guess I am gonna record a sound file with correct German pronunciation, although the word we are debating isnt a German Word...

as I said Wort means word
Wort in Brewing is called Würze

Trub I have honestly never used in my entier german speaking life unless talking about brewing.
Trubstoff is the more common used Word yet that describes the component which makes a clear liquid cloudy not necessarily the stuff collected on the bottom of your vessel while brewing.

 

[Rhetorik]

??? did you mean to say "sert" and "fert"?

Because the O is long in sort and fort.

Right. I had truhb (not troob) on the mind.

 

[Clonefan94]

Not to sound too anti-'Murican, but that tendency you guys have to pronounce any foreign word like if it was an English word (I call it the anglo-saxon cultural steamroller), man, it gets on my nerves...!

Like how French words like "rendez-vous" or "coup de grâce" become almost unrecognizable when pronounced the English way...!

About the topic at hand, if it's a German word, it's either trub (pronouced "troub"), or trüb (the way the French pronounce the letter "u").

Right, because everyone who speaks a non-English language pronounce all English words perfectly.

 

[stella_tigre]

And think of the words "sort" and "fort". You don't say "soort" and "foort"

Foooooooooooooooooooooort!

 

[pepindavid]

The fun part is that it looks like it has its origins in German words, but that it may actually be an English word (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trub_(brewing)). I was under the assumption that it was a German word.

So... why the pronunciation "troob", if it's not a German word?

 

[pepindavid]

Right, because everyone who speaks a non-English language pronounce all English words perfectly.

No, of course, there's a lot of heavily mispronounced English out there, I'll give you that. Frenchmen (from France), for example, have a terrible habit of using English words everywhere and pronounce them with a strong French accent.

I guess I was ranting about the fact that if you're going to use a word from a different language, basic respect would instruct you to at least try to pronounce it correctly.

 

[Tiber_Brew]

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Edit: I guess both work

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

No, of course, there's a lot of heavily mispronounced English out there, I'll give you that. Frenchmen (from France), for example, have a terrible habit of using English words everywhere and pronounce them with a strong French accent.

I guess I was ranting about the fact that if you're going to use a word from a different language, basic respect would instruct you to at least try to pronounce it correctly.

Meh, does it really matter? All across the globe words are butchered by local phonetics.

Especially since it has been stated that the words everyone is germanizing don't actually have german origins?

I mean, why is it okay to insist wort to be pronounce wert instead of vert? Wouldn't the latter be more phonetically consistent?

 

[Tiber_Brew]

Meh, does it really matter? All across the globe words are butchered by local phonetics.

Especially since it has been stated that the words everyone is germanizing don't actually have german origins?

I mean, why is it okay to insist wort to be pronounce wert instead of vert? Wouldn't the latter be more phonetically consistent?

I thought "wort" was from English origin? Brewing terminology comes from a mix of English and German language.

Edit: I guess it's both

 

[Auger]

And forget pronunciation in different countries....Just take a trip from Boston down to backwoods Alabama...its practically a different language.

 

[kh54s10]

No, of course, there's a lot of heavily mispronounced English out there, I'll give you that. Frenchmen (from France), for example, have a terrible habit of using English words everywhere and pronounce them with a strong French accent.

I guess I was ranting about the fact that if you're going to use a word from a different language, basic respect would instruct you to at least try to pronounce it correctly.

I would be willing to say a Frenchman who has lived all his life in France, speaking French would have a hard time understanding a person speaking French who is from Quebec......

I have to deal with foreigners almost every workday. It is extremely difficult to understand a lot of them.... Just their pronunciation of English words.

I also often have difficulty understanding British, South Africans, Australians and New Zealanders among others..........

 

[pepindavid]

Meh, does it really matter? All across the globe words are butchered by local phonetics.

Probably because I'm from a "linguistic minority" (French Québécois, to be precise...), but it matters to me. I think that trying to respect cultural differences (including specifics of language) is a minimum, in a globalized world where the "language of the empire" tends to overtake everything (mind you, I'm not saying that this "language of the empire" is evil, or that it shouldn't be learned; it's what allows me to have discussion with people all over the world).

Now, if the word we're trying to pronounce the German way is not actually a German word, and we're trying to "germanicize" it to sound more "knowledgeable about beer", then that's silly...

 

[kh54s10]

Oh and I pronounce trub - gunk like in bunk or dunk..........