Honey Blonde Ale Hop ??

[Mike COusineau]

Honey Blonde Ale 5.38% ABV


Grain:

8.5 lb American - Pale 2-Row
1.5 lb Canadian - Honey Malt
.5 lb Flaked Oats


Hops

.5 oz Liberty 60 min
.5 oz Willamette 60 min
.5 oz Liberty 0 min
.5 oz Willamette 0 min


Yeast
Wyeast - American Ale 1056


I made this recipe about a month ago and it turned out pretty well. The Wife enjoyed it but I am looking to add some more flavor to the beer. I did not want to add bitterness so I was thinking of going with Cascade at 0 min. So my local brew shop recommended 1oz of Cascade at flame out. Is this going to alter the taste dramatically or should I just go with .5oz of Cascade at flame out?


TIA.
Brew on

Mike

 

[IslandLizard]

Flameout hops still lean quite some extra bittering, more so the longer it takes to get the wort down to 150-140F.

For more hop flavor do a 15-30' "hopstand" (aka whirlpool hops) after chilling to around 150F. Then resume chilling down to pitch temps. Bittering is almost non-existent at 150F and below.
During the hopstand stir every 3-5 minutes to resuspend them, allowing for better extraction.

Or do a dry hop. That gives you more aroma too.

 

[IslandLizard]

That said, you could move all your 0-minute (flameout) hops to the whirlpool/hopstand. Add them at say 170F for 10' (gives you some bittering too) then lower to 150F and leave an additional 10-20'.

 

[Mike COusineau]

Flameout hops still lean quite some extra bittering, more so the longer it takes to get the wort down to 150-140F.

For more hop flavor do a for 15-30' "hopstand" (aka whirlpool hops) after chilling to around 150F. Then resume chilling down to pitch temps. Bittering is almost non-existent at 150F and below.
During the hopstand stir every 3-5 minutes to resuspend them, allowing for better extraction.

Or do a dry hop. That gives you more aroma too.

When you say leave an additional 10-20', you referring to 10-20 minutes after once the wort hits 150?

 

[IslandLizard]

When you say leave an additional 10-20', you referring to 10-20 minutes after once the wort hits 150?

Yes.

 

[Mike COusineau]

Thanks a lot!!!!

 

[LittleRiver]

I'm working through a keg of a somewhat similar beer right now. In addition to base malt I used a half pound of Honey Malt, a half pound of C60, with 1oz Cascade for 60min (boil) and 1oz for 15min at 160F.

I like Cascade, but initially the beer was more grapefruity than I had hoped for (a little bit of grapefruit goes a long way with me). After a few weeks it has balanced out, and is more pleasant to me than it was initially. Next time I will use less Cascade, or use other hops for the boil.

So to answer your question, I think the suggestion to try 1oz Cascade at flameout is a good one. If you're cautious about too much grapefruit character, try using half an ounce.

 

[Mike COusineau]

I'm working through a keg of a somewhat similar beer right now. In addition to base malt I used a half pound of Honey Malt, a half pound of C60, with 1oz Cascade for 60min (boil) and 1oz for 15min at 160F.

I like Cascade, but initially the beer was more grapefruity than I had hoped for (a little bit of grapefruit goes a long way with me). After a few weeks it has balanced out, and is more pleasant to me than it was initially. Next time I will use less Cascade, or use other hops for the boil.

So to answer your question, I think the suggestion to try 1oz Cascade at flameout is a good one. If you're cautious about too much grapefruit character, try using half an ounce.

Good stuff. Yea with you saying this, I think i am going to do .5oz at around 170f